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Post by thechase on May 4, 2024 11:01:04 GMT -5
That's another thing actually - re use old stuff. If you aren't a published artist with a fanbase keeping track, nobody knows if you did something before already. Go back and cannibalise good lines from old things you don't like any more too I delve into this sometimes, hell even when you are a published writer this tends to crop up a lot (Furmanisms as TF fans call it)
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 4, 2024 14:55:26 GMT -5
You definitely aren't the only one. Do you have to write the start first? Can you get your eye in writing a fun later scene that you can update later? I definitely don't have to start at the start. I just fear throwing readers into a spot that is already too far ahead or not far enough ahead in the world that confuses or bores them. But you can write the actual start later and insert it once you get your juices flowing on a middle part
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Post by dirtyoldman on May 4, 2024 16:51:50 GMT -5
So I figured I'd try writing the first five pages of something and the LAST seven pages of something, and leave the middle for much later. I've actually written a few books where in the process I've written the ending long before I got there. It was easier to keep writing knowing there was a point I could get too and have it finished. The only problem is I had to come up with a reason why a character who appeared in the middle wasn't there in the finale, but I got it to work.
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Post by thechase on May 5, 2024 1:13:02 GMT -5
So I figured I'd try writing the first five pages of something and the LAST seven pages of something, and leave the middle for much later. I've actually written a few books where in the process I've written the ending long before I got there. It was easier to keep writing knowing there was a point I could get too and have it finished. The only problem is I had to come up with a reason why a character who appeared in the middle wasn't there in the finale, but I got it to work. As long as you had the time and the space to give them a satisfying close to their story, that's great. It's when you have page count constraints that it can get a little more challenging. Say, if you were only writing a 20 page script
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Post by john84 on May 5, 2024 7:10:49 GMT -5
I restrict myself to a 15-page per chapter script which can be challenging especially when you're making alterations to your script.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 5, 2024 8:24:33 GMT -5
It’s from the POV of a music producer, but whenever I’m doing anything creative Iand especially if it’s simply going forward with an idea, I keep in the back of my mind something Rick Rubin said in a 60 Minutes interview about the need to develop things like diary entries. Think about what thrills you first and then tweak it into something coherent, because just focusing on what you *assume* an audience wants and aiming to please other people first and foremost is something of a ticket to writer’s block hell.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on May 5, 2024 14:31:58 GMT -5
starting to get back into this, "acquired" final draft, and testing it out got a scene done and it looks proper like when i was doing my video production course years ago, i wrote pretty close to proper script format, so at LEAST i know what i'm doing usually i put everything down descriptively, which helps mightily for dialogue too, so i have an idea what characters says i could write like that AND script in parallel but it's the format i'm interested in, so i can make it for myself in open office writer now i just need to learn open office writer ... HEY i can put in a right tab ... yeah it's been a while all i need now is to have 864 hour days! It’s from the POV of a music producer, but whenever I’m doing anything creative Iand especially if it’s simply going forward with an idea, I keep in the back of my mind something Rick Rubin said in a 60 Minutes interview about the need to develop things like diary entries. Think about what thrills you first and then tweak it into something coherent, because just focusing on what you *assume* an audience wants and aiming to please other people first and foremost is something of a ticket to writer’s block hell. NEVER assume what audience wants to see or read, it ain't their story to tell!
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Post by john84 on May 5, 2024 14:34:46 GMT -5
When it comes to dialogue, outside of the main characters, I guess that's maybe because I'm so used to writing for those characters? I tend to have trouble writing dialogue that not only makes sense but, well, human lol.
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Post by ayumidah on May 5, 2024 16:31:39 GMT -5
I keep getting interrupted while writing a love scene. I now know why I don't write them often.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on May 15, 2024 18:59:08 GMT -5
wrote six pages in the last few hours, enjoying every word i put down, certainly not the final drafting of my story! when i finally show it to someone, they'll tell me so many things that will be wrong with it ... probably not putting ENOUGH into the action part and i'll need to put in the descripts of the first mention of the characters too
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on May 15, 2024 22:44:29 GMT -5
I'll need to start pondering NaNoWriMo more soon. I know November is still six months away, but I always feel better when I have a general plot somewhat figured out by October.
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Post by thechase on May 16, 2024 8:42:31 GMT -5
Only two pages left to go in my long-form comic book project presently projected for 2025. Earlier in this thread I had talked about working my way backwards from end to middle and beginning to middle, and the mists finally cleared on that all important middle.
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