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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Mar 7, 2024 1:19:20 GMT -5
I hope they still let him go supervillain mode. The thing I hate when wrestlers change alignments is when they become completely different characters. Hangman’s turn has made sense so far in that he just has an obsession with keeping the title off swerve, as opposed to just “well now I’m evil.”
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Post by stevescorpio on Mar 7, 2024 7:31:15 GMT -5
I do like that they have had Swerve admit he's done some horrible things. He does need to get away from Nana to totally complete the turn.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2024 7:55:28 GMT -5
I do like that they have had Swerve admit he's done some horrible things. He does need to get away from Nana to totally complete the turn. No, never get away from Nana Nana dance powers him up!
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Post by 4real on Mar 7, 2024 8:05:15 GMT -5
It was a good way of doing it. He has to win the title to justify the new attitude otherwise he’s going to look stupid if he still couldn’t win the big one. I think he will and it will vindicate his decision to “become a bit nicer”.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 7, 2024 8:07:49 GMT -5
I think AEW’s set up for a while with Swerve, Ospreay, and MJF (when he returns) as their top three men’s faces.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 7, 2024 8:17:02 GMT -5
Can someone tell me why WWE released this guy? I feel like he just got lumped in with a pool of people who were really green and no one bothered to look at Serve's individual work. This guy is just dripping in talent and charisma. No clue but even Triple H thought Top Dolla was the star. I do know Swerve was hired in that weird time where many wrestlers admit that if you had any sort of buzz WWE would hire ya, but also I believe he was hired when AEW was starting up so they were also hiring people just so AEW couldn't.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 7, 2024 8:45:15 GMT -5
Well overdue. I think he’s gonna be awesome in the role. If he’s not the next world champion, I’ll be shocked.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 7, 2024 8:55:41 GMT -5
Can someone tell me why WWE released this guy? I feel like he just got lumped in with a pool of people who were really green and no one bothered to look at Serve's individual work. This guy is just dripping in talent and charisma. One of the biggest dropped balls of maybe their last 20 years at least Dude had it all, and has it all still if not even more then when he was there. But Vince AND HHH saw Top Dolla as a star over him, for some reason Hit Row collapsed without him, and now the only one who might even be worth a damn by the end of it all is B-Fab. He made the group, he could have and should have been a star there... very much their loss has been AEW's gain. The reports were Vince saw Top Dolla as the leader of the group, not that Triple H did. Triple H was slow to push him at first in NXT but then he eventually was pushed pretty hard.
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Post by Soultastic on Mar 7, 2024 8:59:46 GMT -5
I'm kinda torn on the Nana situation.
On one hand, Nana dance is a big part of the act.
On the other hand, Nana is best served as a heel, and the rest of the faction needs him, else they'll go back to doing nothing, and goddammit I need Cage to still show up randomly and get his shit in.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2024 9:01:30 GMT -5
One of the biggest dropped balls of maybe their last 20 years at least Dude had it all, and has it all still if not even more then when he was there. But Vince AND HHH saw Top Dolla as a star over him, for some reason Hit Row collapsed without him, and now the only one who might even be worth a damn by the end of it all is B-Fab. He made the group, he could have and should have been a star there... very much their loss has been AEW's gain. The reports were Vince saw Top Dolla as the leader of the group, not that Triple H did. Triple H was slow to push him at first in NXT but then he eventually was pushed pretty hard. Every report and comment I ever see on this situation is that HHH also saw more in Top Dolla than Swerve in the end, and that's why Swerve got released.
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Post by Soultastic on Mar 7, 2024 9:03:02 GMT -5
The reports were Vince saw Top Dolla as the leader of the group, not that Triple H did. Triple H was slow to push him at first in NXT but then he eventually was pushed pretty hard. Every report and comment I ever see on this situation is that HHH also saw more in Top Dolla than Swerve in the end, and that's why Swerve got released. Also Swerve himself in Renee's podcast spoke about his frustrations with being overlooked by Triple H.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2024 9:04:33 GMT -5
Every report and comment I ever see on this situation is that HHH also saw more in Top Dolla than Swerve in the end, and that's why Swerve got released. Also Swerve himself in Renee's podcast spoke about his frustrations with being overlooked by Triple H. Yeah so idk why this is even a dispute HHH didn't see it with Swerve, he whiffed Dude's whiffed on talent before and this one imo is one of his biggest, especially with the context of what they tried instead, whose biggest accomplishment in the company was being clowned on for a botched dive...
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 7, 2024 9:18:00 GMT -5
The reports were Vince saw Top Dolla as the leader of the group, not that Triple H did. Triple H was slow to push him at first in NXT but then he eventually was pushed pretty hard. Every report and comment I ever see on this situation is that HHH also saw more in Top Dolla than Swerve in the end, and that's why Swerve got released. I’ve never seen a reputable report saying that Triple H thought Top Dolla would be the main eventer over Swerve. There was a report about Vince thinking that. And yes Swerve was upset in NXT that he wasn’t one of Triple H’s main event guys but there’s no indication Triple H thought Top Dolla was that guy. When they did actually push Hit Row in NXT, Triple H pushed Swerve as the forefront and singles champion of the group. Also the release has nothing to do with anything, that was done by Vince and they also cut Top Dolla at the same time.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Mar 7, 2024 9:20:17 GMT -5
I do like that they have had Swerve admit he's done some horrible things. He does need to get away from Nana to totally complete the turn. No, never get away from Nana Nana dance powers him up! Nana is BUNS. (don’t mind me…just livin the gimmick over here, brother)
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Post by Mid-Carder on Mar 7, 2024 10:04:30 GMT -5
It would be really great if in his first promo as a face he didn't go to the "lol I f***ed your girlfriend" well
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 7, 2024 10:27:24 GMT -5
Every report and comment I ever see on this situation is that HHH also saw more in Top Dolla than Swerve in the end, and that's why Swerve got released. I’ve never seen a reputable report saying that Triple H thought Top Dolla would be the main eventer over Swerve. There was a report about Vince thinking that. And yes Swerve was upset in NXT that he wasn’t one of Triple H’s main event guys but there’s no indication Triple H thought Top Dolla was that guy. When they did actually push Hit Row in NXT, Triple H pushed Swerve as the forefront and singles champion of the group. Also the release has nothing to do with anything, that was done by Vince and they also cut Top Dolla at the same time. except Swerve himself saying that he was flat out told by Hunter once called up they all saw Top Dolla as the star and felt Swerve was best in a tag team
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Post by lucas_lee on Mar 7, 2024 10:39:50 GMT -5
Can someone tell me why WWE released this guy? I feel like he just got lumped in with a pool of people who were really green and no one bothered to look at Serve's individual work. This guy is just dripping in talent and charisma. That was pretty of Trips biggest fumbles. HBK was the only one who saw star power in him and tried to use his effectively but Trips didn't
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Post by eJm on Mar 7, 2024 10:59:14 GMT -5
Can someone tell me why WWE released this guy? I feel like he just got lumped in with a pool of people who were really green and no one bothered to look at Serve's individual work. This guy is just dripping in talent and charisma. That was pretty of Trips biggest fumbles. HBK was the only one who saw star power in him and tried to use his effectively but Trips didn't I’m someone who saw him occasionally here in Ireland and even in the bar next to the National Stadium where OTT still holds shows, Swerve just had this star quality that’s hard to find, getting people to sing Shaka Khan (badly and out of sync) every time. The fact HHH went up to him and said “Not you, it’s AJ Francis we want to build” is downright mind boggling. At worst, he should have been a US title guy like the North American title was for him in NXT.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 7, 2024 11:53:41 GMT -5
I’ve never seen a reputable report saying that Triple H thought Top Dolla would be the main eventer over Swerve. There was a report about Vince thinking that. And yes Swerve was upset in NXT that he wasn’t one of Triple H’s main event guys but there’s no indication Triple H thought Top Dolla was that guy. When they did actually push Hit Row in NXT, Triple H pushed Swerve as the forefront and singles champion of the group. Also the release has nothing to do with anything, that was done by Vince and they also cut Top Dolla at the same time. except Swerve himself saying that he was flat out told by Hunter once called up they all saw Top Dolla as the star and felt Swerve was best in a tag team Where did Swerve say that? I’ve seen the Meltzer report that Top Dolla was seen by Vince as the potential breakout of the group, but not that Triple H believed that himself.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 7, 2024 13:38:05 GMT -5
I'm not totally sold the new WWE would treat Swerve the same way as the old WWE but it's clear they fumbled the bag with him.
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