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Post by chronocross on May 20, 2024 18:06:59 GMT -5
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 20, 2024 18:38:27 GMT -5
I know Gewirtz has been out of the wrestling bubble for a bit, but he’d had to have been there long enough beforehand to know… Wrestling fans, especially those online all the time, this wouldn’t have been an earth-shattering surprise to them (and this was BEFORE they actively teased it with the Mahal segment, which to be fair, the crowd popped big for it). Rock v Reigns had long been speculated as a possible endgame to the Reigns title run, and we’d all had our concerns about Rock’s physical condition and how babyface Rock’s promos would undercut the serious nature of the feud.
And that’s BEFORE you add in the factor of depriving someone else (Rhodes) of a career moment themselves. The only reason people still barely tolerated the Reigns title run was because they’d gone all in on the premise of Rhodes winning a rematch at WM40. To then yank that away after Rhodes had won the Rumble again and called his shot… Fans weren’t gonna cop that regardless of who took his place.
Good on them for being smart enough to read the tea leaves and pivot back quickly in a way that somehow benefitted everyone. But it shouldn’t have gotten to that point.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 20, 2024 19:22:11 GMT -5
Complete delusion to think that was going to go well or come off like triumph. Gerwitz got brought in to write for Rock, who had the ego to think he could waltz right in and get put right up at the top at the expense of something people actually cared about. Cody could have applauded and it would have been rejected for being a dogshit nonsense story anyway. But Gerwitz knows who signs his checks and what his job is so he's going to act like there was a salvageable idea and it only failed because Cody had the wrong emotion on his face, and even if he qualifies that he doesn't hold that against Cody, it's still fundamentally lying about the problem there and blaming someone else.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on May 20, 2024 20:51:16 GMT -5
It just shows how out of touch both Brian and Dwayne are.
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Post by City Duck on May 20, 2024 21:25:01 GMT -5
Geworzt
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Post by Stu on May 20, 2024 21:52:53 GMT -5
Did they ever air that documentary on this drama and how they had to pivot back to Rhodes?
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Post by XIII on May 20, 2024 21:54:08 GMT -5
Rock and Gerwitz are straight clowns.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 20, 2024 22:19:55 GMT -5
Complete delusion to think that was going to go well or come off like triumph. Gerwitz got brought in to write for Rock, who had the ego to think he could waltz right in and get put right up at the top at the expense of something people actually cared about. Cody could have applauded and it would have been rejected for being a dogshit nonsense story anyway. But Gerwitz knows who signs his checks and what his job is so he's going to act like there was a salvageable idea and it only failed because Cody had the wrong emotion on his face, and even if he qualifies that he doesn't hold that against Cody, it's still fundamentally lying about the problem there and blaming someone else. f***ing Batista knew that him returning and winning the Rumble for Mania 30 would make him a Heel... wh the hell would the Rock think that taking the spotlight off another major over face would make him also a face?
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Post by yokohamacpfc on May 20, 2024 22:25:09 GMT -5
They’ve actually been quite lucky that they retconned Cody willingly giving up the title shot in kayfabe and the audience largely doesn’t care and are happy to pretend it never happened. If Cody had spent the segment fist pumping and trying to start Rocky chants the ‘We want Cody’ movement still happens but they might have to write a decent explanation for Cody’s actions.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 20, 2024 22:25:35 GMT -5
I can't believe they ever thought this was a good idea, but I'm glad the blowback was so f***ing bad they had to pivot in less then a week, which is like a new record even compared to what happened with Daniel Bryan lmfao
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Post by Error on May 20, 2024 22:49:47 GMT -5
Did they ever air that documentary on this drama and how they had to pivot back to Rhodes? No. According to Rock's buddy here, there was some error in promoting it so soon. They're still cutting it and it's ballooned from short YouTube 11 minute show to something that is around an hour in legnth now.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on May 20, 2024 22:50:57 GMT -5
Well, I'm glad we got Final Boss Rock out of it because I think it's the best Rock's been in over 20 years, even if the promos went way too f***ing long.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 21, 2024 6:18:01 GMT -5
There's no nice way to put this: Gewirtz comes off like a blithering ass.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on May 21, 2024 6:20:16 GMT -5
Why is this f***er's name Gewirtz and not Gerwitz
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 21, 2024 6:42:48 GMT -5
Honestly, and it might have been a power play or whatever, it says a bit more about HHH and even Nick Khan for letting it happen at all. Rock is a shareholder. He’s not management, he’s not got as much power outside of vetoing board decisions and as far as we can tell, “Rock vs. Roman or Cody vs. Roman” isn’t something you bring to a board of directors without people knowing.
Like, this is the dude who, after WrestleMania 39, ranted about how fans should trust the process and let bookers tell the story they want to and if it wasn’t for the fan backlash, the first Cody loss to Roman would have lead to Cody passing his Royal Rumble win to a dude who showed up one other time to tease such a thing and did nothing about it who hadn’t wrestled a full match for over a decade prior. They’re unbelievably lucky they got away with it to be quite blunt.
EDIT: They were also lucky that Rock was willing to play ball after that because what would have happened if he wasn’t? They would have basically had to do the match if he had the power to veto such a thing. We’d be talking about a wildly different WrestleMania if it didn’t happen.
How did nobody think any of this through, never mind Gewirtz?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 21, 2024 7:27:49 GMT -5
There's no nice way to put this: Gewirtz comes off like a blithering ass. just remember, if Triple H ever f***s up or gets misblamed for something and let go, this idiot is his replacement.
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Post by BRV on May 21, 2024 9:11:14 GMT -5
There's no nice way to put this: Gewirtz comes off like a blithering ass. just remember, if Triple H ever f***s up or gets misblamed for something and let go, this idiot is his replacement. A look inside the writers' room under Brian Gewirtz.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 21, 2024 16:34:16 GMT -5
Why is this f***er's name Gewirtz and not Gerwitz Wait how is his name Gewirtz and not Gerwitz what have I been doing all these years
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on May 21, 2024 17:19:44 GMT -5
Gewirtz's life exists between the Rock and a hard place (being where you hold a bottle of the Rock's freshly-squeezed urine).
And much like the Rock's freshly-squeezed urine, this idea for Cody pitched by creative would have been a bunch of hot piss.
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 21, 2024 18:42:25 GMT -5
Honestly, and it might have been a power play or whatever, it says a bit more about HHH and even Nick Khan for letting it happen at all. Rock is a shareholder. He’s not management, he’s not got as much power outside of vetoing board decisions and as far as we can tell, “Rock vs. Roman or Cody vs. Roman” isn’t something you bring to a board of directors without people knowing. Like, this is the dude who, after WrestleMania 39, ranted about how fans should trust the process and let bookers tell the story they want to and if it wasn’t for the fan backlash, the first Cody loss to Roman would have lead to Cody passing his Royal Rumble win to a dude who showed up one other time to tease such a thing and did nothing about it who hadn’t wrestled a full match for over a decade prior. They’re unbelievably lucky they got away with it to be quite blunt. EDIT: They were also lucky that Rock was willing to play ball after that because what would have happened if he wasn’t? They would have basically had to do the match if he had the power to veto such a thing. We’d be talking about a wildly different WrestleMania if it didn’t happen. How did nobody think any of this through, never mind Gewirtz? The power play might have been H letting the Rock go forward with it and watch the backlash ensue. There’s no way Hunter wanted his multi decade long real life rival insert himself in his 4 year storyline and emerge the victory. I think HHH knew what he was doing and what was gonna happen
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