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Post by daaave on Feb 13, 2024 12:57:00 GMT -5
Like really stacked. I just tried to order them ala TEW and... its crazy how much depth they have.
I've probably missed names (and I've excluded women) and some are injured but I got bored and gave up adding every name. Also this isn't about who's main or mid card. Just trying to visualise the depth of the roster
Main Eventers:
Samoa Joe
MJF
Kazuchika Okada
Swerve Strickland
Bryan Danielson
Jon Moxley
Will Ospreay
Hangman Adam Page
Semi Main Eventers:
Jay White
Adam Cole
Adam Copeland
Eddie Kingston
Orange Cassidy
Darby
Chris Jericho
Kenny Omega
Christian Cage
Upper Mid Card:
Miro
Malakai Black
Ricky Starks
Konosuke Takeshita
PAC
Rush
Sammy Guevara
Brody King
Daniel Garcia
Claudio Castagnoli
Wardlow
Mid Card:
Powerhouse Hobbs
Kyle Fletcher
Jack Perry
Buddy Matthews
Roddy Strong
Hook
Mark Briscoe
Brian Cage
Bandido
Juice Robinson
Wheeler Yuta
Tag Teams:
FTR
Young Bucks
Lucha Bros
Gunns
Dark Order
Top Flight
Gates of Agony
Acclaimed
Butcher & Blade
Private Party
The Hardys
2.0
Kingdom
Best Friends
EVERYONE ELSE
Komander
Jay Lethal
Ethan Page
Scorpio Sky
Bryan Keith
Killswitch
Shane Taylor
Big Bill
Lee Moriarty
Lance Archer
Nick Wayne
Kip Sabian
Ortiz
Santana
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Post by KME on Feb 13, 2024 13:18:25 GMT -5
Yeah it's incredibly stacked, even at a quick glance I think Aussie Open are missing, it's so easy to forget people due to the depth, which is a positive and a negative. Mostly a massive positive though, having "too many" great options to choose from is a great problem to have. The women's roster is starting to look really loaded too, Mercedes, Jamie, Britt, Thunder Rosa, Athena, Willow, Stat, Julia, Toni, Serena, Shida, Deonna, Megan Bayne, Riho, Mariah, Skye, Yuka, Tay, Anna, Ruby, Saraya, Queen Aminata, Emi, Red Velvet, Kiera, Billie Starkz and more. Some serious talent and depth there.
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Post by Totorob101 on Feb 13, 2024 13:28:22 GMT -5
Easily the best roster in wrestling and the women's side of things are just as good as other companies and the scary thing is they will continue to add more incredible talent in terms months ahead.
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Post by daaave on Feb 13, 2024 13:40:38 GMT -5
The thing that suprised me was I often here that the Tag division is empty nowadays. And maybe compared to the past it lacks a bit of star power but there is still plenty of teams there to have a fun division. Especially if they just devote some time and get seriously behind a couple (Top Flight, Aussie Open, Private Party maybe even Gates of Agony. Also think there is something in Best Friends getting a push and finally getting those tag belts). And you can always still add some single guys teams like Claudio and Mox or White and Juice etc
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 13, 2024 14:00:37 GMT -5
The thing that suprised me was I often here that the Tag division is empty nowadays. And maybe compared to the past it lacks a bit of star power but there is still plenty of teams there to have a fun division. Especially if they just devote some time and get seriously behind a couple (Top Flight, Aussie Open, Private Party maybe even Gates of Agony. Also think there is something in Best Friends getting a push and finally getting those tag belts). And you can always still add some single guys teams like Claudio and Mox or White and Juice etc I think the tag division suffers because Khan seems to weirdly favor very workmanlike teams like Aussie Open and the Kingdom over charismatic and quirky teams, with the latter filling out much of the depth. The quirky teams (Dark Order and Best Friends in particular) never seem to get a bigger push even when gaps open up, which makes the depth less meaningful. |
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 13, 2024 14:14:04 GMT -5
The thing that suprised me was I often here that the Tag division is empty nowadays. And maybe compared to the past it lacks a bit of star power but there is still plenty of teams there to have a fun division. Especially if they just devote some time and get seriously behind a couple (Top Flight, Aussie Open, Private Party maybe even Gates of Agony. Also think there is something in Best Friends getting a push and finally getting those tag belts). And you can always still add some single guys teams like Claudio and Mox or White and Juice etc Yeah it's crazy. There's no excuse for the division to have been such a non factor on Dynnamite for nearly a year. The talent is still there, just no semblance of an actual division. The other thing thats notable looking at that list is how top heavy it is. Helps explain why guys like Lethal are on TV so often, he's one that can afford to lose. Although that does raise the question of why Dark Order are so rarely featured these days. |
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Post by KME on Feb 13, 2024 16:08:52 GMT -5
The thing that suprised me was I often here that the Tag division is empty nowadays. And maybe compared to the past it lacks a bit of star power but there is still plenty of teams there to have a fun division. Especially if they just devote some time and get seriously behind a couple (Top Flight, Aussie Open, Private Party maybe even Gates of Agony. Also think there is something in Best Friends getting a push and finally getting those tag belts). And you can always still add some single guys teams like Claudio and Mox or White and Juice etc Yeah it's crazy. There's no excuse for the division to have been such a non factor on Dynnamite for nearly a year. The talent is still there, just no semblance of an actual division. The other thing thats notable looking at that list is how top heavy it is. Helps explain why guys like Lethal are on TV so often, he's one that can afford to lose. Although that does raise the question of why Dark Order are so rarely featured these days. FTR had the titles the majority of the year and mostly work Collision. Sure I've seen this point before but some titles are going to be on Dynamite more, others on Collision more, and if someone has a long reign that kind of thing's going to happen. One of my biggest wishes for this year is we get the Lucha Bros featured much more heavily and maybe another title run. |
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 13, 2024 18:00:06 GMT -5
Yeah it's crazy. There's no excuse for the division to have been such a non factor on Dynnamite for nearly a year. The talent is still there, just no semblance of an actual division. The other thing thats notable looking at that list is how top heavy it is. Helps explain why guys like Lethal are on TV so often, he's one that can afford to lose. Although that does raise the question of why Dark Order are so rarely featured these days. FTR had the titles the majority of the year and mostly work Collision. Sure I've seen this point before but some titles are going to be on Dynamite more, others on Collision more, and if someone has a long reign that kind of thing's going to happen. One of my biggest wishes for this year is we get the Lucha Bros featured much more heavily and maybe another title run. It goes further than the champions though. It's the importance placed on the division as a whole. The sense it's a big group of teams jockeying to get to the top of the division and that they are important beyond the title matches. Proper competition not teams waiting for their turn. They were once more and less equal to the men's singles division. It was a huge part of AEW's idenity. Admitedly part of that was the smaller roster with a lot more crossover than you get now, it's the downside of a stacked roster but there should still should have been much more importance placed on the division in 2023. Look at these two cards from years ago, tag title matches and other high profile tag matches on the same cards, tag guys in other matches on the same show, mid tier teams like Butcher and the Blade important enough to be featured when they rarely get on Dynamite now, even the singles matches furthered the tag division. Late 2019 Tag Team Match Adam Page & Kenny Omega vs. The Lucha Brothers (Pentagon Jr. & Rey Fenix) Tag Team Match Cody & Darby Allin vs. The Butcher And The Blade (The Blade & The Butcher) (w/The Bunny) Singles Match Awesome Kong (w/Brandi Rhodes & Melanie Cruise) vs. Miranda Alize Non Title Ten Minute Time Limit Match Chris Jericho (w/Jake Hager) vs. Jungle Boy (w/Luchasaurus & Marko Stunt) AEW Women's World Title #1 Contendership Match Dr. Britt Baker DMD vs. Kris Statlander AEW World Tag Team Title Match SCU (Frankie Kazarian & Scorpio Sky) (c) vs. The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson) Or this one from this time of year in 2021 Tag Team Match Adam Page & Matt Hardy vs. The Hybrid2 (Angelico & Jack Evans) AEW Women's World Title Eliminator Tournament United States Bracket First Round Match Serena Deeb vs. Riho Singles Match Luther (w/Serpentico) vs. Orange Cassidy (w/Chuck Taylor) AEW World Tag Team Title Match The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson) (c) vs. The Inner Circle (Ortiz & Santana) (w/Chris Jericho, Jake Hager, MJF & Wardlow) Tag Team Match Matt Sydal & Mike Sydal vs. FTR (Cash Wheeler & Dax Harwood) Six Man Tag Team Match Eddie Kingston & The Butcher And The Blade (The Blade & The Butcher) (w/The Bunny) vs. Jon Moxley, Lance Archer & Rey Fenix (w/Jake Roberts) |
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Post by neilc on Feb 14, 2024 11:37:27 GMT -5
Which is why I think they need to close the Forbidden Door. You have enough talent on the roster that you don't need to bring in CMLL and New Japan talent. I've never watched either, so I don't have the affection for Ishii or Minoro Suzuki that a lot of people had, especially when they always lose to AEW talent. I don't care about the CMLL guys who have no personality, when you have characters like Pent and Fenix, who I've liked since Lucha Underground. About the only outsiders who have any nongeneric characters are the joshi: I enjoyed when Emi Sakura or Maki Itoh were on because they have characters.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 14, 2024 12:49:19 GMT -5
The thing that suprised me was I often here that the Tag division is empty nowadays. And maybe compared to the past it lacks a bit of star power but there is still plenty of teams there to have a fun division. Especially if they just devote some time and get seriously behind a couple (Top Flight, Aussie Open, Private Party maybe even Gates of Agony. Also think there is something in Best Friends getting a push and finally getting those tag belts). And you can always still add some single guys teams like Claudio and Mox or White and Juice etc I think the tag division suffers because Khan seems to weirdly favor very workmanlike teams like Aussie Open and the Kingdom over charismatic and quirky teams, with the latter filling out much of the depth. The quirky teams (Dark Order and Best Friends in particular) never seem to get a bigger push even when gaps open up, which makes the depth less meaningful. I think it sucks that, with the Best Friends, they've had some big moments, but it doesn't seem to get them any closer to the tag belts, so you have stuff like them beating Proud and Powerful or Sabian/Miro in what were big moments for them, but then they just shuffle back behind Orange Cassidy as his cheerleaders. |
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 14, 2024 13:01:17 GMT -5
I think the tag division suffers because Khan seems to weirdly favor very workmanlike teams like Aussie Open and the Kingdom over charismatic and quirky teams, with the latter filling out much of the depth. The quirky teams (Dark Order and Best Friends in particular) never seem to get a bigger push even when gaps open up, which makes the depth less meaningful. I think it sucks that, with the Best Friends, they've had some big moments, but it doesn't seem to get them any closer to the tag belts, so you have stuff like them beating Proud and Powerful or Sabian/Miro in what were big moments for them, but then they just shuffle back behind Orange Cassidy as his cheerleaders. Each of them has spent enough time out on injury that I wonder if they're just classified, fairly or not, as guys on the downslope of their career. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 14, 2024 16:05:23 GMT -5
The thing that suprised me was I often here that the Tag division is empty nowadays. And maybe compared to the past it lacks a bit of star power but there is still plenty of teams there to have a fun division. Especially if they just devote some time and get seriously behind a couple (Top Flight, Aussie Open, Private Party maybe even Gates of Agony. Also think there is something in Best Friends getting a push and finally getting those tag belts). And you can always still add some single guys teams like Claudio and Mox or White and Juice etc I think the tag division suffers because Khan seems to weirdly favor very workmanlike teams like Aussie Open and the Kingdom over charismatic and quirky teams, with the latter filling out much of the depth. The quirky teams (Dark Order and Best Friends in particular) never seem to get a bigger push even when gaps open up, which makes the depth less meaningful. TK doesn't seem to know what to do with quirky, which is a shame since so much of the crowds are into that. |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Feb 14, 2024 19:23:48 GMT -5
But when will it be Whacked and Sacked?
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Post by bob on Feb 14, 2024 19:29:50 GMT -5
Danhausen to curse daaave for leaving him off the list.... but this roster is probably the deepest I've seen since the WWF Attitude Era |
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Post by Chuck Conry on Feb 15, 2024 6:39:24 GMT -5
That much talent on display and they still have trouble filling a lot of arenas.
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 15, 2024 9:04:48 GMT -5
This really struck home to me during all the discussion about where Okada and Mercedes would go.
Both the WWE and the AEW fans were taking about where they could fit in and pointing out how many talented people the companies had already.
Okada and Mercedes would absolutely be wanted and welcome, of course, it's not that, but neither company would actually be really hurt by not getting them because the rosters are crazy strong right now.
So they were wanted, but it wasn't make or break. If both had gone to WWE, AEW would've still had a fantastic roster.
As it happens, they're getting both so even better. But the talent is amazingly deep right now.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 15, 2024 9:21:07 GMT -5
I'm looking at the talent you have under Upper Mid Card and they could all be headliners in basically any promotion in the world.
This is a good demonstration of why AEW doesn't need to stress too much about losing wrestlers. Whether that's to injury, contracts expiring, or not signing new people. They have an embarrassment of riches.
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Post by Hunch back of Notredomus on Feb 15, 2024 9:49:57 GMT -5
Like really stacked. I just tried to order them ala TEW and... its crazy how much depth they have. I've probably missed names (and I've excluded women) and some are injured but I got bored and gave up adding every name. Also this isn't about who's main or mid card. Just trying to visualise the depth of the roster Main Eventers: Samoa Joe MJF Kazuchika Okada Swerve Strickland Bryan Danielson Jon Moxley Will Ospreay Hangman Adam Page Semi Main Eventers: Jay White Adam Cole Adam Copeland Eddie Kingston Orange Cassidy Darby Chris Jericho Kenny Omega Christian Cage Upper Mid Card: Miro Malakai Black Ricky Starks Konosuke Takeshita PAC Rush Sammy Guevara Brody King Daniel Garcia Claudio Castagnoli Wardlow Mid Card: Powerhouse Hobbs Kyle Fletcher Jack Perry Buddy Matthews Roddy Strong Hook Mark Briscoe Brian Cage Bandido Juice Robinson Wheeler Yuta Tag Teams: FTR Young Bucks Lucha Bros Gunns Dark Order Top Flight Gates of Agony Acclaimed Butcher & Blade Private Party The Hardys 2.0 Kingdom Best Friends EVERYONE ELSE Komander Jay Lethal Ethan Page Scorpio Sky Bryan Keith Killswitch Shane Taylor Big Bill Lee Moriarty Lance Archer Nick Wayne Kip Sabian Ortiz Santana Yep. That’s not including the ROH roster. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 17, 2024 18:49:35 GMT -5
I think one of the main issues WWE has had for a long time and AEW has too is their rosters are *too* stacked. It makes it hard to be a fan of anyone who isn't a firm main eventer because it's hard for them to all get TV time, never mind a push
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