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Post by avenger on Apr 3, 2024 12:17:13 GMT -5
I will say, I’ve shaken a lot of hands. The only ways that you’d possibly get to someone’s crotch to do that is a) if you’re really close and one person doesn’t respond to the handshake or b) you’re in a Carry On film, you’re Kenneth Williams and the person you’re trying to shake hands with is Barbera Windsor. c) You're shaking hands with Mae Young's newborn. I'm a lot more inclined to believe Ronda Rousey's version, now that I've heard Gulak's version.
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Post by XIII on Apr 3, 2024 12:17:42 GMT -5
This dude missed the handshake and almost touched the promised land…good thing he didn’t miss the shake with 2 Cold Scorpio.
To be completely serious if he had just said something like “this is not what happened both Ronda, myself, and everyone that witnessed it know what actually happened.” He would be a lot more believable. Obviously I wasn’t there and don’t know what happened…but I do know that I’ve never missed a handshake and touched someone’s drawstring/pelvis/genital area…especially when they’re shorter than me already.
Gulak should be fired for tellin such a stupid story. lol
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 3, 2024 12:21:56 GMT -5
c) You're shaking hands with Mae Young's newborn.. Now that’s technically a question since we saw the son in canon. If you went to shake him, would that be a handshake or a high 5?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 3, 2024 12:25:41 GMT -5
Cest ne pas un it, Chief.
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Post by crowley1986 on Apr 3, 2024 12:29:56 GMT -5
Sounds like a curb your enthusiasm episode/premise
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 3, 2024 12:30:13 GMT -5
c) You're shaking hands with Mae Young's newborn.. Now that’s technically a question since we saw the son in canon. If you went to shake him, would that be a handshake or a high 5? Hell, what parts of him count as sexual harassment if you touch them?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 3, 2024 12:31:39 GMT -5
I think the most confusing part of this is that, like, people were kind of already prescribing to him the much more plausible explanation that it was just a poorly conceived joke he could've done to anyone, and instead he opted to go for the LOLWACKYSLAPSTICK explanation. "I don't remember the specific incident but this is a thing people do as a joke sometimes, I apologize if it came across as inappropriate or intrusive," would've done his image more good.
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Post by Error on Apr 3, 2024 12:32:36 GMT -5
Okay, I'm really outta touch because the drawstring on my pants is usually hips to belly button area, not where I'd consider the crotch. Then again I'm fast and usually trying to cover a lot more.
That said, don't touch anyone that you don't have permission to.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 3, 2024 12:34:32 GMT -5
I think the most confusing part of this is that, like, people were kind of already prescribing to him the much more plausible explanation that it was just a poorly conceived joke he could've done to anyone, and instead he opted to go for the LOLWACKYSLAPSTICK explanation. "I don't remember the specific incident but this is a thing people do as a joke sometimes, I apologize if it came across as inappropriate or intrusive," would've done his image more good. Yeah, exactly. It wouldn’t do him much good, it would still expose some of the weird Men’s Club tendencies but it’d at least be more believable that someone would think that’d be appropriate behavior when it wasn’t. Instead, either Drew’s protecting his ass for no good reason or he’s terrible at handshakes. Neither are great with one being worse.
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Post by Viking Hall on Apr 3, 2024 12:34:38 GMT -5
If I'm honest, I can't really understand what it is he's supposed to have done. It doesn't sound like he's pulled the string out, which would be obviously intentional and I can't really see the point in just grabbing them purposefully for no reason just to let go of them, which even in Rondas version sort of sounds like what he's done.
So, I'm kind of siding with it being one of those awful, awkward human malfunction moments that keep you awake years after from cringing that we've all had.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Apr 3, 2024 12:35:26 GMT -5
Ok? until then, let’s not be quick to cast him out? Could have been a misunderstanding, an accident and Drew truly didn’t mean to harm. You have to offer the same benefit of the doubt to her considering we all don’t know. Unless someone else speaks up it’s another “he said, she said”. All im saying. Yeah, that’s how a lot of these go. “well, the man gave his side of the story. Case closed.” His side of the story isn’t the truth automatically. He could be telling the truth. So could she. We don’t know but assuming the man’s refutation is correct is always a frustrating response from people. Granted one side being Ronda Rousey does make this a little muddier, but I’m usually of the mind that the accuser is usually being truthful.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 3, 2024 12:41:10 GMT -5
Drews's explanation is plausible, but that doesn't necessarily mean that a) he's telling he truth or b) he didn't make Ronda uncomfortable.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Apr 3, 2024 12:44:56 GMT -5
Seems to me like Ronda's issue is less with what Gulak allegedly did, and more with the fact that the backstage culture at WWE was such that no one even acknowledged it as intrusive/abnormal.
Yeah, it's fairly innocuous even if it went down exactly as Ronda claims it did (which seems far more likely than Gulak finding himself in a real-life episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm), but if they weren't more than loose acquaintances it's definitely not cool to grab at a coworker's crotch area no matter for what reason you're doing it.
Like, if I were to walk down the hallway right now and flick a female coworker's drawstring/belt I would definitely get fired. And if I saw someone else do it, I would be like "what the f***, man"?
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Apr 3, 2024 12:55:57 GMT -5
So best case scenario, this is an awkward, Larry David Moment. Or Drew came up with a fake excuse that's so bad that it sounds believable, and he actually is perv of some sort.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Apr 3, 2024 12:56:24 GMT -5
Hot take: I'm at the point where despite perhaps having a point in some of her complaints, I'm tiring of hearing from Ronda. She's getting into Ryback territory, and parts of it smack of "since this is after the Vince accusations, everyone will automatically be on my side!" With a touch of "Buy my book!"
I was like this ever since I heard the things she believes in way back when, TBF.
To be more accurate, though, she's maybe more like 2019 ACH than Ryback, actually. ACH DID have a point at first, but just went off the deep end after and it got annoying. (waits patiently for Ronda's "attack Shad Gaspard" moment...)
Disclaimer: I AM NOT DEFENDING ANYTHING UNSAVORY IN THE WWE, OR ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.
If it did happen it's a shame of course and I can't condone any of it. I guess I just don't like negativity, despite partaking in some from time to time.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 3, 2024 13:02:27 GMT -5
Hot take: I'm at the point where despite perhaps having a point in some of her complaints, I'm tiring of hearing from Ronda. She's getting into Ryback territory, and parts of it smack of "since this is after the Vince accusations, everyone will automatically be on my side!" I was like this ever since I heard the things she believes in, TBF. To be more accurate, though, she's maybe more like 2019 ACH than Ryback, actually. ACH DID have a point at first, but just went off the deep end after and it got annoying. (waits patiently for Ronda's "attack Shad Gaspard" moment...) Disclaimer: I AM NOT DEFENDING ANYTHING UNSAVORY IN THE WWE, OR ANYWHERE, ANYTIME. If it did happen it's a shame of course and I can't condone any of it. I guess I just don't like negativity, despite partaking in some from time to time. Issue at hand aside, that's kinda where I'm at.
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Post by bearned on Apr 3, 2024 13:04:01 GMT -5
Gulaks response to this comes across as so utterly bizarre that it must be true. Like I can’t believe that someone would make that up and think ‘yeah this’ll take the heat off me’.
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Post by khali on Apr 3, 2024 13:39:16 GMT -5
Hot take: I'm at the point where despite perhaps having a point in some of her complaints, I'm tiring of hearing from Ronda. She's getting into Ryback territory, and parts of it smack of "since this is after the Vince accusations, everyone will automatically be on my side!" With a touch of "Buy my book!" I was like this ever since I heard the things she believes in way back when, TBF. To be more accurate, though, she's maybe more like 2019 ACH than Ryback, actually. ACH DID have a point at first, but just went off the deep end after and it got annoying. (waits patiently for Ronda's "attack Shad Gaspard" moment...) Disclaimer: I AM NOT DEFENDING ANYTHING UNSAVORY IN THE WWE, OR ANYWHERE, ANYTIME. If it did happen it's a shame of course and I can't condone any of it. I guess I just don't like negativity, despite partaking in some from time to time. I’ve never liked basically anything Ronda has said or done, but to counterpoint, this is one time where she’s doing something of value. The stance of WWE has been that Vince was the problem and he’s gone now, so this is all in the past. But I think there’s important questions about the culture of the company as a whole that may not have been solely with him. Ronda is a recent enough employee that she can talk about that without the constrains of currently being employed, and is a big of enough name that what she says will get traction.
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Post by Totorob101 on Apr 3, 2024 13:50:37 GMT -5
I always make it a point to believe any victim of any kind of assault so i believe Ronda far more then his awful excuse. Why would she even come out with something like this for no reason if she was lying? I know this sounds harsh and a bit controversial but with this kind of thing i believe in guilty until proven innocent because so many men have done this for a long long time now with no punishment. Ronda and other women should be fully supported in what they say so i hope Drew has a better reason for what he did as what he has just said does not wash.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Apr 3, 2024 13:54:43 GMT -5
Ronda being a big name is exactly what makes her such an important voice right now.
She doesn't really need WWE to stay relevant or successful. We can argue whether her intentions are entirely virtuous all day, but her saying the women aren't being treated well still brings a lot of eyes to the issue that possibly wouldn't have paid attention otherwise.
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