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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jan 25, 2024 16:03:12 GMT -5
We don't know it was even as much as that. I'm sure they all knew Vince was screwing around etc. but that doesn't mean they didnt think it was consensual and the NDAs were just cos of money and Linda. We may find out differently, and certainly Johnny Ace seems to have know, but not beyond that as yet. Yeah there’s a lot of jumping to conclusions to pin more blame on other people it seems, rather than honing in on what we know to be true so far, and just hoping it is looked into further to see the extent of what others knew. I wish the mods would put the kibosh on it too since quite frankly, this insistence on accusing people with no evidence is flat out wrong |
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 25, 2024 16:03:21 GMT -5
vince mcmahon is going to prison
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Post by Mecca on Jan 25, 2024 16:03:53 GMT -5
vince mcmahon is going to prison He's rich so no he won't, that's American justice. |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 25, 2024 16:05:03 GMT -5
Atrocious. I feel so bad for his victims. Most likely thinking putting up with it would make their lives better through money or fame. Only to just be some gross old man’s play things.
I’m supposed to watch the Rumble with friends. It’s none of the wrestlers fault, but WWE is so intrinsically linked to Vince, I’m considering not going. It’s just revolting stuff here.
I get why people don’t, and I’d never pressure them to, but I’d love to hear people like Maria or Eric Young who clearly hate Vince, be able to openly talk and give details. Fry this old mother f***er even more. Look into what happened to Ashley. It’s just all so sad, and a story that repeats because money makes men feel like gods, and sadly our society largely lets them off the hook. I hope this time he gets what’s coming.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 25, 2024 16:05:15 GMT -5
Yeah there’s a lot of jumping to conclusions to pin more blame on other people it seems, rather than honing in on what we know to be true so far, and just hoping it is looked into further to see the extent of what others knew. I wish the mods would put the kibosh on it too since quite frankly, this insistence on accusing people with no evidence is flat out wrong Its nowhere near the mods to decide that, no one is even accusing then of anything illegal. Its completely normal to assume people that have a history of backing up and even covering for scummy people, would know of a man that has been exploiting women for decades while sharing with other executives and people in the crew. |
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 25, 2024 16:05:48 GMT -5
The thing with higher ups in WWE comes down to a very strong likelihood that even those that didn't have specific information about this stuff also knew not to ask certain questions about Vince in general. Plausible deniability from lack of inquiry is depressingly common in shady companies, and WWE is no exception.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 25, 2024 16:06:49 GMT -5
A conversation about who knew what was going on is pretty normal for something like this, not just in wrestling any company scandal would involve wow who knew about this.
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Post by Stu on Jan 25, 2024 16:07:56 GMT -5
I don't disagree some people had to have known. But to a small extent, I will play devil's advocate and say taking action is easier said than done when you're part of a huge company. You can't just call the cops and report Vince's behavior without huge ramifications, whether direct retaliation from McMahon or forcing the closure of the company and putting a lot of people out of work.
All that said, let's hold off on pointing fingers until we know stuff and why it all happened.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 25, 2024 16:08:19 GMT -5
To put in perspective, from my only experience with things like this.
I worked with politicians(I am a game programmer but I did game for kids and teaching things like recycling,etc) and I have heard of people talking about how governors would take 16 Year old boys to the Sauna. Shit is disgusting and runs deep.Worst part is knowing I couldnt do shit, but the people talking spoke like it was no big deal.
I couldnt know who the boy was, or even where, or even had anyone to tell, but the people talking knew more, people at the top trickle down information.Its a reverse snowball.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Jan 25, 2024 16:08:44 GMT -5
I wish the mods would put the kibosh on it too since quite frankly, this insistence on accusing people with no evidence is flat out wrong Its nowhere near the mods to decide that, no one is even accusing then of anything illegal. Its completely normal to assume people that have a history of backing up and even covering for scummy people, would know of a man that has been exploiting women for decades while sharing with other executives and people in the crew. Yeah, if we're going to split hairs on that, then we may as well shut down the entire thread because all we're discussing is a Civil Complaint with allegations against Vince McMahon which he is certain to deny in his Answer, and for which he has not yet been held liable in a court of law. But, like, where there's smoke, there's fire...and we, the Court of Public Opinion, are going to discuss that fire. It's the whole point of a discussion forum. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 25, 2024 16:09:24 GMT -5
Well this is a hell of a thing to wake up to. Wow.
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Post by Legion on Jan 25, 2024 16:09:44 GMT -5
The thing with higher ups in WWE comes down to a very strong likelihood that even those that didn't have specific information about this stuff also knew not to ask certain questions about Vince in general. Plausible deniability from lack of inquiry is depressingly common in shady companies, and WWE is no exception. And ultimately, the company pays your bills. You dont have a vested interest in bringing it down, and while Vince was untouchable, you arent risking yourself for rumours and innuendo, even if you know if you dig, it'll likely be true. Once TKO axe him...who knows who might sell him out to save themselves... |
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Post by XIII on Jan 25, 2024 16:10:08 GMT -5
If Vince was sharing photos, pimping this poor girl out to people, and had a goddamn groupchat talking about it, there’s little chance that anyone in the upper level at Titan Towers didn’t know…and if some top wrestlers were involved I’m sure that there were rumors even among the talent. People that think they’re untouchable say a lot of dumb shit that they shouldn’t be saying.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 25, 2024 16:10:28 GMT -5
vince mcmahon is going to prison He's rich so no he won't, that's American justice. As much as he deserves to be in GenPop, having Thorbjorn von Ragnarvald (birth name : Jerry Miller) and Big Bubba taking turns pooping on his head every day for the rest of his life, it won't happen. |
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Post by drougfree on Jan 25, 2024 16:10:51 GMT -5
 Vince is a extremely weird dude |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 25, 2024 16:11:02 GMT -5
I just feel compelled to say that if there's anyone in this forum reading this thread right now that has experienced any sort of sexual assault or misconduct, I hope you're doing OK given everything coming out. You matter and you are cared about.
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Post by markymark on Jan 25, 2024 16:11:52 GMT -5
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jan 25, 2024 16:14:04 GMT -5
I just feel compelled to say that if there's anyone in this forum reading this thread right now that has experienced any sort of sexual assault or misconduct, I hope you're doing OK given everything coming out. You matter and you are cared about. doesn't really feel like it right now with how that last page went |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 25, 2024 16:15:58 GMT -5
I just feel compelled to say that if there's anyone in this forum reading this thread right now that has experienced any sort of sexual assault or misconduct, I hope you're doing OK given everything coming out. You matter and you are cared about. No, not really. Not at all. |
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Post by Killah Ray on Jan 25, 2024 16:16:12 GMT -5
vince mcmahon is going to prison I wish but I doubt it… |
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