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Post by jm on Mar 29, 2024 12:47:31 GMT -5
It's amazing how Tony Khan makes people so upset and deranged simply by his mere existence that they have now resorted to trying to white knight ERIC BISCHOFF of all people.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Mar 29, 2024 12:50:32 GMT -5
I think Bischoff appeals to a certain type of bootlicker that is mad that someone has increased the pay and opportunities of the people they supposedly love, the pro wrestlers.
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Post by eJm on Mar 29, 2024 13:03:41 GMT -5
And don't misunderstand me. If there was an easy way to implement it in any profession without coming off as draconian, I'd want a decent social media policy of how people talk about stuff or address stuff or whatever. The problem is, that stuff would cross so many lines, it'd be almost not worth doing. I'd ban worked shoots, though, very few of them ever look good on social media. And hey, would I rather TK not tweet at people about stuff? Sure, absolutely. That's not the world we live in, though especially with the genie out of the bottle and you need to use it as a promotional tool as much as anything else.
The wider point is that, I'd say, 85% of the stuff that happens on Twitter, Instagram etc matters so little and are blown up so much, it feels like a gigantic waste of time in comparison to some of the stuff that does happen that should be dealt with on these platforms like cyber bullying, protecting younger users from various things (even parents) or the various rules that protect the wrong crowd who talk on there. It just feels utter nonsense.
And there are people on Social Media like "Oh, I can't support AEW because of TK's tweets". That's your line? There are SpeakingOut accused performing for all companies and the biggest one in the world might be involved in something that could destroy the reputation of the industry to the point of no return and that's your boundary?!
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 29, 2024 14:18:12 GMT -5
Yeah he also had one of the better responses to the Vince allegations than a lot of wrestlers too. I dont what his deal is with AEW, but it's his opinion at the end of the day. This two are grown adults acting like children. Given that Bischoff made AEW appearances early on, I have always kind of suspected that he tried to grift his way into some sort of booking/production role with AEW and/or "offered Tony some friendly advice" that got turned down, and that is what drew his ire. Tony even appeared on 83 weeks for a stream or 2. I think you're pretty close to right. Eric wasn't always AEW's biggest fan but he was fair early, did some appearances which were well received, then out of nowhere he and Tony were legit taking every chance to take shots at each other. Now I do get people getting mad at Tony for drunk tweeting, which he absolutely needs to stop doing, but we also have to acknowledge that Eric's criticisms of AEW have gone from fairly balanced to pretty mean spirited pretty quickly. And I don't even hate Eric like many on the forum do. I find a lot of his podcasts interesting even if there's a lot of clear BS there (or he's changing his story because Guy Evans wrote an amazing book where even Turner execs admitted the parent company did just as much if not more to hurt WCW than Eric did).
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Mar 29, 2024 14:24:35 GMT -5
I've said it before in Bischoff related threads, he never hid what turned him on Tony so there's no need to speculate. It was the criticisms of Ted Turner/WCW in press conferences,interviews etc.
Whether you think Eric's response has been OTT is a different matter but that was when he began critiquing AEW/Tony more.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 29, 2024 14:25:56 GMT -5
And don't misunderstand me. If there was an easy way to implement it in any profession without coming off as draconian, I'd want a decent social media policy of how people talk about stuff or address stuff or whatever. The problem is, that stuff would cross so many lines, it'd be almost not worth doing. I'd ban worked shoots, though, very few of them ever look good on social media. And hey, would I rather TK not tweet at people about stuff? Sure, absolutely. That's not the world we live in, though especially with the genie out of the bottle and you need to use it as a promotional tool as much as anything else. The wider point is that, I'd say, 85% of the stuff that happens on Twitter, Instagram etc matters so little and are blown up so much, it feels like a gigantic waste of time in comparison to some of the stuff that does happen that should be dealt with on these platforms like cyber bullying, protecting younger users from various things (even parents) or the various rules that protect the wrong crowd who talk on there. It just feels utter nonsense. And there are people on Social Media like "Oh, I can't support AEW because of TK's tweets". That's your line? There are SpeakingOut accused performing for all companies and the biggest one in the world might be involved in something that could destroy the reputation of the industry to the point of no return and that's your boundary?! Yeah, like if your line for not watching AEW is because they employ a sexpest like Ric Flair or don't like how Will Ospreay enabled his shitty friends in BritWres, that's at least something I can understand and think is reasonable. If those things are okay, but the owner makes dorky tweets every so often is the line that must not be crossed, something is wrong with you.
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Post by markymark on Mar 29, 2024 14:44:20 GMT -5
It's amazing how Tony Khan makes people so upset and deranged simply by his mere existence that they have now resorted to trying to white knight ERIC BISCHOFF of all people.
Those people were also white knighting Disco Inferno and recently Cornette after Punk referenced his podcast on Monday lmao
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 29, 2024 15:29:36 GMT -5
It's amazing how Tony Khan makes people so upset and deranged simply by his mere existence that they have now resorted to trying to white knight ERIC BISCHOFF of all people. Those people were also white knighting Disco Inferno and recently Cornette after Punk referenced his podcast on Monday lmao
I can't speak for everyone but I think Tony needs to put his phone down, I like Cornette's podcast and I think Disco Inferno is a twat. So, it's not all black and white.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 29, 2024 15:45:14 GMT -5
Like, Eric once almost treated the World to the sight of him kicking the shit out of Vince McMahon, and it still would only make up for half of what an asshole he is.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 29, 2024 16:33:16 GMT -5
I do definitely find TK cringy and annoying and he strikes me as a real asshole, but I take a lot more umbrage with having people like Flair and Hager and Lethal and Ospreay around than I do him saying stupid shit on Twitter, even if a lot of his Twitter stuff is indeed quite stupid. And it's not like WWE's any better on that even ignoring the Vince stuff when you've got McDonagh and Valhalla on the show every week and Gallus hanging around.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 29, 2024 18:04:57 GMT -5
Saw a thumbnail on YouTube from Bischoff's show that says "DAVE MELTZER is the Reason AEW is TERRIBLE!" So, well, y'know:
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Mar 29, 2024 20:37:40 GMT -5
*Removed the tweet due to offensive language, but it was a person calling TK a really racist slur*
When you deal with people like this on the regular, I can see why a longtime forum poster like Tony would want to hit back. He doesn't need to, and shouldn't for a number of PR related reasons, but I get it.
And lets be real, same dudes white knight for Eric, for Russo, for Corny, all those washed podcasters.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 29, 2024 20:43:08 GMT -5
It's amazing how Tony Khan makes people so upset and deranged simply by his mere existence that they have now resorted to trying to white knight ERIC BISCHOFF of all people. I don’t think he’s making people upset by his mere existence, he just acts like a doofus sometimes
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Post by King Devitt on Mar 30, 2024 0:13:20 GMT -5
It's amazing how Tony Khan makes people so upset and deranged simply by his mere existence that they have now resorted to trying to white knight ERIC BISCHOFF of all people. I don’t think he’s making people upset by his mere existence, he just acts like a doofus sometimes Don't let facts get in the way of hyperbole.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 30, 2024 5:07:06 GMT -5
I've said it before in Bischoff related threads, he never hid what turned him on Tony so there's no need to speculate. It was the criticisms of Ted Turner/WCW in press conferences,interviews etc. Whether you think Eric's response has been OTT is a different matter but that was when he began critiquing AEW/Tony more. Yeah, for whatever flaws Eric has (and he has plenty), he's got a soft spot for Turner. When you consider that Turner is suffering from Lewey Body Dementia and therefore can't defend himself/rebutt Tony's comments, I can see how that'd really bother Eric. It doesn't excuse everything, but I can understand the trigger
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 30, 2024 5:09:56 GMT -5
I've said it before in Bischoff related threads, he never hid what turned him on Tony so there's no need to speculate. It was the criticisms of Ted Turner/WCW in press conferences,interviews etc. Whether you think Eric's response has been OTT is a different matter but that was when he began critiquing AEW/Tony more. Yeah, for whatever flaws Eric has (and he has plenty), he's got a soft spot for Turner. When you consider that Turner is suffering from Lewey Body Dementia and therefore can't defend himself/rebutt Tony's comments, I can see how that'd really bother Eric. It doesn't excuse everything, but I can understand the trigger If this were the case, and I do mean if, I really do wish Eric would have actually sat down with Tony and explained this instead of going full on scorched earth over it But so many of the people in this business have the reservation and composure of a flimsy screen door in a hurricane when faced with an issue that seems to personally impact them, so I'm also not shocked he just went did did go scorched earth immediately, if it were the reason.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 30, 2024 6:30:58 GMT -5
It's amazing how Tony Khan makes people so upset and deranged simply by his mere existence that they have now resorted to trying to white knight ERIC BISCHOFF of all people. Where are these people here? (please don’t say Twitter)
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Post by khali on Mar 30, 2024 9:35:57 GMT -5
It's amazing how Tony Khan makes people so upset and deranged simply by his mere existence that they have now resorted to trying to white knight ERIC BISCHOFF of all people. Where are these people here? (please don’t say Twitter) Why can’t we say Twitter? This is a thread specifically about Twitter interactions.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 30, 2024 9:55:01 GMT -5
It's amazing how Tony Khan makes people so upset and deranged simply by his mere existence that they have now resorted to trying to white knight ERIC BISCHOFF of all people. Where are these people here? (please don’t say Twitter) I think pinning the weight of Eric Bischoff dislike on AEW criticism is white knighting with extra steps, frankly. Dude's done enough things that have had him be disliked for so long that pretending they don't exist is just scrubbing him clean as a side effect.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 30, 2024 9:56:19 GMT -5
Where are these people here? (please don’t say Twitter) Why can’t we say Twitter? This is a thread specifically about Twitter interactions. Half of the threads around here become people complaining about extreme takes people have on Twitter but not here. Makes it hard for people to have reasoned takes that are critical when those types of posts litter the threads.
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