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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 18, 2024 0:53:31 GMT -5
I feel like there’s this irrational hate for lyra but hhh isn’t helping by pissing off the mega fans of another section of wrestlers who Lyra is getting the jump on. So what the f*** is he meant to do? Just about every wrestler has mega fans that demand their faves win LITERALLY every single time and look strong LITERALLY every single time, because they choose to absorb losses as a personal attack on that wrestler and their fandom, thus an attack on themselves. People always ask “Why always Natalya?”… BECAUSE NATALYA’S THE ONLY PERSON THAT’S ALLOWED TO f***IN’ LOSE, YOU DENSE SANDWICHES jesus christ man, breathe
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jun 18, 2024 0:55:11 GMT -5
So what the f*** is he meant to do? Just about every wrestler has mega fans that demand their faves win LITERALLY every single time and look strong LITERALLY every single time, because they choose to absorb losses as a personal attack on that wrestler and their fandom, thus an attack on themselves. People always ask “Why always Natalya?”… BECAUSE NATALYA’S THE ONLY PERSON THAT’S ALLOWED TO f***IN’ LOSE, YOU DENSE SANDWICHES jesus christ man, breathe I’m nearing 20 YEARS of this shit, man. It wears away at you. 😳
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 18, 2024 0:57:57 GMT -5
jesus christ man, breathe I’m nearing 20 YEARS of this shit, man. It wears away at you. 😳 I get what you’re saying but I promise you, to 99% of us it truly does not matter. It’ll be fine whatever results happen. We’re just complaining about a show like any other show. What I would say is all of this comes down to if a woman isn’t a joshi, she’s gonna be seen as already lesser than to a group of fans in wwe right now. It’s just a fact. If you wanna take out your frustration, speak with them who are acting like lyra is bastion booger or something Lmao
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jun 18, 2024 1:01:50 GMT -5
I’m nearing 20 YEARS of this shit, man. It wears away at you. 😳 I get what you’re saying but I promise you, to 99% of us it truly does not matter. It’ll be fine whatever results happen. We’re just complaining about a show like any other show. What I would say is all of this comes down to if a woman isn’t a joshi, she’s gonna be seen as already lesser than to a group of fans in wwe right now. It’s just a fact. If you wanna take out your frustration, speak with them who are acting like lyra is bastion booger or something Lmao I’VE f***IN’ TRIED!
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 18, 2024 1:04:21 GMT -5
I get what you’re saying but I promise you, to 99% of us it truly does not matter. It’ll be fine whatever results happen. We’re just complaining about a show like any other show. What I would say is all of this comes down to if a woman isn’t a joshi, she’s gonna be seen as already lesser than to a group of fans in wwe right now. It’s just a fact. If you wanna take out your frustration, speak with them who are acting like lyra is bastion booger or something Lmao I’VE f***IN’ TRIED!I know, I remember. same shit goes on the second Lyra shows up and it sucks as a lyra fan but sometimes you gotta just be like keep talking shit about Lyra and she’s gonna lay an egg on your house. or as doo doo put it.. that too. it’s silly it’s goofy I am sure the intense fanship can be annoying but most of us in here are just vibing.
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Post by asuka007 on Jun 18, 2024 1:07:36 GMT -5
I’m still surprised they did not go with Liv vs. Lyra? That seems like the most logical feud to do.
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Post by gl83 on Jun 18, 2024 1:21:23 GMT -5
I’m nearing 20 YEARS of this shit, man. It wears away at you. 😳 I get what you’re saying but I promise you, to 99% of us it truly does not matter. It’ll be fine whatever results happen. We’re just complaining about a show like any other show. What I would say is all of this comes down to if a woman isn’t a joshi, she’s gonna be seen as already lesser than to a group of fans in wwe right now. It’s just a fact. If you wanna take out your frustration, speak with them who are acting like lyra is bastion booger or something Lmao Well you also have the long-suffering Dakota Kai fans, who were hoping for a revamp and reboot over on Raw only to get the exact opposite. You can't blame them. I mean she has been putting in the work, busting her ass and yet she gets jack, dating all the way back to NXT(HHH booking Raquel to go over Dakota is still a sore spot for many of them). What sucks is they protected her with non-finishes against the likes of Becky & Bayley, so it gave the impression to many people and gave them reason to think that she had a push coming her way and......yeah......
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 18, 2024 1:23:15 GMT -5
I get what you’re saying but I promise you, to 99% of us it truly does not matter. It’ll be fine whatever results happen. We’re just complaining about a show like any other show. What I would say is all of this comes down to if a woman isn’t a joshi, she’s gonna be seen as already lesser than to a group of fans in wwe right now. It’s just a fact. If you wanna take out your frustration, speak with them who are acting like lyra is bastion booger or something Lmao Well you also have the long-suffering Dakota Kai fans, who were hoping for a revamp and reboot over on Raw only to get the exact opposite. You can't blame them. I mean she has been putting in the work, busting her ass and yet she gets jack, dating all the way back to NXT(HHH booking Raquel to go over Dakota is still a sore spot for many of them). What sucks is they protected her with non-finishes against the likes of Becky & Bayley, so it gave the impression to many people and gave them reason to think that she had a push coming her way and......yeah...... that’s why tonight was surprising, Dakota and crew losing to those gals is a shock and it comes at a pretty awkward time cause some of the fanbase is already upset
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Jun 18, 2024 1:24:07 GMT -5
I get what you’re saying but I promise you, to 99% of us it truly does not matter. It’ll be fine whatever results happen. We’re just complaining about a show like any other show. What I would say is all of this comes down to if a woman isn’t a joshi, she’s gonna be seen as already lesser than to a group of fans in wwe right now. It’s just a fact. If you wanna take out your frustration, speak with them who are acting like lyra is bastion booger or something Lmao Well you also have the long-suffering Dakota Kai fans, who were hoping for a revamp and reboot over on Raw only to get the exact opposite. You can't blame them. I mean she has been putting in the work, busting her ass and yet she gets jack, dating all the way back to NXT(HHH booking Raquel to go over Dakota is still a sore spot for many of them). What sucks is they protected her with non-finishes against the likes of Becky & Bayley, so it gave the impression to many people and gave them reason to think that she had a push coming her way and......yeah...... I agree 100% that Dakota should've beaten Raquel for the title. It was apparent by then that Raquel as champ was a flop, and I supported them giving her the belt and taking a chance with her.
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Post by gl83 on Jun 18, 2024 1:29:56 GMT -5
Well you also have the long-suffering Dakota Kai fans, who were hoping for a revamp and reboot over on Raw only to get the exact opposite. You can't blame them. I mean she has been putting in the work, busting her ass and yet she gets jack, dating all the way back to NXT(HHH booking Raquel to go over Dakota is still a sore spot for many of them). What sucks is they protected her with non-finishes against the likes of Becky & Bayley, so it gave the impression to many people and gave them reason to think that she had a push coming her way and......yeah...... that’s why tonight was surprising, Dakota and crew losing to those gals is a shock and it comes at a pretty awkward time cause some of the fanbase is already upset Yeah, it's one thing to lose to Top Stars like a Bianca, Becky or Bayley.....but the KCs...yeah.....no surprise the fans are irate and upset.
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Post by gritizen on Jun 18, 2024 1:39:52 GMT -5
Losing to the Kayden & Katana shouldn't be an issue, they are former tag team champs. The problem is the booking. They are tag team champs with 0 credibility. This is the first time they've won a match on TV since they lost the titles. They've pretty much been losing in under 3 minutes since they've been called up except for when they decided they wanted to put the tag titles on them for the Christmas show.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jun 18, 2024 1:46:33 GMT -5
I’m nearing 20 YEARS of this shit, man. It wears away at you. 😳 I get what you’re saying but I promise you, to 99% of us it truly does not matter. It’ll be fine whatever results happen. We’re just complaining about a show like any other show. What I would say is all of this comes down to if a woman isn’t a joshi, she’s gonna be seen as already lesser than to a group of fans in wwe right now. It’s just a fact. If you wanna take out your frustration, speak with them who are acting like lyra is bastion booger or something Lmao If I don't get what I want, I'm gonna be the biggest bitch all day long.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 18, 2024 1:56:05 GMT -5
I get what you’re saying but I promise you, to 99% of us it truly does not matter. It’ll be fine whatever results happen. We’re just complaining about a show like any other show. What I would say is all of this comes down to if a woman isn’t a joshi, she’s gonna be seen as already lesser than to a group of fans in wwe right now. It’s just a fact. If you wanna take out your frustration, speak with them who are acting like lyra is bastion booger or something Lmao If I don't get what I want, I'm gonna be the biggest bitch all day long. if I don’t get zombie chad gable I’m going uber bitch, self exiled into bitchalla
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jun 18, 2024 1:58:34 GMT -5
If I don't get what I want, I'm gonna be the biggest bitch all day long. if I don’t get zombie chad gable I’m going uber bitch, self exiled into bitchalla If Isla Dawn and Grayson Waller aren't immediately pushed to main event status, I am going to make threads so f***ing miserable.
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Post by gl83 on Jun 18, 2024 2:24:38 GMT -5
Losing to the Kayden & Katana shouldn't be an issue, they are former tag team champs. The problem is the booking. They are tag team champs with 0 credibility. This is the first time they've won a match on TV since they lost the titles. They've pretty much been losing in under 3 minutes since they've been called up except for when they decided they wanted to put the tag titles on them for the Christmas show. We were talking about odd/weird booking earlier with Dakota/Kairi suddenly developing a conscience when IYO went ballistic on Lyra and them having to restrain her from doing further damage. Well, in this case we got another example with Dakota & Kairi beating the KCs down and were set to put the finishing touches, only for Lyra to come down and in effect distract them. And it wasn’t like she was running down to even the odds for the KCs, the odds were already even. So the win didn’t really help the KCs in regards to their credibility. Odd booking because it made the dastardly Heels look like the ones getting screwed over instead of the other way around.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jun 18, 2024 2:55:44 GMT -5
Losing to the Kayden & Katana shouldn't be an issue, they are former tag team champs. The problem is the booking. They are tag team champs with 0 credibility. This is the first time they've won a match on TV since they lost the titles. They've pretty much been losing in under 3 minutes since they've been called up except for when they decided they wanted to put the tag titles on them for the Christmas show. The problem is that there's not a lot of avenues to get credibility from. WWE's not gonna set aside 10 minutes of RAW or SmackDown for a women's tag team to squash someone explicitly for that, be they someone on the roster or not. And the expectation would be to do that for literally everyone, right? Even the people that many would say have credibility (Belair), a lot of it comes from beating the people that apparently didn't have any to give, so it just has to come from the sheer act alone of winning matches regardless of the opponent, wouldn't it? Look, I'm an outlier with this kind of subject because I'm so invested in the statistics of wrestling TV matches, which means that I do find it hard to circle the wagons over Iyo Sky when I see she's only been pinned twice on TV this year, one less time than "overpushed and undeserving" Nia Jax has been in the same time period. Hell, Kairi Sane's only been pinned twice since she's been back, and her fans are basically signing the death certificate of her career. Like, do they want these people pushed so hard that other wrestling fans hate them for it, the same way that they themselves hate Bianca Belair or Charlotte Flair for winning most of the time? SOMEONE has to lose these matches when they happen. I'm sorry if it's your favourite wrestlers that it happens to sometimes or even most of the time, but this stupid shit doesn't work unless someone loses.
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Post by mistery on Jun 18, 2024 6:00:25 GMT -5
Losing to the Kayden & Katana shouldn't be an issue, they are former tag team champs. The problem is the booking. They are tag team champs with 0 credibility. This is the first time they've won a match on TV since they lost the titles. They've pretty much been losing in under 3 minutes since they've been called up except for when they decided they wanted to put the tag titles on them for the Christmas show. The problem is that there's not a lot of avenues to get credibility from. WWE's not gonna set aside 10 minutes of RAW or SmackDown for a women's tag team to squash someone explicitly for that, be they someone on the roster or not. And the expectation would be to do that for literally everyone, right? Even the people that many would say have credibility (Belair), a lot of it comes from beating the people that apparently didn't have any to give, so it just has to come from the sheer act alone of winning matches regardless of the opponent, wouldn't it? Look, I'm an outlier with this kind of subject because I'm so invested in the statistics of wrestling TV matches, which means that I do find it hard to circle the wagons over Iyo Sky when I see she's only been pinned twice on TV this year, one less time than "overpushed and undeserving" Nia Jax has been in the same time period. Hell, Kairi Sane's only been pinned twice since she's been back, and her fans are basically signing the death certificate of her career. Like, do they want these people pushed so hard that other wrestling fans hate them for it, the same way that they themselves hate Bianca Belair or Charlotte Flair for winning most of the time? SOMEONE has to lose these matches when they happen. I'm sorry if it's your favourite wrestlers that it happens to sometimes or even most of the time, but this stupid shit doesn't work unless someone loses. The problem is that I think most people can count how many people want to see KC2 pushed on one hand. Their gimmick f***ing sucks. Triple H has tried MULTIPLE times to push them and its soundly rejected every time. KC2 should be the team that just exists to put others over at this point. And yeah like mentioned earlier, the KCs squashing Damage CTRL is utterly terrible booking, especially since it's been two years since the group formed, and they have never won a feud. And people wonder why they (Damage CTRL) can't get over, but fans want to see them pushed anyways. As for Lyra, I have said it before, and I will say it again. She is just so incredibly uninteresting, and people seem to be trying to gloss over the fact that her NXT Women's title reign was carried by Tatum. No one gave a f*** about Lyra otherwise. When fans (including casual ones) are rooting for the HEEL over her during that run, uh yeah. But yeah, let's continue to piss off Damage CTRL fans, to the point of where Kairi is almost constantly trending on social media with fans upset she isn't getting pushed. And I have zero faith that this Damage CTRL storyline is leading anywhere other than "lyra wins lol". At best they will add in a new body just to continue to lose.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jun 18, 2024 6:31:24 GMT -5
The problem is that I think most people can count how many people want to see KC2 pushed on one hand. Their gimmick f***ing sucks. Triple H has tried MULTIPLE times to push them and its soundly rejected every time. Define push, though. They've been on the main roster for just over a year now, and their win/loss record is worse than nearly all of your mob, with Chance at 11-20-0 and Carter at 9-20-0. Only Kai has a worse win/loss record in the same timeframe (most of which she was out with her injury, but I'll grant that hers isn't good). They've yet to appear on any PPV other than the "all hands on deck" Royal Rumble, while Damage CTRL are regularly on the f***in' things. OK, they won the tag belts, but so did Damage CTRL, so they cancel each other out there. Does it just feel like a stronger push because you don't want it? If what Chance and Carter have been getting for the last year is deemed "multiple pushes" in your eyes, then Damage CTRL have had a f***in' armada of rockets strapped to them in comparison.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 18, 2024 8:33:21 GMT -5
The problem is that I think most people can count how many people want to see KC2 pushed on one hand. Their gimmick f***ing sucks. Triple H has tried MULTIPLE times to push them and its soundly rejected every time. Define push, though. They've been on the main roster for just over a year now, and their win/loss record is worse than nearly all of your mob, with Chance at 11-20-0 and Carter at 9-20-0. Only Kai has a worse win/loss record in the same timeframe (most of which she was out with her injury, but I'll grant that hers isn't good). They've yet to appear on any PPV other than the "all hands on deck" Royal Rumble, while Damage CTRL are regularly on the f***in' things. OK, they won the tag belts, but so did Damage CTRL, so they cancel each other out there. Does it just feel like a stronger push because you don't want it? If what Chance and Carter have been getting for the last year is deemed "multiple pushes" in your eyes, then Damage CTRL have had a f***in' armada of rockets strapped to them in comparison. There’s no reasoning with the joshi fans.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jun 18, 2024 8:42:50 GMT -5
How does every women’s thread turn into “but but Damage CTRL”? Lyra f***ing rocks!
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