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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 28, 2024 4:34:11 GMT -5
Always fun waking up and trying to piece together the latest drama. Did Heyman finally delete the tweet or has Elon broke how they display again? It looks like, mercilessly, the tweet is finally gone.
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Post by clifford on Feb 28, 2024 7:25:57 GMT -5
Heyman's a loser and has been since he swindled ECW stars out of their money
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 28, 2024 8:13:23 GMT -5
Nice of Heyman to justify this thread's existence by making punchlines about a recently deceased person over on his Twitter. Wait, did I say nice? I meant the same level of sociopathy he's had since the 90s. It's made the 'Paul E. never made fun of a dead body' points age like milk hasn't it Just, how do you not know better? Paul Heyman is clearly very smart. I can’t imagine him thinking that this was a good idea. But here we are. Shouldn’t the situation he’s referencing, tell you just how sensitive this subject is? It should take less than a second to think better. Paul Heyman is as much a "Controversy Creates Cash" disciple as Eric Bischoff, if not moreso. But some things, especially something like this, should just be off-limits for a cheap reaction. Leave that to Twitter edgelords. yeah his record largely ended up being 'controversy creates debt' really
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 28, 2024 8:53:22 GMT -5
@#$%'s sake, Paul.
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Post by mrpeacock on Feb 28, 2024 8:56:17 GMT -5
Heyman's a loser and has been since he swindled ECW stars out of their money He also promised Kimona Wanalaya that he wouldn’t release the footage of her “Dancing atop ECW arena” while she entertained the crowd when the ring broke. He then put it on a VHS made it a huge focal point in the commercials. She saw no money from this.
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Feb 28, 2024 21:33:35 GMT -5
While I'm not defending what he tweeted it disappoints me the amount of people who don't truly understand that Heyman, a person whose upbringing had more than likely been filled with prejudice and hatred towards him and his JEWISH family, was in essence responding to what the young airman had done and stated. Anyone who says Heyman is a loser and Heyman is scum should themselves be ashamed as they're not pointing out that Heyman defended his religious background against a hate group whose mission is to exterminate the Jews and forever banish them from Israel, but because of HOW he expressed what he did he's an evil hateful person. I'm sure this will be my farewell from here but some of you people need to look at the bigger picture and see a man who has been hated for his beliefs rather than the act of how he expressed himself. Was it in bad taste? Yes but he has a right to do so and he is defending himself and his family in doing so.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 28, 2024 21:43:53 GMT -5
While I'm not defending what he tweeted it disappoints me the amount of people who don't truly understand that Heyman, a person whose upbringing had more than likely been filled with prejudice and hatred towards him and his JEWISH family, was in essence responding to what the young airman had done and stated. Anyone who says Heyman is a loser and Heyman is scum should themselves be ashamed as they're not pointing out that Heyman defended his religious background against a hate group whose mission is to exterminate the Jews and forever banish them from Israel, but because of HOW he expressed what he did he's an evil hateful person. I'm sure this will be my farewell from here but some of you people need to look at the bigger picture and see a man who has been hated for his beliefs rather than the act of how he expressed himself. Was it in bad taste? Yes but he has a right to do so and he is defending himself and his family in doing so. He didn't express beliefs, he didn't defend himself, he didn't make any kind of meaningful statement on what happened. He used it to promote Roman Reigns.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 28, 2024 21:52:55 GMT -5
While I'm not defending what he tweeted it disappoints me the amount of people who don't truly understand that Heyman, a person whose upbringing had more than likely been filled with prejudice and hatred towards him and his JEWISH family, was in essence responding to what the young airman had done and stated. Anyone who says Heyman is a loser and Heyman is scum should themselves be ashamed as they're not pointing out that Heyman defended his religious background against a hate group whose mission is to exterminate the Jews and forever banish them from Israel, but because of HOW he expressed what he did he's an evil hateful person. I'm sure this will be my farewell from here but some of you people need to look at the bigger picture and see a man who has been hated for his beliefs rather than the act of how he expressed himself. Was it in bad taste? Yes but he has a right to do so and he is defending himself and his family in doing so. He didn't express beliefs, he didn't defend himself, he didn't make any kind of meaningful statement on what happened. He used it to promote Roman Reigns. Again, you’re right. But as the post above illustrates this is a very emotional circumstance. Those emotions lead to anger which leads to doing the wrong thing.
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Post by DichEvans on Feb 28, 2024 22:03:04 GMT -5
I think the vast majority of wrestling fans are good people, but out of all the fanbases I am a part of, the wrestling community is still by far the most toxic.
'Glass houses' applies more to this fan base than any other.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 28, 2024 22:38:04 GMT -5
He didn't express beliefs, he didn't defend himself, he didn't make any kind of meaningful statement on what happened. He used it to promote Roman Reigns. Again, you’re right. But as the post above illustrates this is a very emotional circumstance. Those emotions lead to anger which leads to doing the wrong thing. Heyman's post didn't come from anger, though. You don't watch a man set himself on fire in protest, regardless of what side of it you sit on, and bang out a tweet about how Roman Reigns sets TV ratings on fire, because you're 'angry'. You do it because you're a callous scumbag steeped in decades of the kind of self-delusion where everything you do is for the sake of TV and to scam people and to keep up some arbitrary sense that you're 'working' everybody. That is not a post stirred by emotion. Not anger, not sorrow, not trauma, not defiance. It is spurred by simply being so rotted and broken a human being that there is no low you will not sink to. He made a joke of it. People in this thread are more affected with anger by his post than he was when he wrote it and I am baffled that some people don't realize that. He doesn't care. Caring isn't what he does. He is a man devoid of empathy and he always has been. I think the vast majority of wrestling fans are good people, but out of all the fanbases I am a part of, the wrestling community is still by far the most toxic. 'Glass houses' applies more to this fan base than any other. Why is it that any time someone makes a "wrestling fans have no place to talk" post it's always about the most melted shit that most people would never have done in their lives? Truly baffling levels of judgment.
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Post by Starshine on Feb 28, 2024 22:43:30 GMT -5
I just don't see the connection between what Heyman's background or beliefs have to do with a post he made that clearly was about trying to tie a real life event into making it all about himself. If it had been some sort of emotionally charged statement or reaction, then I could see that being a defence as to why he shared it. But nothing about this seems to point towards the guy feeling like he needs to stand up for anything beyond his own hubris.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 28, 2024 22:45:58 GMT -5
Again, you’re right. But as the post above illustrates this is a very emotional circumstance. Those emotions lead to anger which leads to doing the wrong thing. Heyman's post didn't come from anger, though. You don't watch a man set himself on fire in protest, regardless of what side of it you sit on, and bang out a tweet about how Roman Reigns sets TV ratings on fire, because you're 'angry'. You do it because you're a callous scumbag steeped in decades of the kind of self-delusion where everything you do is for the sake of TV and to scam people and to keep up some arbitrary sense that you're 'working' everybody. That is not a post stirred by emotion. Not anger, not sorrow, not trauma, not defiance. It is spurred by simply being so rotted and broken a human being that there is no low you will not sink to. He made a joke of it. People in this thread are more affected with anger by his post than he was when he wrote it and I am baffled that some people don't realize that. He doesn't care. Caring isn't what he does. He is a man devoid of empathy and he always has been. I'm sorry but I have to adamantly disagree. It is well within reason He wanted to talk down to the admiration the deceased was getting because of the aimed reflection it has on the people of his heritage. This goes beyond the wrestling business. He shouldn't have done it. Absolutely. But I don't think it's fair to be dismissive of what Paul may be possibly feeling.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 28, 2024 22:49:22 GMT -5
Quick Paul, develop a connection to the Speed Force and run go back in time to stop yourself from tweeting this!
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 28, 2024 22:53:06 GMT -5
Heyman's post didn't come from anger, though. You don't watch a man set himself on fire in protest, regardless of what side of it you sit on, and bang out a tweet about how Roman Reigns sets TV ratings on fire, because you're 'angry'. You do it because you're a callous scumbag steeped in decades of the kind of self-delusion where everything you do is for the sake of TV and to scam people and to keep up some arbitrary sense that you're 'working' everybody. That is not a post stirred by emotion. Not anger, not sorrow, not trauma, not defiance. It is spurred by simply being so rotted and broken a human being that there is no low you will not sink to. He made a joke of it. People in this thread are more affected with anger by his post than he was when he wrote it and I am baffled that some people don't realize that. He doesn't care. Caring isn't what he does. He is a man devoid of empathy and he always has been. I'm sorry but I have to adamantly disagree. It is well within reason He wanted to talk down to the admiration the deceased was getting because of the aimed reflection it has on the people of his heritage. This goes beyond the wrestling business. He shouldn't have done it. Absolutely. But I don't think it's fair to be dismissive of what Paul may be possibly feeling. I'm gonna make a bold claim here and say that if you're trying to give Paul Heyman the benefit of the doubt and an emotionally honest motivation for doing something, you're already coming at this from the wrong direction.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 28, 2024 22:55:20 GMT -5
Heyman's post didn't come from anger, though. You don't watch a man set himself on fire in protest, regardless of what side of it you sit on, and bang out a tweet about how Roman Reigns sets TV ratings on fire, because you're 'angry'. You do it because you're a callous scumbag steeped in decades of the kind of self-delusion where everything you do is for the sake of TV and to scam people and to keep up some arbitrary sense that you're 'working' everybody. That is not a post stirred by emotion. Not anger, not sorrow, not trauma, not defiance. It is spurred by simply being so rotted and broken a human being that there is no low you will not sink to. He made a joke of it. People in this thread are more affected with anger by his post than he was when he wrote it and I am baffled that some people don't realize that. He doesn't care. Caring isn't what he does. He is a man devoid of empathy and he always has been. I'm sorry but I have to adamantly disagree. It is well within reason He wanted to talk down to the admiration the deceased was getting because of the aimed reflection it has on the people of his heritage. This goes beyond the wrestling business. He shouldn't have done it. Absolutely. But I don't think it's fair to be dismissive of what Paul may be possibly feeling. I don't think anyone's being dismissive of what Paul Heyman may personally be feeling, we don't actually know, sure, there's reasonable argument there. I just think everyone's giving him a wicked side eye for THAT being what he decided to do with it instead of anything actually meaningful, no actual conversation is going to be had with what he did, it was snide, careless, and now no one is positively commenting to him about it The LEAST he could do is apologize about this, and I doubt he will... would love to be proven wrong.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 28, 2024 22:58:06 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I have to adamantly disagree. It is well within reason He wanted to talk down to the admiration the deceased was getting because of the aimed reflection it has on the people of his heritage. This goes beyond the wrestling business. He shouldn't have done it. Absolutely. But I don't think it's fair to be dismissive of what Paul may be possibly feeling. I'm gonna make a bold claim here and say that if you're trying to give Paul Heyman the benefit of the doubt and an emotionally honest motivation for doing something, you're already coming at this from the wrong direction. Nope. I'm coming from this from a person of a similar heritige who has had his own emotional battles during this whole conflict, that has caused me to post things on the internet that I probably shouldn't have. Like I said, this goes beyond the carny wrestling business. And if you can't recognize any of that of possibly being valid because of Heyman's past transgressions in the carny wrestling business, I'd make the bold claim that isn't the fair way to look at it either.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 28, 2024 23:00:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I have to adamantly disagree. It is well within reason He wanted to talk down to the admiration the deceased was getting because of the aimed reflection it has on the people of his heritage. This goes beyond the wrestling business. He shouldn't have done it. Absolutely. But I don't think it's fair to be dismissive of what Paul may be possibly feeling. I don't think anyone's being dismissive of what Paul Heyman may personally be feeling, we don't actually know, sure, there's reasonable argument there. I just think everyone's giving him a wicked side eye for THAT being what he decided to do with it instead of anything actually meaningful, no actual conversation is going to be had with what he did, it was snide, careless, and now no one is positively commenting to him about it The LEAST he could do is apologize about this, and I doubt he will... would love to be proven wrong. And in a rare form of bipartisanship for me and you... This is all appropriate and fair. Again it was stupid for Heyman to do.
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Post by Error on Feb 28, 2024 23:05:21 GMT -5
Okay, we've reached a point in this discussion that it cannot go any further without getting deeper into a geopolitical and religious discussion which we're not going to have.
Thank you to those that tried to discuss things in a calm manner.
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Post by City Duck on Feb 28, 2024 23:05:34 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 28, 2024 23:08:25 GMT -5
I don't think anyone's being dismissive of what Paul Heyman may personally be feeling, we don't actually know, sure, there's reasonable argument there. I just think everyone's giving him a wicked side eye for THAT being what he decided to do with it instead of anything actually meaningful, no actual conversation is going to be had with what he did, it was snide, careless, and now no one is positively commenting to him about it The LEAST he could do is apologize about this, and I doubt he will... would love to be proven wrong. And in a rare form of bipartisanship for me and you... This is all appropriate and fair. Again it was stupid for Heyman to do. Listen if you weren't a Mets fan we'd definitely agree more on things, you and Polarbearpete just sadly, choose the dark side while I choose the Phillies so we naturally disagree all the time! (We can all hate the Braves)
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