4real
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Post by 4real on Feb 8, 2024 12:09:06 GMT -5
I loved it. Swerve broke him. He would rather Swerve not get a title shot than he himself getting one too. Brilliant stuff.
Can’t see him not siding with The Bucks again to try and get Swerve out of the match or something.
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ASYLUMHAUSEN
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Feb 8, 2024 13:45:24 GMT -5
Ironically Hangman doing this logical slow burn double turn with Swerve is a better Bret Hart tribute than anything CM Punk has ever done. *a muffins flies across the room in disgust*
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Post by discoelysium on Feb 8, 2024 15:02:13 GMT -5
Dint know if I'm feeling a heel Page yet, but the whole match and aftermath was great.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 8, 2024 15:26:35 GMT -5
Hangman Adam Page walking away from a fight was already eyebrow raising.
Walking away from a fight with Swerve after STILL not being able to beat him, even moreso.
And being CONTENT with that was the biggest of all.
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Post by grunt on Feb 8, 2024 16:11:02 GMT -5
Given the fact that i've never managed to care in the slightest about face Adam Page, I'm more than fine with unhinged mustached heel Page, as look as he's not the champ. It's Swerve time.
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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 8, 2024 16:39:36 GMT -5
The nice thing is that there will be core heel logic by Page explaining that Swerve will ultimately have no one to blame but himself when (or if) Hangman screws him out of the title. Strickland was the one who took things too far when he could have proved himself by outwrestling the other man. Instead Swerve threatened what was most precious to him and now he's going to threaten the thing Strickland holds most dear; winning the AEW World Championship.
"You could have done things right and taken yourself to new heights. But now? All that's gonna happen is I'm going to drag you down to the lowest of lows."
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Post by Viking Hall on Feb 9, 2024 2:19:15 GMT -5
I'm pretty, "Ehhhhhh..." on it myself, out of a mix of liking Hangman in the pure good guy role and not really at all understanding what Swerve's appeal is. Recognize he's super over but he just kind of seems like the portrait of a 6/10 to me. Great look, great promo, pure presence and incredible in the ring. If that's a 6 I'd love to see your 10.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 9, 2024 2:28:28 GMT -5
I'm pretty, "Ehhhhhh..." on it myself, out of a mix of liking Hangman in the pure good guy role and not really at all understanding what Swerve's appeal is. Recognize he's super over but he just kind of seems like the portrait of a 6/10 to me. Great look, great promo, pure presence and incredible in the ring. If that's a 6 I'd love to see your 10. I mean, if I agreed with all that then sure, but I just don't see it. Not to take anything away from people who do like him, clearly he's doing something right, but at least to me when I look at him I see a decent midcarder punching way above his weight class. Like, not taking it away from the people happy to see him getting a main event push, but I'm not going to pretend to be enthused about it myself.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Feb 9, 2024 2:29:43 GMT -5
This is gonna lead to Hangman stopping Swerve from beating Joe, but giving Joe the chance to win by beating Hangman. I don’t think Swerve’s winning the title at Revolution. Joe’s getting a longer reign and we’re not done with Swerve/Hangman yet. Page needs a couple cheap wins over Swerve now.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 9, 2024 7:23:00 GMT -5
This is gonna lead to Hangman stopping Swerve from beating Joe, but giving Joe the chance to win by beating Hangman. I don’t think Swerve’s winning the title at Revolution. Joe’s getting a longer reign and we’re not done with Swerve/Hangman yet. Page needs a couple cheap wins over Swerve now. On the other hand, this is the ideal time for TK to earn some extra good will while the fans are negative about WWE and TNA, and putting the belt on Swerve NOW does just that.
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Post by Soultastic on Feb 9, 2024 9:24:12 GMT -5
This is gonna lead to Hangman stopping Swerve from beating Joe, but giving Joe the chance to win by beating Hangman. I don’t think Swerve’s winning the title at Revolution. Joe’s getting a longer reign and we’re not done with Swerve/Hangman yet. Page needs a couple cheap wins over Swerve now. On the other hand, this is the ideal time for TK to earn some extra good will while the fans are negative about WWE and TNA, and putting the belt on Swerve NOW does just that. Taht's true, but also it's not like Joe being champ has people upset. I think either way could work, but I'd personally love it if Swerve won the title at All In. The biggest stage for who I beleive to be the wrestler with the most megastar potential in the company (of course, him defending in a high profile match would also work if the angle is hot enough).
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 9, 2024 9:55:55 GMT -5
On the other hand, this is the ideal time for TK to earn some extra good will while the fans are negative about WWE and TNA, and putting the belt on Swerve NOW does just that. Taht's true, but also it's not like Joe being champ has people upset. I think either way could work, but I'd personally love it if Swerve won the title at All In. The biggest stage for who I beleive to be the wrestler with the most megastar potential in the company (of course, him defending in a high profile match would also work if the angle is hot enough). It's probably already a given that Ospreay is winning the title at All In, no matter who the champion is at that point.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 9, 2024 10:28:45 GMT -5
I want Swerve to win but I don't want Joe to lose this quickly. Line up some title defences for Joe so he gets at least five or six in before he loses it.
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Post by Burst on Feb 9, 2024 11:14:11 GMT -5
I agree with the notion of Hangman being the heart of AEW, but I'd also argue it keeps him more interesting to have moments of weakness like this. You run the risk of him coming off as too milquetoast (and emboldening the toxic masculinity-flavored haters who are all like durr he's showing emotions he's not manly enough to be a top babyface) if he keeps on shrugging things off past a certain point. Coming out of this blood feud is, yeah, kind of a weird place for the pivot, but considering how red hot Swerve is right now, the Bret/Austin comparison is pretty apt.
And I'm honestly not even sure that Hangman is going to be booed all that much either way, this wasn't like a Hollywood Hangman level heel turn or anything, not yet anyway.
(Also, if this was early AEW, I could totally see a BTE bit where it was the moustache possessing him all along)
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 9, 2024 11:16:42 GMT -5
I agree with the notion of Hangman being the heart of AEW, but I'd also argue it keeps him more interesting to have moments of weakness like this. You run the risk of him coming off as too milquetoast (and emboldening the toxic masculinity-flavored haters who are all like durr he's showing emotions he's not manly enough to be a top babyface) if he keeps on shrugging things off past a certain point. Coming out of this blood feud is, yeah, kind of a weird place for the pivot, but considering how red hot Swerve is right now, the Bret/Austin comparison is pretty apt. And I'm honestly not even sure that Hangman is going to be booed all that much either way, this wasn't like a Hollywood Hangman level heel turn or anything, not yet anyway. (Also, if this was early AEW, I could totally see a BTE bit where it was the moustache possessing him all along) I don't want Swerve to start acting more face-ish. I want him to keep breaking into houses and attacking children. I want the dude committing as many (kayfabe) crimes as he can, and getting embraced for it anyway. And for the crowds to shit on anyone who tries to stop him or stand up to him.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 9, 2024 11:34:30 GMT -5
Right call. Swerve is the people’s choice and Hangman needed a fresh coat of paint.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Feb 10, 2024 0:15:22 GMT -5
So do we even know if there actually was a baby in the crib when Swerve invaded Hangman's home? We don't see a baby. Maybe Page has been lying about it the whole time? If so, Hangman is such a prick.
Or if there was a baby in the home, do we know that the baby was left home alone? We don't see anybody else at home. Did Hangman willingly leave a baby at home by itself? If so, Hangman is such a prick.
Maybe Swerve has been the babyface in this feud the entire time.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 10, 2024 0:28:14 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't need it to be a double turn.
I'm just good enough with the idea that Hangman is more invested in Swerve not achieving his goal than he is in being World Champion again.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 11, 2024 11:54:54 GMT -5
I'm okay with a double-turn but I hope Hangman isn't full on heel straight away. Make it a slow descent with The Bucks being what bring him to the dark side.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 12, 2024 14:52:22 GMT -5
I'm okay with a double-turn but I hope Hangman isn't full on heel straight away. Make it a slow descent with The Bucks being what bring him to the dark side. I still want Swerve to be an unrepentant bastard, even if the crowds love it. I want him burning down people's houses. I want him crashing funerals and pissing on the corpse before it gets buried. I want him carjacking people and leading a multi-state chase. I want him to go full GTA/Saints Row player-character.
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