Nr1Humanoid
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on May 25, 2024 14:58:46 GMT -5
During and after the X-Files there were many that tried to capitalize on its success by creating shows with a central story, mystery or mythology and such, to go along with its stand alone stories; Invasion, Kindred the Embraced, VR5, Harsh Realm, Nowhere Man, American Gothic, Dark Skies and others, that all failed to strike a chord with enough viewers to avoid cancellation.
Anyone have any theories as to why?
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Post by Hit Girl on May 25, 2024 16:05:26 GMT -5
Lack of Mulder and Scully
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Post by Gunhaver on May 25, 2024 17:06:49 GMT -5
It's hard for me to speak to it because I didn't watch it, but surely the characters and stories played a heavy role in hooking people. Another show can replicate the formula, but there's really no way guarantee new writing will work the same way. I'm curious which similar style programs worked between X Files and lost, now that I think a out it. That's a big gap.
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Post by thechase on May 26, 2024 2:33:27 GMT -5
Not a live-action show, but there was this brilliant animated series called Roswell Conspiracies which ran for one season but was more or less entirely done-in-one and didn't drag it's mythology arc out. It had a beginning, middle, and an end.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 26, 2024 2:44:09 GMT -5
Even X-Files eventually had trouble following X-Files.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 26, 2024 3:20:30 GMT -5
Lack of Mulder and Scully And Skinner, Cigarette Smoking Man, and Krycek (who was only supposed to be in a few episodes, but the crew loved Nicholas Lea and he was popular with fans, so he stuck around). Also no Chris Carter at the helm, and even Carter couldn't replicate X-Files. It was a combination of an incredibly talented cast and crew, the chemistry of Mulder and Scully, fantastic characters, and good scripts. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 26, 2024 5:08:15 GMT -5
X-Files caught lightning in a bottle, combining two popular show topics, unsolved mysteries and police procedurals with solid writing and charismatic leads, something that is hard to replicate, and it never really went away, making it hard for other series to capture the audience the closest series to doing so was Millennium and that was part of the same universe.
I wish American Gothic had caught on, or something had come from the talk of a revival that was in the pop culture press for muxh of the aughts. It was a great series with a charia!atic lead, but expectations were a little bit too high.
VR5 was awful though, but I bring it up whenever people try to pretend VR is a new tech on the cusp of taking the world by storm. Nah, there was a show about it in the 90s where the tech was used alongside accoustic coupler modems, thirty years+ is enough time for something to stop being new.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on May 26, 2024 18:57:21 GMT -5
The Lone Gunmen!!!
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Post by schma on May 26, 2024 19:26:55 GMT -5
Even X-Files eventually had trouble following X-Files. I remember after they had several seasons the space channel started showing it every night. Watching it every night really showed the holes and blemishes in the show that a weekly viewing could hide. They were constantly making shit up as they went, always following a very specific formula and seeing it each night killed my interest in the show. I think the most galling where the episodes where Scully was the believer and suddenly Mulder who was the first one to believe anything turned into a full skeptic. Also, he was never wrong about anything. All these crazy out there theories and he was correct every single time. |
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on May 26, 2024 22:10:51 GMT -5
Not a live-action show, but there was this brilliant animated series called Roswell Conspiracies which ran for one season but was more or less entirely done-in-one and didn't drag it's mythology arc out. It had a beginning, middle, and an end. That the one with the cartoon with a team of a human male and a Banshee hybrid Female? If so that was a great cartoon. Never saw it. Then the entire run got put on dvd for a buck a disc. Grabbed it and binged it over a few weeks at work. |
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Post by thechase on May 27, 2024 3:20:14 GMT -5
Not a live-action show, but there was this brilliant animated series called Roswell Conspiracies which ran for one season but was more or less entirely done-in-one and didn't drag it's mythology arc out. It had a beginning, middle, and an end. That the one with the cartoon with a team of a human male and a Banshee hybrid Female? Yeah, I think there may have been a sasquatch on their team too. |
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Post by dav on May 27, 2024 9:01:47 GMT -5
That the one with the cartoon with a team of a human male and a Banshee hybrid Female? Yeah, I think there may have been a sasquatch on their team too. Yeti, yeah. Although, they did have the moment where other members of the team laugh over the thought of a Bigfoot existing, while the Yeti is literally standing three feet away from them. |
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on May 27, 2024 9:52:41 GMT -5
That the one with the cartoon with a team of a human male and a Banshee hybrid Female? Yeah, I think there may have been a sasquatch on their team too. Yep that is it. Back in 2007 saw a few dollar dvds of it at the grocery store. Grabbed them and spent months tracking down the rest. Few years back they got re-released in a set that was the full run on 5 or 6 discs for around 10 bucks. Great show. But seems in the States it was syndicated at 5 or 6am Mon-Fri |
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Post by thechase on May 27, 2024 10:18:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I think there may have been a sasquatch on their team too. Yep that is it. Back in 2007 saw a few dollar dvds of it at the grocery store. Grabbed them and spent months tracking down the rest. Few years back they got re-released in a set that was the full run on 5 or 6 discs for around 10 bucks. Great show. But seems in the States it was syndicated at 5 or 6am Mon-Fri The weekday airing thing happened in our country too, it usually aired on SKY ONE around 7 or 7:30 AM, and on BBC television as part of Live and Kicking's last series every Saturday, or so I'm told anyway, I stuck with the SKY screenings and didn't make time for L&K (my era of that programme having long ended) |
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on May 27, 2024 10:21:26 GMT -5
Yep that is it. Back in 2007 saw a few dollar dvds of it at the grocery store. Grabbed them and spent months tracking down the rest. Few years back they got re-released in a set that was the full run on 5 or 6 discs for around 10 bucks. Great show. But seems in the States it was syndicated at 5 or 6am Mon-Fri The weekday airing thing happened in our country too, it usually aired on SKY ONE around 7 or 7:30 AM, and on BBC television as part of Live and Kicking's last series every Saturday, or so I'm told anyway, I stuck with the SKY screenings and didn't make time for L&K (my era of that programme having long ended) Yea I dont think it ever aired in my area. But by then if i was up before 9am it was because was heading to work. Out of alll the XFiles inspired shows the only one I watched and enjoyed was Millenium. Which seems to be forgotten now. |
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Post by thechase on May 27, 2024 10:23:33 GMT -5
The weekday airing thing happened in our country too, it usually aired on SKY ONE around 7 or 7:30 AM, and on BBC television as part of Live and Kicking's last series every Saturday, or so I'm told anyway, I stuck with the SKY screenings and didn't make time for L&K (my era of that programme having long ended) Yea I dont think it ever aired in my area. But by then if i was up before 9am it was because was heading to work. Out of alll the XFiles inspired shows the only one I watched and enjoyed was Millenium. Which seems to be forgotten now. Millenium, yeah, remember that, was actually in the same universe as the X-Files, created by the same person, and got a conclusion after cancelation in the X-Files show itself. |
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 27, 2024 14:17:13 GMT -5
X-files never recovered after 'Baywatch Nights' premiered and showed them how it's really done.
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Post by y4j1981 on May 27, 2024 20:19:03 GMT -5
Nowhere Man, American Gothic These were my jam. Upset me dearly when each was cancelled. I know American Gothic wasn't part of it, but I really dug early UPN. Nowhere Man, Haunted, Twilight Zone, The Watcher. |
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Post by thechase on May 28, 2024 1:20:34 GMT -5
Oh, remembered another one
First Wave.
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Post by agent817 on May 28, 2024 1:28:16 GMT -5
Baywatch Nights. Well, the second season, at least.
I thought the first season was decent enough (for what it was) with the private detective angle and having Mitch and Garner working together to solve cases. Then came the second season with Mitch dealing with vampires, demons, the undead, etc.
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