AEW Civil War Thread

[Gerard Gerard]

Jul 22, 2024 18:36:59 GMT -5 CeilingFan said:

There are no stakes involved for Blood And Guts this Wednesday, so it seems like this war might last until All In.

Not disagreeing, but it's starting to feel like we may pivot to Bucks/FTR at All In as something of a quiet reboot for the tag division.

[MagPieChart]

Jul 23, 2024 2:48:17 GMT -5 Gerard Gerard said:

Jul 22, 2024 18:36:59 GMT -5 CeilingFan said:

There are no stakes involved for Blood And Guts this Wednesday, so it seems like this war might last until All In.

Not disagreeing, but it's starting to feel like we may pivot to Bucks/FTR at All In as something of a quiet reboot for the tag division.

I try to keep my reactions understated seeing as how the internet is filled with people who give the impression they'd flense themselves alive if say Takeshita doesn't win the AEW title immediately.

That stuff is pure concentrated cringe.

Though if they go to yet again continue the FTR/Bucks feud I'd literally perch myself into a pine tree and scream wordlessly at all passers-by.  

I'm not sure when I would stop.

[Tom Turkey]

Jul 22, 2024 18:36:59 GMT -5 CeilingFan said:

There are no stakes involved for Blood And Guts this Wednesday, so it seems like this war might last until All In.

The whole takeover thing has been oddly scaled back, with the Elite not really doing abusive authority figure things other than small favors for various heels.

[dbsot]

The tag division desperately needs Mark Davis back. I know that might sound silly, but Aussie Open is AEW's best shot at a newer/younger tag team to move the division beyond just the Bucks and FTR. If Davis can't make it back, then maybe break Fletcher away from Callis and pair him with someone like Tommy Billington.

With that said, I don't see the Bucks facing FTR at All In again. It is more likely that it will be a multi-team match. The Acclaimed are still owed a title match and the Lucha Bros are always in the mix.

[Hayabusa]

Jul 23, 2024 10:38:45 GMT -5 Tom Turkey said:

Jul 22, 2024 18:36:59 GMT -5 CeilingFan said:

There are no stakes involved for Blood And Guts this Wednesday, so it seems like this war might last until All In.

The whole takeover thing has been oddly scaled back, with the Elite not really doing abusive authority figure things other than small favors for various heels.

The only time it really felt like a power struggle was during those weeks TK was off selling the neck injury. The EVPs were messing with the schedule, had their own custom intro to the show, were interfering in other storylines, and were basically bosses-from-hell.

Since then, the whole storyline has felt ill-constructed. Why were there no kayfabe punishments for The Elite for almost breaking Tony's neck? Exactly what power do/don't they have with the 100% owner of the company back on the road?

When The Elite tried to hand Jack Perry the TNT Title, Chris Daniels came out and said nope. Daniels also vetoed the BBG Freebird-ing the trios belts, so the Fallen Angel seems to have more power than the Bucks on-screen.

So it leaves the question, what exactly are they fighting for at Blood & Guts? Maybe they should have let Jen Pepperman write this angle, she'd probably have it at a point where it feels like something is on the line.

[Tom Turkey]

The way the Elite story has gone done is like if the nWo wasn’t treated as a company wide threat to WCW and they just messed around with only one or two segments per week.

[CeilingFan]

Jul 23, 2024 10:57:13 GMT -5 Tom Turkey said:

The way the Elite story has gone done is like if the nWo wasn’t treated as a company wide threat to WCW and they just messed around with only one or two segments per week.

To use a comic-book analogy : I was expecting a company-wide crossover, instead of a self-contained story.

[bdon]

May 9, 2024 0:36:26 GMT -5 bdon said:

Welp, they made it all of 3 weeks before Tony went into goofy booking and ruined the entire f***ing angle for me. The big bad Bucks are running rampant on AEW tv, and the best AEW could offer to represent themselves is FTR, Kingston, and Bryan. How very “AEW”. Yeah, this really feels like changing the world.

Or is that “changing the channel”?

Like I said, the minute Tony got his hands on the booking of this, it was DOA. Just like the big, awesome Elite reunion last year.

Tony fails to capitalize every time he has a hot angle.

[MagPieChart]

Jul 23, 2024 10:45:29 GMT -5 Hayabusa said:

Jul 23, 2024 10:38:45 GMT -5 Tom Turkey said:

The whole takeover thing has been oddly scaled back, with the Elite not really doing abusive authority figure things other than small favors for various heels.

The only time it really felt like a power struggle was during those weeks TK was off selling the neck injury. The EVPs were messing with the schedule, had their own custom intro to the show, were interfering in other storylines, and were basically bosses-from-hell.

Since then, the whole storyline has felt ill-constructed. Why were there no kayfabe punishments for The Elite for almost breaking Tony's neck? Exactly what power do/don't they have with the 100% owner of the company back on the road?

When The Elite tried to hand Jack Perry the TNT Title, Chris Daniels came out and said nope. Daniels also vetoed the BBG Freebird-ing the trios belts, so the Fallen Angel seems to have more power than the Bucks on-screen.

So it leaves the question, what exactly are they fighting for at Blood & Guts? Maybe they should have let Jen Pepperman write this angle, she'd probably have it at a point where it feels like something is on the line.

Well, what would be solved with The Elite getting directly punished for putting their hands on Khan?

It's not like The Bucks can be fired so I'd expect if TK were to bring down the hammer on The Bucks and The Elite, there's nothing to stop them from just kicking his ass again.

....though I would think the one thing that'd stop The Elite from just constantly going after TK would be the fact the rest of the roster (or at least Team AEW) would kick their asses with TK shielding them from The Elite firing them?

I'd assume Team AEW winning B&G is legit about getting The Elite to stop ****ing with everybody whether it's on the production side and cutting propaganda pieces against them or in the ring with the heel beatdowns, and to ultimately demonstrate there is an AEW outside of the dingleberries that are The Bucks and Friends.

[jm]

Jul 23, 2024 10:23:10 GMT -5 MagPieChart said:

Jul 23, 2024 2:48:17 GMT -5 Gerard Gerard said:

Not disagreeing, but it's starting to feel like we may pivot to Bucks/FTR at All In as something of a quiet reboot for the tag division.

I try to keep my reactions understated seeing as how the internet is filled with people who give the impression they'd flense themselves alive if say Takeshita doesn't win the AEW title immediately.

That stuff is pure concentrated cringe.

Though if they go to yet again continue the FTR/Bucks feud I'd literally perch myself into a pine tree and scream wordlessly at all passers-by.  

I'm not sure when I would stop.

Make sure to save some space on that pine tree for me for if/when that happens cause I'll be joining right along with you.

[Mr Mario Mario]

Jul 23, 2024 10:38:45 GMT -5 Tom Turkey said:

Jul 22, 2024 18:36:59 GMT -5 CeilingFan said:

There are no stakes involved for Blood And Guts this Wednesday, so it seems like this war might last until All In.

The whole takeover thing has been oddly scaled back, with the Elite not really doing abusive authority figure things other than small favors for various heels.

Yeah that’s how it seems to have went

Less Civil War, more minor inconvenience

[MagPieChart]

Jul 23, 2024 14:20:28 GMT -5 jm said:

Jul 23, 2024 10:23:10 GMT -5 MagPieChart said:

I try to keep my reactions understated seeing as how the internet is filled with people who give the impression they'd flense themselves alive if say Takeshita doesn't win the AEW title immediately.

That stuff is pure concentrated cringe.

Though if they go to yet again continue the FTR/Bucks feud I'd literally perch myself into a pine tree and scream wordlessly at all passers-by.  

I'm not sure when I would stop.

Make sure to save some space on that pine tree for me for if/when that happens cause I'll be joining right along with you.

The sad thing is, it's not as if a FTR/Bucks match would be bad.

I'm sure they'll add some stipulation where it'll be multiple falls/inside a shark tank/during an action movie car chase/in a sword fight going up a spiral staircase (at RJ City's suggestion)/etc. and it'll be fine.

It's just....yeesh.

People crap on The Acclaimed but I'm totally fine with seeing The Acclaimed wrestle a match outside of their usual environment and see if they can step up.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

So that maybe the best Blood and Guts the company has ever had, and Team AEW won after Jack Perry almost got set on fire again, pretty good wrench to throw into The Elite's side of this story

I don't mind this being a more contained storyline. A company wide takeover has been done before. They all have belts, they're all thriving, and that's what they want. They've been going after the right people, the top dogs, the world champions, and have taken responsibility for injuring multiple talents, I think the pacing for this has been good, factions don't all have to come out like gangbusters, and frankly if The Elite were around every segment of the show, people would be complaining about oversaturation just as much imo

[CeilingFan]

After last night's victory, this is the way I feel about AEW :

[CeilingFan]

With all of this talk about Shane McMahon, he could be revealed as the one who convinced the Young Bucks to attack Tony Khan!

[bdon]

Jul 24, 2024 21:14:23 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

So that maybe the best Blood and Guts the company has ever had, and Team AEW won after Jack Perry almost got set on fire again, pretty good wrench to throw into The Elite's side of this story

I don't mind this being a more contained storyline. A company wide takeover has been done before. They all have belts, they're all thriving, and that's what they want. They've been going after the right people, the top dogs, the world champions, and have taken responsibility for injuring multiple talents, I think the pacing for this has been good, factions don't all have to come out like gangbusters, and frankly if The Elite were around every segment of the show, people would be complaining about oversaturation just as much imo

And still the company lacks a big, all encompassing story.

Spinning the wheels of the AEW Saturday Night Live skit show.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jul 31, 2024 13:35:14 GMT -5 bdon said:

Jul 24, 2024 21:14:23 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

So that maybe the best Blood and Guts the company has ever had, and Team AEW won after Jack Perry almost got set on fire again, pretty good wrench to throw into The Elite's side of this story

I don't mind this being a more contained storyline. A company wide takeover has been done before. They all have belts, they're all thriving, and that's what they want. They've been going after the right people, the top dogs, the world champions, and have taken responsibility for injuring multiple talents, I think the pacing for this has been good, factions don't all have to come out like gangbusters, and frankly if The Elite were around every segment of the show, people would be complaining about oversaturation just as much imo

And still the company lacks a big, all encompassing story.

Spinning the wheels of the AEW Saturday Night Live skit show.

Yeah man we get it, you hate AEW and the way they do things. I'll be over here, continuing to enjoy it and the storylines they're doing, you do you.

[Nosnorb]

Why exactly should I cheer for Allin at Wembley? Dude has set Jack on fire, threatened to set him on fire again during Blood and Guts, and talked about how nobody would miss Perry if he left AEW and that it would be better if he stayed out of the company.

Meanwhile, The Scapegoat is willing to put it all on the line for Taco Bell. Why should I want Darby to put him in a coffin?

[Kalmia]

Plus, Darby Allin skinned a muppet for that coat he keeps wearing so he's definitely a bad guy. I'm supporting Krusty's nephew.

[jm]

Aug 16, 2024 9:52:10 GMT -5 Nosnorb said:

Why exactly should I cheer for Allin at Wembley? Dude has set Jack on fire, threatened to set him on fire again during Blood and Guts, and talked about how nobody would miss Perry if he left AEW and that it would be better if he stayed out of the company.

Meanwhile, The Scapegoat is willing to put it all on the line for Taco Bell. Why should I want Darby to put him in a coffin?

Also I just now remembered this, but Darby buried Jurassic Express one of the most beloved tag teams in the history of the company. And Darby was whining that Jurassic Express, a babyface team, was more popular than he was. Like you said, why should I cheer for Darby over Perry?