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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 12, 2024 14:26:50 GMT -5
For this, I am using "Bad" loosely. It can just be someone, like Bret Hart, who isn't known for his promos, but has had some that stood out as especially good, for instance.
I was inspired to make this thread because most of Ultimate Warrior's promos are dogshit, just utterly meaningless, but I do think his "TAKE THE PLANE INTO A NOSEDIVE, Hulk. Hogan." promo leading to his Wrestlemania match with Hogan actually got the job done.
I am much kinder to Brandi Rhodes than basically the vast majority of people on this forum. She never secretly kicked the shit out of my grandma or whatever happened to some of you that got you this angry towards her. But, I usually wouldn't call her like an amazing promo or anything, even if I think she added a lot to make Cody feel like a big deal on his rise. That said, her promo on Shawn Spears leading to his match with Cody was excellent, like it very much sold the idea she wanted him run over by an airplane and his smeared corpse power sprayed off of the tarmac, just absolute disdain for his existence.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Mar 12, 2024 14:42:21 GMT -5
When Goldberg had to do anything more than say you're next it generally didn't go well but his return promo in 2016 was genuinely great and heartfelt.
If he retired after Mania 33 I think that would have went down as one of the greatest comeback stories then farewells ever but he just had to keep coming back for more matches over the next 4-5 years.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 12, 2024 15:22:07 GMT -5
Sid leaned more into unintentionally funny than outright bad, but there are those occasional promos where he lived up to how intense his look made him appear: Sycho Sid Promo from an Empty Alamodome
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 12, 2024 19:40:07 GMT -5
Sid leaned more into unintentionally funny than outright bad, but there are those occasional promos where he lived up to how intense his look made him appear: Sycho Sid Promo from an Empty AlamodomeI thought Sid Justice was a really great promo. Came off legit scary and psycho. Later versions of Sid were more like lovable Gary Busey crazy.
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Post by karl100589 on Mar 13, 2024 1:29:05 GMT -5
Admittedly I'm biased, but I loved Ronda's heel turn promo. For the past year Ronda had been working overtime to endear herself to WWE fans by being a hard-working, white meat babyface, so it was understandable for her to be upset when the fans rejected her in favour of anti-hero Becky. Usually "I didn't change, the fans did" is a lazy heel turn excuse, but in this case it felt warranted.
A lot of Ronda's promos were overly scripted, this is one of the few times it felt real.
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Post by malloc on Mar 16, 2024 7:21:31 GMT -5
That time Bret called Goldberg a dummy.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 16, 2024 8:08:04 GMT -5
Sid leaned more into unintentionally funny than outright bad, but there are those occasional promos where he lived up to how intense his look made him appear: Sycho Sid Promo from an Empty AlamodomeI thought Sid Justice was a really great promo. Came off legit scary and psycho. Later versions of Sid were more like lovable Gary Busey crazy. Would you go so far as to say that some of those later promos were BOGUS(!)?
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 16, 2024 8:13:20 GMT -5
I wouldn’t call Ricky Steamboat a bad promo, but they could be very unspectacular especially in comparison to his in-ring work. That said his prematch promo at WrestleMania III was pretty awesome.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Mar 16, 2024 17:34:53 GMT -5
Ryback is a dumbass but his "Where were you John?" promo after turning heel was pretty good.
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Post by Urn Anderson on Mar 16, 2024 20:30:04 GMT -5
That time Bret called Goldberg a dummy. I thought Bret seemed to loosen up a little in his WCW promos. “Who are you to doubt El Dandy” is one of my favorite lines from any promo ever.
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Post by Adair on Mar 18, 2024 9:38:01 GMT -5
I don't think Bret was a bad promo. Bret still felt real even as the industry moved away from the sport aspects of wrestling in the late 90s.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 18, 2024 10:46:13 GMT -5
It technically might not be a promo, but Warrior appeared on Prime Time shortly after the casket incident on Superstars and did an *awesome* job of showing how shaken he was by the whole thing. There was no screaming and grunting, just a guy, talking about damn near being killed, in a regular, subdued tone
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Post by MachoManGodzilla on Mar 18, 2024 11:09:26 GMT -5
I wouldn’t call Ricky Steamboat a bad promo, but they could be very unspectacular especially in comparison to his in-ring work. That said his prematch promo at WrestleMania III was pretty awesome. "This is our moment!" I love this promo.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Mar 18, 2024 12:15:35 GMT -5
I never had a problem with Brets promos.
Ryback absolutely stunk in the ring and at promos but I seem to remember him once doing a half decent promo stood on the roof of an ambulance.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 18, 2024 12:47:42 GMT -5
I don't think Bret was a bad promo. Bret still felt real even as the industry moved away from the sport aspects of wrestling in the late 90s. I don't think he was a *bad* promo but he sure wasn't a *good* promo until like 1996 and by 97 onwards I think he had the capacity to become a great one His best promo work was unfortunately mainly wasted in WCW
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Post by mcstoklasa on Mar 18, 2024 13:22:08 GMT -5
I don't think Bret was a bad promo. Bret still felt real even as the industry moved away from the sport aspects of wrestling in the late 90s. I don't think he was a *bad* promo but he sure wasn't a *good* promo until like 1996 and by 97 onwards I think he had the capacity to become a great one His best promo work was unfortunately mainly wasted in WCW You rotten stinking hyena!
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 18, 2024 16:07:18 GMT -5
I don't think he was a *bad* promo but he sure wasn't a *good* promo until like 1996 and by 97 onwards I think he had the capacity to become a great one His best promo work was unfortunately mainly wasted in WCW You rotten stinking hyena! HE'S AN ANIMAL
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 19, 2024 11:50:03 GMT -5
It technically might not be a promo, but Warrior appeared on Prime Time shortly after the casket incident on Superstars and did an *awesome* job of showing how shaken he was by the whole thing. There was no screaming and grunting, just a guy, talking about damn near being killed, in a regular, subdued tone Ooh, I don't have any memory of that one, interesting.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 19, 2024 11:53:28 GMT -5
I don't think Bret was a bad promo. Bret still felt real even as the industry moved away from the sport aspects of wrestling in the late 90s. I don't think he was a *bad* promo but he sure wasn't a *good* promo until like 1996 and by 97 onwards I think he had the capacity to become a great one His best promo work was unfortunately mainly wasted in WCW Yeah, that was mainly what I was talking about in the first post, that he DID have some great promos, usually as a heel since frankly he was a very believable complainer, but he did also cut some very basic promos or need to kind of shrink in the background while Anvil did the talking as a tag team, etc. I wouldn't call him a bad promo, there are worse ones, but as a main event guy, he was often pretty average to below average at it. Shawn, too, due to really cheesy one-liners that had no prayer of getting over, but he obviously improved, too, and probably got more consistent than Bret. Bret is probably on Undertaker's level, promo-wise. You'd get some cheesy stuff, but also some effective work. Bret just never gave anything as heinous as the "I left Big Show in the desert" promo, which still remains one of the most astonishingly bad promos by a main event guy in WWE history.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 19, 2024 11:55:59 GMT -5
I don't think he was a *bad* promo but he sure wasn't a *good* promo until like 1996 and by 97 onwards I think he had the capacity to become a great one His best promo work was unfortunately mainly wasted in WCW Yeah, that was mainly what I was talking about in the first post, that he DID have some great promos, usually as a heel since frankly he was a very believable complainer, but he did also cut some very basic promos or need to kind of shrink in the background while Anvil did the talking as a tag team, etc. I wouldn't call him a bad promo, there are worse ones, but as a main event guy, he was often pretty average to below average at it. Shawn, too, due to really cheesy one-liners that had no prayer of getting over, but he obviously improved, too, and probably got more consistent than Bret. Bret is probably on Undertaker's level, promo-wise. You'd get some cheesy stuff, but also some effective work. Bret just never gave anything a heinous as the "I left Big Show in the desert" promo, which still remains one of the most astonishingly bad promos by a main event guy in WWE history. That is a very good point Taker spent most of his career doing the slow zombie grumble, which really didn't require much skill. He managed to circumvent being a pretty poor promo most of the time
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