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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 31, 2024 8:54:30 GMT -5
It’s weird hhh is so “bad” with the women’s roster on main roster, when he was also behind the black and gold nxt women’s booking Maybe they need a completely separate person handling just the women in general. Got too much to deal with across 5 hours a week of booking At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, in both AEW and WWE there is a direct correlation between 'this show doesn't matter as much' and 'put more women on it and give them time', unfortunately
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 31, 2024 9:00:29 GMT -5
It’s weird hhh is so “bad” with the women’s roster on main roster, when he was also behind the black and gold nxt women’s booking Maybe they need a completely separate person handling just the women in general. Got too much to deal with across 5 hours a week of booking He kind of wasn't. He had some unf***upable talents in the four horsewomen at the time when AJ Lee was bringing attention to the women and was able to continue that momentum. Sure, but it wasn't JUST the Horsewomen and Asuka. Emma was given meaningful things to do (even if those things were "Establish Asuka as a killer"), Athena (Ember Moon) was given meaningful things to do, Nikki Cross was actually fun to watch (as part of SANi+Y), Alexa started to come into her own once she aligned with Blake & Murphy, Blue Pants got over in the appearances that she made...
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Post by schma on Jan 31, 2024 13:26:59 GMT -5
If there's one thing we can take from this list, it's get the women some damn knee pads!
But seriously, I've been a big proponent of the women's roster for a long time. They frequently surpass expectations (yes there are some who are rough, but many of them are fantastic talents). That said, those who aren't actively on raw or smackdown need to be used in some way to keep away from the ring rust.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 31, 2024 19:05:50 GMT -5
Given the size of both the women's and the men's rosters right now, kinda feels like they need an extra show period. I think they need re-evaluate their strategy (or lack thereof) for b-shows taped before RAW and SmackDown. As it stands, there's Main Event taped before RAW, but that's mostly being used to get NXT talents reps in front of arena crowds. SmackDown has nothing, and has HAD nothing since 2016 when their time was allocated to 205 Live and then it was never replaced when that show got reassigned to being the b-show for NXT (eventually becoming Level Up). And that's why a lot of the midcard of the women's division on SmackDown like the Unholy Union, Michin, Zelina Vega and Shotzi can disappear for weeks or even months at a time without ANY matches (let alone male lower carders like Cameron Grimes, Ashante Adonis and Cedric Alexander). Like, even if they're just aired on YouTube, at least SOMEBODY will see them, see their favourites working matches, even winning them sometimes. I've wanted something like this for years. Just a show on YouTube with even something like 3 matches per week would be enough.
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Post by Woo on Feb 1, 2024 4:58:55 GMT -5
It’s weird hhh is so “bad” with the women’s roster on main roster, when he was also behind the black and gold nxt women’s booking Maybe they need a completely separate person handling just the women in general. Got too much to deal with across 5 hours a week of booking He kind of wasn't. He had some unf***upable talents in the four horsewomen at the time when AJ Lee was bringing attention to the women and was able to continue that momentum. It's not as if the WWE didn't have similar talents as them 4 before and didn't f*** up on booking then. Beth Phoenix, Nattie and Serena Deeb and Katie Lea were all previously signed and squandered.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 2, 2024 23:39:11 GMT -5
I'm on the women's bandwagon as we head to Wrestlemania 100%.
Men's roster booking is just awful now with their decisions.
Let's bring it home Ladies!!!
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Post by schma on Feb 3, 2024 5:08:52 GMT -5
So tentatively we've got Iyo/Bayley and Becky/Rhea. I imagine the Kabuki warriors may get a match. This could be awesome for the women's side.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Feb 3, 2024 5:12:25 GMT -5
So tentatively we've got Iyo/Bayley and Becky/Rhea. I imagine the Kabuki warriors may get a match. This could be awesome for the women's side. And maybe Jade/Bianca
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Post by schma on Feb 3, 2024 5:18:15 GMT -5
So tentatively we've got Iyo/Bayley and Becky/Rhea. I imagine the Kabuki warriors may get a match. This could be awesome for the women's side. And maybe Jade/Bianca Oh right, I knew Bianca would have something but was having trouble remembering, which is crazy because Jade did a fantastic job in the rumble.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 3, 2024 18:06:49 GMT -5
I hope we get more than 2 women's matches over two nights. Besides the title matches, we gotta have a tag team match for the titles. And even a few singles solo showcases matches like Jade vs. Bianca.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 3, 2024 21:14:06 GMT -5
I hope we get more than 2 women's matches over two nights. Besides the title matches, we gotta have a tag team match for the titles. And even a few singles solo showcases matches like Jade vs. Bianca. I mean, say what you will about the booking and credibility of the women's tag belts, but ever since they were brought back (yes, they were around before, no Jumping Bomb Angels ignorance here), the champions have never not been booked on WrestleMania. And only once have the belts not actually been defended, that being last year with the champions Damage CTRL being in the six woman tag against Lynch, Stratus and Lita.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 3, 2024 21:19:18 GMT -5
I hope we get more than 2 women's matches over two nights. Besides the title matches, we gotta have a tag team match for the titles. And even a few singles solo showcases matches like Jade vs. Bianca. I mean, say what you will about the booking and credibility of the women's tag belts, but ever since they were brought back (yes, they were around before, no Jumping Bomb Angels ignorance here), the champions have never not been booked on WrestleMania. And only once have the belts not actually been defended, that being last year with the champions Damage CTRL being in the six woman tag against Lynch, Stratus and Lita. I had to look this up and they were at Wrestlemania 35: The IIconics defeated The Boss 'n' Hug Connection, Nia Jax and Tamina,and Beth Phoenix and Natalya by pinfall to win the tag team titles.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 3, 2024 21:21:39 GMT -5
I mean, say what you will about the booking and credibility of the women's tag belts, but ever since they were brought back (yes, they were around before, no Jumping Bomb Angels ignorance here), the champions have never not been booked on WrestleMania. And only once have the belts not actually been defended, that being last year with the champions Damage CTRL being in the six woman tag against Lynch, Stratus and Lita. I had to look this up and they were at Wrestlemania 35: The IIconics defeated The Boss 'n' Hug Connection, Nia Jax and Tamina,and Beth Phoenix and Natalya by pinfall to win the tag team titles. Yeah, they were literally brought back that year in the Elimination Chamber. After that, though you had Kabuki Warriors v Bliss/Cross at WM36, Jax/Baszler v Natalya/Tamina at WM37, and the Fatal 4-Way won by Banks/Naomi at WM38 all as title matches.
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 4, 2024 15:16:50 GMT -5
You don't do jade & bianca now. Give that the proper build it deserves & it's a high caliber, possibly mania main event type of match
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 4, 2024 15:18:05 GMT -5
You don't do jade & bianca now. Give that the proper build it deserves & it's a high caliber, possibly mania main event type of match Bianca vs. Jade Night 1. CM Punk vs. Whoever is the champion Night 2. Cody story is probably resolved by then, so this is the way for 2025.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 4, 2024 15:30:25 GMT -5
You don't do jade & bianca now. Give that the proper build it deserves & it's a high caliber, possibly mania main event type of match I guess that brings up the dilemma of when do you do it then. Because i'm sure they want to do Bianca vs Charlotte at WM and of course there's also Bianca vs Rhea Ripley
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 4, 2024 15:35:50 GMT -5
You don't do jade & bianca now. Give that the proper build it deserves & it's a high caliber, possibly mania main event type of match I guess that brings up the dilemma of when do you do it then. Because i'm sure they want to do Bianca vs Charlotte at WM and of course there's also Bianca vs Rhea Ripley I've thought for a while that bianca vs rhea would be a mania main next year. Feels like they're the 2 biggest stars & they're gonna eventually gonna face off for all the marbles. If Charlotte stayed healthy, I think her & jade would've faced off this year since they teased it on smackdown and everyone was pumped for it. Maybe when Charlotte returns they hit that button
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 5, 2024 23:50:53 GMT -5
Shout out to the KCs and Kabuki Warriors for putting on another good match, even if the crowd didn't care.
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 5, 2024 23:53:51 GMT -5
I hope the kabuki warriors get a title match at Mania. I'm enjoying what they've been doing so far
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 6, 2024 0:04:55 GMT -5
I hope the kabuki warriors get a title match at Mania. I'm enjoying what they've been doing so far Like I said in the Jade thread, Kabuki Warriors vs. Jade and Bianca would be fun. But I guess the problem with that is I doubt the Kabuki Warriors would win and I know everyone wants to see Asuka finally get a WM win.
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