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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 3, 2024 1:14:00 GMT -5
I totally believe her. On the face of it though, I do think a mainstream figure like Rousey naming him in connection with Vince feels a little irresponsible.
Even this thread title. It's technically accurate, but it's connotations are far more serious than what's currently being suggested here.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 3, 2024 1:28:34 GMT -5
Drew Gulak doing this, Brian Kendrick revising the Holocaust, Tozaawa abusing a monkey with other Dragon Gate guys, TJP being a chud, Enzo Amore getting accused of all sorts of stuff, Jack Gallagher being a sex-pest... man, the 205 days were snake bit.
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 3, 2024 1:32:30 GMT -5
Drew Gulak doing this, Brian Kendrick revising the Holocaust, Tozaawa abusing a monkey with other Dragon Gate guys, TJP being a chud, Enzo Amore getting accused of all sorts of stuff, Jack Gallagher being a sex-pest... man, the 205 days were snake bit. No wonder Pac is so miserable.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 3, 2024 1:33:37 GMT -5
Drew Gulak doing this, Brian Kendrick revising the Holocaust, Tozaawa abusing a monkey with other Dragon Gate guys, TJP being a chud, Enzo Amore getting accused of all sorts of stuff, Jack Gallagher being a sex-pest... man, the 205 days were snake bit. Did not know about the Tozawa thing, but don’t forget Rich Swann and Austin Aries.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 3, 2024 1:38:09 GMT -5
Drew Gulak doing this, Brian Kendrick revising the Holocaust, Tozaawa abusing a monkey with other Dragon Gate guys, TJP being a chud, Enzo Amore getting accused of all sorts of stuff, Jack Gallagher being a sex-pest... man, the 205 days were snake bit. Did not know about the Tozawa thing, but don’t forget Rich Swann and Austin Aries. I admittedly do not know Tozawa's personal culpability in the monkey situation, just that Dragon Gate had a monkey as a sort of mascot of their dojo that belonged to CIMA, and someone made a twitter account as the monkey to expose, years back, abuse it had suffered from the dojo. Tozawa and Shingo Takagi were some of the more notable ones present during that time and caught up in it, and CIMA got a lot of flack himself despite I think him not having personally been accused beyond having provided the monkey to begin with and being responsible on that front. And oh yeah, those two, too. Who escaped unscathed? Just Cedric Alexander and Noam Dar, practically?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 3, 2024 1:47:56 GMT -5
Apparently the Briggs stuff was proven false at some point? Which is why it never stuck to him when it originally broke as a story?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 3, 2024 1:52:11 GMT -5
Apparently the Briggs stuff was proven false at some point? Which is why it never stuck to him when it originally broke as a story? It’s apparently the same accuser as with Theory but never really seen any evidence contradicting that. Feels like people just stopped paying attention to it. Admittedly I can kinda see that going either way with that in mind. Could be someone going to the same well twice, but people being repeat victims is hardly unusual.
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Post by Andew9001 on Apr 3, 2024 2:17:08 GMT -5
Did not know about the Tozawa thing, but don’t forget Rich Swann and Austin Aries. I admittedly do not know Tozawa's personal culpability in the monkey situation, just that Dragon Gate had a monkey as a sort of mascot of their dojo that belonged to CIMA, and someone made a twitter account as the monkey to expose, years back, abuse it had suffered from the dojo. Tozawa and Shingo Takagi were some of the more notable ones present during that time and caught up in it, and CIMA got a lot of flack himself despite I think him not having personally been accused beyond having provided the monkey to begin with and being responsible on that front. And oh yeah, those two, too. Who escaped unscathed? Just Cedric Alexander and Noam Dar, practically? Mustafa Ali is considered a pretty nice guy. Buddy Murphy you really don't hear much about him that's bad.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 3, 2024 2:18:57 GMT -5
I really hope Drew didn't actually mean anything by this, because his brother, Rory Gulak (Aka Little Mondo) was already outed as being a super f***ing creep back in the early days of Speaking Out and CHIKARA's subsequent downfall for... this shit.
That whole family might be snakebit.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Apr 3, 2024 5:01:36 GMT -5
This is definitely one of those things where if you're cool/friendly with the person, and 'get' their humour, then it is not a huge deal..
However, if none of the above applies then no, don't do it. Like, in previous work places I have done similar, and similar done to me, with people I was closer too, and it was just the humour, but I would never think to do it with someone who was just a colleague/acquaintance.
It's knowing boundaries, and not assuming that everyone is on the same wavelength. Some people are naturally a bit more 'touchy', but even if you're friends, there is still a line that shouldn't be crossed, without consent.
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Post by Totorob101 on Apr 3, 2024 5:11:14 GMT -5
Why cant men keep their hands off women? Honestly id have the men segregated from the women in these kinds of environments, it might not be "all men" but it is a lot of them that do it which makes an unsafe and unhappy place for women. If indeed true, Drew has to go.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Apr 3, 2024 5:19:49 GMT -5
I admittedly do not know Tozawa's personal culpability in the monkey situation, just that Dragon Gate had a monkey as a sort of mascot of their dojo that belonged to CIMA, and someone made a twitter account as the monkey to expose, years back, abuse it had suffered from the dojo. Tozawa and Shingo Takagi were some of the more notable ones present during that time and caught up in it, and CIMA got a lot of flack himself despite I think him not having personally been accused beyond having provided the monkey to begin with and being responsible on that front. And oh yeah, those two, too. Who escaped unscathed? Just Cedric Alexander and Noam Dar, practically? Mustafa Ali is considered a pretty nice guy. Buddy Murphy you really don't hear much about him that's bad. ironically with a portion of fans I imagine Buddy Murphy is one of the most hated of those cruisers having been engaged to Alexa Bliss in the past and currently engaged to Rhea Ripley
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 3, 2024 6:11:22 GMT -5
Mustafa Ali is considered a pretty nice guy. Buddy Murphy you really don't hear much about him that's bad. ironically with a portion of fans I imagine Buddy Murphy is one of the most hated of those cruisers having been engaged to Alexa Bliss in the past and currently engaged to Rhea Ripley Cathy: "As long as he's willing to share Rhea, he's cool with me." In all honesty, yeah there are probably people who hate him for that reason. Trish's husband got booed at the Hall of Fame, Ryan Cabrera is hated by some for being married to Alexa, Miz was despised by a writer because he was dating Maryse, people hate Renee for being married to Moxley.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Apr 3, 2024 6:23:45 GMT -5
Ronda should have knocked him out.
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Post by Legion on Apr 3, 2024 6:34:30 GMT -5
I dont quite understand what he is alleged to have done, but if it made her feel uncomfortable, then he shouldnt have done it.
Granted, I'm surprised she didnt punch him out for it at the time, or make more of a fuss given who she is, but I dont work there and dont have aa clue what recourse she could have had to raise a grievance.
I dont like Ronda, but I dont believe she's making this story up. I do doubt her sincerity or reasoning given she's trying to sell a book and appears to have left WWE with a massive chip on her shoulder about her time there, but again, if she felt uncomfortable, regardless of his meaning or her motive for revealing it now, she should have been able to raise that at the time and have it taken seriously and dealt with.
I dont think it seems an incident where Drew needs firing or pillorising by the internet, but certainly it is a HR matter and should have been dealt with at the time as such - and it reveals more and more that the way the company was/is run is not like a company should be in some ways, and that needs to change.
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Post by froggyfrog on Apr 3, 2024 6:47:24 GMT -5
Ronda should have knocked him out. That would’ve been an insane overreaction for a coworker flipping the string of your clothes tbqh
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 3, 2024 6:53:41 GMT -5
Ronda should have knocked him out. That would’ve been an insane overreaction for a coworker flipping the string of your clothes tbqh He was grabbing the string that was around her crotch, though. That's a bit more than flipping a string.
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Post by froggyfrog on Apr 3, 2024 6:56:48 GMT -5
That would’ve been an insane overreaction for a coworker flipping the string of your clothes tbqh He was grabbing the string that was around her crotch, though. That's a bit more than flipping a string. So the solution is even more serious workplace assault? Sounds like a great way to turn yourself into the villain of the story
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2024 7:36:12 GMT -5
He was grabbing the string that was around her crotch, though. That's a bit more than flipping a string. So the solution is even more serious workplace assault? Sounds like a great way to turn yourself into the villain of the story Real stories don't have 'the villain' What it might have done is made it into a story containing *only* villains but basically everyone is a villain these f***ing days, especially in wrestling
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2024 7:51:42 GMT -5
And also, if more men who touched women - even in a 'minor' way like this apparently was - without their consent got punched as hard as Ronda Rousey can punch someone the first time, maybe they'd, I dunno, not gain the confidence to do worse to women in the future like so many do?
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