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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 21, 2024 16:53:34 GMT -5
The Superbowl will have tons more money in ads then the World Cup. Americans love adverts and the whole Superbowl ads is a massive thing. The World Cup final might have a bigger global audience but its spread out across every country and each countries specific channel so not like all eyes are on one channel. And in the UK at least as an example, most people watch it on BBC which don't have adverts No doubt that in the US the ad space in the superbowl would be more valuable. But every country that shows the World Cup final will also be commanding a high price for ad time during their broadcast of one match. One match, that bears repeating. The World Cup has sixty four (or thereabouts) matches. Some of those group matches probably have a higher global audience than the Super Bowl. Admittedly for the following, I just did a quick Google search but apparently the Super Bowl makes on average $750m. The last World Cup made $6b. I just don’t see how globally, the Super Bowl is a more valuable brand than the World Cup or the Olympic Games. The 64 games is why the valuation went the way it did. It's not total, grossing revenue; the Superbowl is one game worth that much money, and the World Cup and Olympics are being spread out in value across each individual day. Value here is not in terms of the total amount it'd be worth to buy or whatever, but the idea that the licensing or sponsorship revenue is more expensive for a much shorter period. The total money paid for World Cup ads can be higher, but the value per minute of that time is lower becacuse it's paying for those ads to play on those many games over many days instead of one single commercial at halftime. For similar reasons, the list has the Rose Bowl ahead of the World Series and the NBA finals, because that's one game versus best-of-seven series.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 21, 2024 17:36:11 GMT -5
No doubt that in the US the ad space in the superbowl would be more valuable. But every country that shows the World Cup final will also be commanding a high price for ad time during their broadcast of one match. One match, that bears repeating. The World Cup has sixty four (or thereabouts) matches. Some of those group matches probably have a higher global audience than the Super Bowl. Admittedly for the following, I just did a quick Google search but apparently the Super Bowl makes on average $750m. The last World Cup made $6b. I just don’t see how globally, the Super Bowl is a more valuable brand than the World Cup or the Olympic Games. I don't think either of us are saying that the Superbowl is bigger. Just that the airtime for an advert is. No companies are spending millions hiring celebrities just for an ad that will be shown during the World Cup, after all. I doubt any channels are charging $7 million for a 30-second ad during half time either. Who even watches the ads during half time in a football (soccer) match? It's only 15 minutes - just enough for a bathroom break and to get a drink. I actually never even mentioned advertising in my original post. I just said that the World Cup was a bigger brand globally based on the combined factors. Back to the topic at hand, I’m surprised to see AEW valued that highly. Not saying they’re not a big name but I never thought they were quite that valuable. But I’m not exactly a source on the subject.
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 23, 2024 0:57:27 GMT -5
Out of curiosity I wonder how much Tony Khan spent to get AEW started. Like is this 2 Billion profit, did he spend a Billion and it's made a Billion since it started, or did he break even (still impressive)?
I didn't read further so this could be net worth. Profits to date. I'm sleepy.
And as someone who never got into MMA, and hasn't seen anyone new they recognize from the brand in awhile, it's amazing they're doing almost twice the business of WWE.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 23, 2024 1:41:41 GMT -5
Out of curiosity I wonder how much Tony Khan spent to get AEW started. Like is this 2 Billion profit, did he spend a Billion and it's made a Billion since it started, or did he break even (still impressive)? I didn't read further so this could be net worth. Profits to date. I'm sleepy. And as someone who never got into MMA, and hasn't seen anyone new they recognize from the brand in awhile, it's amazing they're doing almost twice the business of WWE. I think starting AEW ground floor wise he said it started out as a loan from his father but never had to ask for any extra money since, only added into whatever he was given or taken from it in turn So it's hard to say HOW much exactly, but the added revenue and profit it definitely off of estimations with Warner's deals, partnerships, consistently high demo'd ratings, talent acquired, merch, tickets pushed, and overall brand synergy I would imagine making it a really nice estimation. I imagine if and when we get the new Warner deal this could raise the profit margins and estimations even higher.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 23, 2024 2:17:35 GMT -5
Out of curiosity I wonder how much Tony Khan spent to get AEW started. Like is this 2 Billion profit, did he spend a Billion and it's made a Billion since it started, or did he break even (still impressive)? I didn't read further so this could be net worth. Profits to date. I'm sleepy. And as someone who never got into MMA, and hasn't seen anyone new they recognize from the brand in awhile, it's amazing they're doing almost twice the business of WWE. It'd only be any kind of profit if he sold AEW, which he isn't going to. $2bn is an estimation of what Forbes think the company is worth were it to be sold today. It's not actual money to do with the company. How much has Tony spent on AEW so far? Nobody has any idea. Although you can probably get a basic idea by looking at the financials of any start-up sports league - huge losses to begin with and then slowly building towards breaking even.
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 23, 2024 2:50:59 GMT -5
Out of curiosity I wonder how much Tony Khan spent to get AEW started. Like is this 2 Billion profit, did he spend a Billion and it's made a Billion since it started, or did he break even (still impressive)? I didn't read further so this could be net worth. Profits to date. I'm sleepy. And as someone who never got into MMA, and hasn't seen anyone new they recognize from the brand in awhile, it's amazing they're doing almost twice the business of WWE. It'd only be any kind of profit if he sold AEW, which he isn't going to. $2bn is an estimation of what Forbes think the company is worth were it to be sold today. It's not actual money to do with the company. How much has Tony spent on AEW so far? Nobody has any idea. Although you can probably get a basic idea by looking at the financials of any start-up sports league - huge losses to begin with and then slowly building towards breaking even. Ah okay, makes sense, thanks for explaining it to my tired brain.
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