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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 6, 2024 20:18:30 GMT -5
On the flip side of the topic from the other thread.
Which NXT talent has Triple H been the laziest at pushing and just not bothering to help them get over.
Indi Hartwell? Candice LeRae? KAIRI SANE?
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Post by PHD-FENDERBAUM on Jun 6, 2024 20:46:32 GMT -5
To me it is KAIRI by f***ing far and it aint even close.
He seemingly saw something in her in NXT that he strapped the womens title to her only for her to drop it some 71 days later because she got called up so I do not blame him for that one.
But ever since it has been nothing but stick her in a tag team...she left with hopes of getting a chance similar to bestie Io when she returned but now immediately stuck right back into a tag team like she never left.
For all her talents and IMO being the biggest babyface the womens division could possibly have he has done even less than nothing with her and I got no f***ing clue why...she is beautiful , she isn't problematic at all , she has personality and charisma for miles and miles and is a killer bell to bell and has a pirate persona that is such an obvious money making machine.
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Post by Starshine on Jun 6, 2024 21:21:22 GMT -5
The big guy who teamed with Sylvester LeFort. He lost all his hair to the point he looked like Kane, then just sort of stood around doing nothing, before getting shitcanned soon after.
Also Sawyer Fulton who was the other other guy in Sanity.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 6, 2024 21:30:18 GMT -5
Does Fabian Archer/Giovanni Vinci apply?
Only because I didn't see any of his NXT stuff, so is he underpushed or he is exactly who he is?
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Post by clc on Jun 7, 2024 0:30:51 GMT -5
KAIRI.
Started out strong by winning the Mae Young classic. Won the NXT title. Gets to the main roster to be a jobber (This is under Vince though) is allowed one singles win in her farewell match. Leaves. Comes back to be an even bigger jobber, only this time she's not even given any character work. She's just an extra body in a stable of losers.
She's regularly on TV, so it's not actually her, but the contrast is dumbfounding. When she arrived she seemed like she was destined to be a big deal. She got to the main roster and they decided she's not worth anything.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 7, 2024 2:02:47 GMT -5
Kairi Sane isn't a jobber and never has been. She is underutilized, always has been, but a jobber? No, jobbers don't get a bunch of titles and wins over name talent. We're really misusing that here.
I will definitely throw Indi's hat in the ring, though, as someone Triple H seems totally indifferent towards doing anything with.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 7, 2024 2:40:14 GMT -5
My pick is someone who isn’t even with the company anymore, Cameron Grimes. If Grimes just wasn’t big enough or the type of wrestler HHH wanted that would be one thing but we heard as recently as in the last few years that he was huge on Grimes. Always gave him stuff to do in NXT, felt like one of the main characters and then… nothing? Suddenly released?
What changed? At least Indi, DIY, Kairi get matches. This guy suddenly didn’t do anything forever and I’ll always wonder what the hell happened when he’s the type of wrestler that is so handy for a federation to have, a mid-lower midcard interesting character that can get viewers to watch without needing to involve a title. He had to have pissed someone off.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 7, 2024 2:42:29 GMT -5
Does Fabian Archer/Giovanni Vinci apply? Only because I didn't see any of his NXT stuff, so is he underpushed or he is exactly who he is? 100%. You should watch some of his PPV matches, it will blow your mind that he’s the guy just getting bullied by the rest of imperium these last few months. Imo, he is an excellent wrestler.
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Post by Legion on Jun 7, 2024 3:16:04 GMT -5
My pick is someone who isn’t even with the company anymore, Cameron Grimes. If Grimes just wasn’t big enough or the type of wrestler HHH wanted that would be one thing but we heard as recently as in the last few years that he was huge on Grimes. Always gave him stuff to do in NXT, felt like one of the main characters and then… nothing? Suddenly released? What changed? At least Indi, DIY, Kairi get matches. This guy suddenly didn’t do anything forever and I’ll always wonder what the hell happened when he’s the type of wrestler that is so handy for a federation to have, a mid-lower midcard interesting character that can get viewers to watch without needing to involve a title. He had to have pissed someone off. This, this all day. Grimes was a big deal in NXT, he was a key character and so much fun to watch, and the guy can work. Vince didnt bother with him, then HHHunter comes in and the same thing. Then he gets cut, not even sent back to NXT.
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Post by avenger on Jun 7, 2024 3:46:43 GMT -5
Does Fabian Archer/Giovanni Vinci apply? Only because I didn't see any of his NXT stuff, so is he underpushed or he is exactly who he is? 100%. You should watch some of his PPV matches, it will blow your mind that he’s the guy just getting bullied by the rest of imperium these last few months. Imo, he is an excellent wrestler. The short singles run he had in NXT after Gunther and Kaiser got called up saw him have a couple of great TV matches.
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Post by XIII on Jun 7, 2024 5:20:04 GMT -5
Sexy Forest Witches.
Haven’t been watching lately but he didn’t do anything with them once they came up except feed them to Ronda. lol
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Post by crowley1986 on Jun 7, 2024 5:28:19 GMT -5
The big guy who teamed with Sylvester LeFort. He lost all his hair to the point he looked like Kane, then just sort of stood around doing nothing, before getting shitcanned soon after. Also Sawyer Fulton who was the other other guy in Sanity. Marcus Louis - always felt it was weird - shaving him, few backstage bits and then cutting him a few weeks/months later after nothing
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 7, 2024 5:37:52 GMT -5
Dragon Lee hasn't been mentioned yet, his booking has been absolutely f***ing infuriating because he feels like he should be a sure thing but every time a Luchador comes up to the main roster they just get shackled to Rey and constantly tell the fans "They're not as cool as Rey, they're his backup"
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 7, 2024 9:20:25 GMT -5
Dragon Lee hasn't been mentioned yet, his booking has been absolutely f***ing infuriating because he feels like he should be a sure thing but every time a Luchador comes up to the main roster they just get shackled to Rey and constantly tell the fans "They're not as cool as Rey, they're his backup" I’d like to see them tell a story with Rey and Dragon Lee eventually feuding and Lee usurping him as the luchador of the future. That’s always been difficult though because Rey usually ends up sticking around.
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Post by clc on Jun 7, 2024 9:44:04 GMT -5
Sexy Forest Witches. Haven’t been watching lately but he didn’t do anything with them once they came up except feed them to Ronda. lol Remember that time the witches attacked the Kabuki Warriors during the Christmas match?
Yeah...neither does HHH.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 7, 2024 10:33:11 GMT -5
I would say the Witches. Debut, fed to Ronda and Shayna for no reason even though that team was going to split in like 2 weeks, off TV for months, return and attack Kabuki Warriors which sets them up to..........job to Kacy and Katana in two minutes and disappear for months again, resurface again recently likely just because they have a PPV in Scotland where I'm sure they'll lose and then disappear again for months.
And it's too bad because I really think they could be a money act. I think they definitely have more upside then the likes of Shayna, Zoey, and Natalya and the other charisma vacuums he giving consistent TV time too.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Jun 7, 2024 14:10:10 GMT -5
I like the idea of Kairi and think she's a charismatic performer, but she's been pretty underwhelming and regularly quite sloppy in the ring.
I get she hasn't been booked terribly strong, but she could've been better too.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Jun 7, 2024 14:17:50 GMT -5
He did a good job with him in NXT, but he made no real attempt with Cameron Grimes on the main roster. I really don't get it.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 7, 2024 14:36:58 GMT -5
He did a good job with him in NXT, but he made no real attempt with Cameron Grimes on the main roster. I really don't get it. From what Grimes said, HBK was the man behind pushing him while Triple H appreciated his in ring work but didn't really see much in him in terms of being a star
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Post by gritizen on Jun 7, 2024 14:40:27 GMT -5
She's might be the worst in ring wrestler on the roster, but Triple H put 0 effort into Indi. Everybody else at least got a showcase win on their debut. She got a jobber entrance for her debut match and her & Candice were eliminated in 2 minutes in a tag team gauntlet match.
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