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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 29, 2024 19:09:25 GMT -5
I am actually more excited for the women's roster moving forward in 2024.
This roster from top to bottom is absolutely stacked.
First you start with the injuries:
Charlotte Flair: Out 9 months with knee from early December 2023 Cora Jade: Out with knee from mid January 2024 Dakota Kai: Out with knee from mid May 2023 Sol Ruca: Out with knee from late April 2023 Sonya Deville: Out with knee from late July 2023
Raw:
Becky Lynch Candice LeRae Chelsea Green Indi Hartwell Ivy Nile Katana Chance Kayden Carter Liv Morgan Maxxine Dupri (of Alpha Academy) Natalya Nia Jax Nikki Cross Piper Niven Raquel Rodriguez -- INACTIVE Rhea Ripley (of Judgment Day) - World Women's Champion Shayna Baszler Tegan Nox Valhalla (of Viking Raiders) Xia Li Zoey Stark
Smackdown:
Alba Fyre (of Alba & Isla) Asuka (of Damage CTRL & Kabuki Warriors) (WWE Women's Tag Team Champion) B-Fab Bayley (of Damage CTRL) Bianca Belair Isla Dawn (of Alba & Isla) IYO SKY (of Damage CTRL) - WWE Women's Champion Kairi Sane ( of Damage CTRL & Kabuki Warriors) (WWE Women's Tag Team Champion) Katana Chance (of Katana Chance & Kayden Carter) Kayden Carter (of Katana Chance & Kayden Carter) Michin (of The OC) Scarlett (of Testament) Shotzi Tamina -- INACTIVE Zelina Vega (of Latino World Order)
Undetermined:
Alexa Bliss Carmella Jade Cargill Naomi
NXT:
Amari Miller Arianna Grace Blair Davenport Cora Jade Elektra Lopez Fallon Henley Gigi Dolin Jacy Jayne Jakara Jackson Karmen Petrovic Kelani Jordan Kiana James Lash Legend Lola Vice Lyra Valkyria - NXT Women's Champion Meiko Satomura Nikkita Lyons Roxanne Perez Sol Ruca Tatum Paxley Tiffany Stratton Valentina Feroz Wendy Choo
There is definitely enough talent for the women to have a PLE for themselves. And even if there was a weekly television show on the network if they must, that can work too. The NXT women get featured pretty well, we just need the main roster to be as prominently featured as well.
I am loving both the current main roster as well as the future superstars of NXT once they get called up too.
We are looking good right now!
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 29, 2024 19:32:11 GMT -5
I would be fine with them having their own brand. Only if Shawn had the book though as he's really done a great job with the NXT women. Can't say the same for the main roster though. Especially Smackdown. I'm so pissed that they've ruined the Witches.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Jan 29, 2024 19:34:23 GMT -5
It sucks that only like 10 of them are consistently over on the main roster, but it is what it is. I like almost all of them and it's my opinion that matters!
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 29, 2024 19:36:06 GMT -5
It sucks that only like 10 of them are consistently over on the main roster, but it is what it is. I like almost all of them and it's my opinion that matters! We need to find a way where Triple H is not allowed to book the women on the main roster. Give Shawn the duties of booking all the women in WWE. Raw, Smackdown and NXT.
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Post by john84 on Jan 29, 2024 19:36:31 GMT -5
It sucks that only like 10 of them are consistently over on the main roster, but it is what it is. I like almost all of them and it's my opinion that matters! Seconded. Also, as ThankGodforSidJustice said, I'd be fine with them having their own brand also. Won't happen but I wouldn't be against it due to the amount of talent between them.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 29, 2024 19:38:02 GMT -5
It sucks that only like 10 of them are consistently over on the main roster, but it is what it is. I like almost all of them and it's my opinion that matters! Seconded. Also, as ThankGodforSidJustice said, I'd be fine with them having their own brand also. Won't happen but I wouldn't be against it due to the amount of talent between them. Their own brand has some amazing initials I last heard. Women's Wrestling Entertainment
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jan 29, 2024 19:39:14 GMT -5
Yeah their own brand would be a wise move because there's just so many great wrestlers right now. That isn't even including the women that I think could get massively over but are being booked super poorly on SD/Raw. Yes, even Tegan.
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Post by dex on Jan 29, 2024 19:44:25 GMT -5
If the roster is so talented why is the average match quality pretty low? Why was a good chunk of the royal rumble so sloppy?
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Post by clc on Jan 29, 2024 19:45:19 GMT -5
I'd like the Mae Young Classic to come back. The Evolution PLE too.
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Post by john84 on Jan 29, 2024 19:53:36 GMT -5
I'd like the Mae Young Classic to come back. The Evolution PLE too. I LOVED the Mae Young Classic. Hoping it comes back sooner rather than later.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 29, 2024 19:55:11 GMT -5
They need to showcase them more, the Rumble showcased how many of them just aren't over, and they SHOULD be over, they're talented, but it's about eliminating a stigma WWE's had since the Womens' Revolution that only like four girls matter at a time between two brands.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 29, 2024 19:56:14 GMT -5
It’s weird hhh is so “bad” with the women’s roster on main roster, when he was also behind the black and gold nxt women’s booking
Maybe they need a completely separate person handling just the women in general. Got too much to deal with across 5 hours a week of booking
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Post by XIII on Jan 29, 2024 20:05:55 GMT -5
A women’s only show is the way to go at this point. Keep them on Raw and SD and then have another show that is a combined roster. Have Tyson Kidd and Natalya book it with HBK overseeing the entire thing. Also a lot of them need new theme music but that’s a WWE wide problem-I didn’t know who was coming out 90% of the time at the Rumble.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 30, 2024 5:37:40 GMT -5
I was sad when Evolution 2018 never got a follow-up.
Though I also did later see the counter-argument, about not wanting to segregate the women away from the men (and vice versa).
Raw and Smackdown just being sausage-fests in turn would be dull. Agreed you'd still want the women to appear on any of the shows.
Given the size of both the women's and the men's rosters right now, kinda feels like they need an extra show period.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 30, 2024 5:49:55 GMT -5
Given the size of both the women's and the men's rosters right now, kinda feels like they need an extra show period. I think they need re-evaluate their strategy (or lack thereof) for b-shows taped before RAW and SmackDown. As it stands, there's Main Event taped before RAW, but that's mostly being used to get NXT talents reps in front of arena crowds. SmackDown has nothing, and has HAD nothing since 2016 when their time was allocated to 205 Live and then it was never replaced when that show got reassigned to being the b-show for NXT (eventually becoming Level Up). And that's why a lot of the midcard of the women's division on SmackDown like the Unholy Union, Michin, Zelina Vega and Shotzi can disappear for weeks or even months at a time without ANY matches (let alone male lower carders like Cameron Grimes, Ashante Adonis and Cedric Alexander). Like, even if they're just aired on YouTube, at least SOMEBODY will see them, see their favourites working matches, even winning them sometimes.
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Post by Totorob101 on Jan 30, 2024 5:55:10 GMT -5
The Heel side of the division is so good. People love Damage Control, they Love Rhea, they love Chelsea Green and her antics with piper, Nia Jax seems to be getting popular, they love Cora Jade etc. The babyface side is so bad bar Becky and Bianca which is full of losers (Candice, Indi, Tegan ect), no characters and unlikeable people (Shayna, Zoey etc) that its hard to call it the perfect roster. The talent is there but man they need to turn a bunch of women heel to give them some kind of characters and edge (katana chance and Kayden carter, Tegan, Roxanne Perez, Indi and Candice etc) because the heels are pretty much dominating the titles now for good reason, they are not just entertaining but they are strong and dont cater to the fans. The "good" guy and girl persona doesnt cut it any more. More heel turns means more characters mean for a better roster.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 30, 2024 6:09:48 GMT -5
Given the size of both the women's and the men's rosters right now, kinda feels like they need an extra show period. I think they need re-evaluate their strategy (or lack thereof) for b-shows taped before RAW and SmackDown. As it stands, there's Main Event taped before RAW, but that's mostly being used to get NXT talents reps in front of arena crowds. SmackDown has nothing, and has HAD nothing since 2016 when their time was allocated to 205 Live and then it was never replaced when that show got reassigned to being the b-show for NXT (eventually becoming Level Up). And that's why a lot of the midcard of the women's division on SmackDown like the Unholy Union, Michin, Zelina Vega and Shotzi can disappear for weeks or even months at a time without ANY matches (let alone male lower carders like Cameron Grimes, Ashante Adonis and Cedric Alexander). Like, even if they're just aired on YouTube, at least SOMEBODY will see them, see their favourites working matches, even winning them sometimes. I don't understand why they don't just do the Main Event tapings like how they taped Superstars in the late 2000's and early 2010's. Tape a match or two before Raw and then tape a match or two before Smackdown and then air everything on one show. That way everyone from both brands can get enough reps and at least some opportunities to work and pick up wins. As it is and has been for a while now if you're on Smackdown and aren't one of the top five guys or girls you're pretty much screwed since there isn't ever going to be enough TV time and you're just going to be off TV a lot other then popping up here and there to do a job for said top five guys or girls.
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Post by callmekc on Jan 30, 2024 6:22:07 GMT -5
It’s weird hhh is so “bad” with the women’s roster on main roster, when he was also behind the black and gold nxt women’s booking Maybe they need a completely separate person handling just the women in general. Got too much to deal with across 5 hours a week of booking He kind of wasn't. He had some unf***upable talents in the four horsewomen at the time when AJ Lee was bringing attention to the women and was able to continue that momentum.
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Post by stevescorpio on Jan 30, 2024 6:33:54 GMT -5
You know the women's roster is stacked when you forget Thea Hail, Adrianna Rizzo and Jaida Parker.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 31, 2024 6:56:28 GMT -5
Yeah, written all out like that, it's amazing just how much talent there is not just in total but on each show.
Bit of a far cry from the days where you were looking for Terri or The Kat to fill out a six-woman tag.
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