Vince S.A. Lawsuit Thread (Vince Resigns Page 60)

[Feargus McReddit]

Sept 24, 2024 15:54:43 GMT -5 markymark said:

Not surprised thats the approach they are going with, "Vince is gone therefore WWE is the promised land"

Which I've found absolutely weird to try and hype. Regardless of the creative for the last decade, WWE's made more money at that time at any other point than right now. Yes, a lot of that is because of TV and streaming deals but, to put it bluntly, WWE right now is profiting largely because of that stuff. It's been that way since at least the mid 10s if not earlier. One of the big reasons Wall Street loved the guy so much was because he was a profit machine, making deals that made more money. The reason they were happy he was gone was because he was basically messing with shareholders money which is pretty much the biggest faux pa you could do for some reason.

Like, people like the product more and most of the time they're able to sell a lot of tickets but let's not act like the last couple of decade of WWE was 1995 and they could die at any second.

[The Ichi]

Yeah, I'm not surprised it's bigging up Triple H's WWE. That was probably the agreement. "We'll let you not pull any punches about Vince, but you have to tell everyone we're good boys and girls now!".

I don't mind though as long as it does what it's set out to do.

[ben:friendship frog]

Sept 24, 2024 17:59:16 GMT -5 The Ichi said:

Yeah, I'm not surprised it's bigging up Triple H's WWE. That was probably the agreement. "We'll let you not pull any punches about Vince, but you have to tell everyone we're good boys and girls now!".

I don't mind though as long as it does what it's set out to do.

The fact it's on Netflix too. They're not paying 5 Billion Dollars to a company and then putting out a documentary to tell everyone how f***ing awful it is. 😂

[Final Countdown Jones]

On one hand, I do think it's kind of a softball if they uncritically run the idea of "Vince was unilaterally the only problem, now nobody will ever be raped again". On the other, Vince f***ed with his own family to get back into power, so the company now helmed by his son in law turning around to burn him to a crisp. I'm critical of how Vince warped history to try and erase his father and grandfather's legacies solely to big up his own, and him trying to wrest the company from his own daughter's hands was all the more insane. Seeing him destroy that legacy and be sold out by them does hold some poetic justice because of that. He's a man who has always had control and always been able to drag people into doing what he wants, to whom the narrative has always bent because he owned the narrative and abused everyone under him; having him stripped of power and insulted by the company he poured everything in to is far short of what he deserves, but that is beyond the scope of a documentary, so I'll take it.

[Allie Kitsune]

Sept 24, 2024 18:23:32 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

On one hand, I do think it's kind of a softball if they uncritically run the idea of "Vince was unilaterally the only problem, now nobody will ever be raped again". On the other, Vince f***ed with his own family to get back into power, so the company now helmed by his son in law turning around to burn him to a crisp. I'm critical of how Vince warped history to try and erase his father and grandfather's legacies solely to big up his own, and him trying to wrest the company from his own daughter's hands was all the more insane. Seeing him destroy that legacy and be sold out by them does hold some poetic justice because of that. He's a man who has always had control and always been able to drag people into doing what he wants, to whom the narrative has always bent because he owned the narrative and abused everyone under him; having him stripped of power and insulted by the company he poured everything in to is far short of what he deserves, but that is beyond the scope of a documentary, so I'll take it.

HHH is by no means a saint, or even a particularly good person, but if it takes a lesser bastard to shovel the dirt on a bigger bastard's coffin, so be it for now.

Though part of me still hopes that HHH eventually graps the full gravity of the opportunity he's been given here, and makes a larger effort to clean up WWE's culture.

I don't EXPECT it, heck, I have overwhelming doubts that it'll ever happen (seeing as how hard he went to the mat for Patrick Clark, and still pays lip service to Brock)...

...I just want to stop feeling like watching this company is an act of evil, damn it.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

Sept 24, 2024 18:23:32 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

On one hand, I do think it's kind of a softball if they uncritically run the idea of "Vince was unilaterally the only problem, now nobody will ever be raped again". On the other, Vince f***ed with his own family to get back into power, so the company now helmed by his son in law turning around to burn him to a crisp. I'm critical of how Vince warped history to try and erase his father and grandfather's legacies solely to big up his own, and him trying to wrest the company from his own daughter's hands was all the more insane. Seeing him destroy that legacy and be sold out by them does hold some poetic justice because of that. He's a man who has always had control and always been able to drag people into doing what he wants, to whom the narrative has always bent because he owned the narrative and abused everyone under him; having him stripped of power and insulted by the company he poured everything in to is far short of what he deserves, but that is beyond the scope of a documentary, so I'll take it.

Sure hope alienating his entire family for money when he's nearing the end of his life and won't be able to spend it all was worth it.

[polarbearpete]

Sept 24, 2024 17:59:16 GMT -5 The Ichi said:

Yeah, I'm not surprised it's bigging up Triple H's WWE. That was probably the agreement. "We'll let you not pull any punches about Vince, but you have to tell everyone we're good boys and girls now!".

I don't mind though as long as it does what it's set out to do.

The agreement and almost all of the interviews were done before Vince’s exit from the company.

I read there will be disclaimers about when the interviews took place too so that some of the people praising Vince don’t come off as bad as the interviews were pre July 2022.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Sept 24, 2024 18:12:25 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

Sept 24, 2024 17:59:16 GMT -5 The Ichi said:

Yeah, I'm not surprised it's bigging up Triple H's WWE. That was probably the agreement. "We'll let you not pull any punches about Vince, but you have to tell everyone we're good boys and girls now!".

I don't mind though as long as it does what it's set out to do.

The fact it's on Netflix too. They're not paying 5 Billion Dollars to a company and then putting out a documentary to tell everyone how f***ing awful it is. 😂

Yeah, "WWE IS A TERRIBLE f***ING PLACE AND ROTTEN TO IT'S CORE!" Be sure to tune in every week for Monday Night Raw! is pretty incongruous.

[cosmo]

I don't know why, but I have this weird feeling that after this, I'm gonna miss the days when wrestling documentaries on Netflix just had one wrestler smoking a whole bunch of weed in the parking lot before all of her matches and the promotion's co-owner having a seizure.

[bearned]

Can’t say I’m surprised they are probably going to torch Vince and paint modern day WWE as some super slick modern workplace nirvana. Which to be fair it probably is in comparison to the Vince days.

[The Heartbreak TWERK]

Sept 24, 2024 22:39:14 GMT -5 bearned said:

Can’t say I’m surprised they are probably going to torch Vince and paint modern day WWE as some super slick modern workplace nirvana. Which to be fair it probably is in comparison to the Vince days.

That said, I will enjoy his social flogging.

[Clutchhausen]

The documentary is live now on Netflix.

[yokohamacpfc]

Six episodes each one just under/over an hour. I will probably watch the first one when I get home from work in an hour or so but I doubt I’ll binge it (unless there’s some real bombshells dropped which I doubt).

[cornettesracket]

I just looked at the episode titled and the first one is named “junior” which I love because it’s reported that Vince hates that Knickname and only some people could call him that. Haha oh Netflix are taking little digs at Vince. I love it.

[DiBiase is Good]

You know what, yes, Vince Jr is a piece of shit and nothing’s gonna change that but it’s still quite sweet to hear him talk about his father with such affection.

[Ryushinku]

Also note that Vince Sr backed Vince's aggression against the territories.

I know in some corners out there, for decades, the stance was that Vince Sr would've always played nice and all the promoters would've worked together in some kind of pro wrestling utopia if it wasn't for Vince.

Nope. It was always a nest of snakes, almost all of them would've been happy to stab the others in the back given the same chance, and eventually there would've always been someone that fought their way to crush the others and come out on top.

[hitman777]

I'm working from home today so currently binging this. There's been a few whoppers from Ol' Terry already.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Sept 25, 2024 4:00:29 GMT -5 Ryushinku said:

Also note that Vince Sr backed Vince's aggression against the territories.

I know in some corners out there, for decades, the stance was that Vince Sr would've always played nice and all the promoters would've worked together in some kind of pro wrestling utopia if it wasn't for Vince.

Nope. It was always a nest of snakes, almost all of them would've been happy to stab the others in the back given the same chance, and eventually there would've always been someone that fought their way to crush the others and come out on top.

Yeah, there's a lot that you can attack Vince on, but when it comes to this, he was just the one that was successful. It was gonna happen in that world full of carnies, Vince was just the guy that accomplished it. Vince went all in on syndication, Coliseum Video, and getting Hogan.

[khali]

Sept 24, 2024 18:48:02 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

Sept 24, 2024 18:23:32 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

On one hand, I do think it's kind of a softball if they uncritically run the idea of "Vince was unilaterally the only problem, now nobody will ever be raped again". On the other, Vince f***ed with his own family to get back into power, so the company now helmed by his son in law turning around to burn him to a crisp. I'm critical of how Vince warped history to try and erase his father and grandfather's legacies solely to big up his own, and him trying to wrest the company from his own daughter's hands was all the more insane. Seeing him destroy that legacy and be sold out by them does hold some poetic justice because of that. He's a man who has always had control and always been able to drag people into doing what he wants, to whom the narrative has always bent because he owned the narrative and abused everyone under him; having him stripped of power and insulted by the company he poured everything in to is far short of what he deserves, but that is beyond the scope of a documentary, so I'll take it.

Sure hope alienating his entire family for money when he's nearing the end of his life and won't be able to spend it all was worth it.

Let’s not forget that when Stephanie originally left, the Vince camp put out that story about how terrible she was at running the company.

We’ll never get this, but what I’d really love to know is the real story of what Triple H and Stephanie were thinking as Vince tried to make one last power grab behind the scenes. His last official acts were torching his own family just to get his company back. I think that sums up Vince pretty well.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Sept 25, 2024 6:42:44 GMT -5 khali said:

Sept 24, 2024 18:48:02 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

Sure hope alienating his entire family for money when he's nearing the end of his life and won't be able to spend it all was worth it.

Let’s not forget that when Stephanie originally left, the Vince camp put out that story about how terrible she was at running the company.

We’ll never get this, but what I’d really love to know is the real story of what Triple H and Stephanie were thinking as Vince tried to make one last power grab behind the scenes. His last official acts were torching his own family just to get his company back. I think that sums up Vince pretty well.

One wrestling conspiracy I 100% believe is that Steph and Hunter were the ones that leaked about Vince's NDA's. Vince forced Hunter out after his health scare, and tried to tear down everything Hunter built. That shit is gonna tear people apart, and leave a huge impact. They knew what Vince would do to them, so they said "f*** it, these NDA's aren't gonna be a secret anymore."