lucas_lee
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 13, 2024 9:50:07 GMT -5
I don't think WWE is going to buy it but Anthem's done a f***ing spectacular job of killing the momentum it was building right at the start of 2024 with big names largely responsible for that momentum getting fired or leaving, causing plenty of contracts to start expiring without renewal on the talent end, and it's definitely not great TBF the shows were better but there wasn't any upward mobility ratings and othe metrics wise unforubately.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jun 13, 2024 9:51:01 GMT -5
Doubt it. It was one thing even the network was the sole source of streaming revenue, then they def could have used the tape library. But these days it’s nowhere near as needed.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 13, 2024 9:54:31 GMT -5
I don't think WWE is going to buy it but Anthem's done a f***ing spectacular job of killing the momentum it was building right at the start of 2024 with big names largely responsible for that momentum getting fired or leaving, causing plenty of contracts to start expiring without renewal on the talent end, and it's definitely not great TBF the shows were better but there wasn't any upward mobility ratings and othe metrics wise unforubately. When you're on that niche a channel, your ratings are gonna suck to the point of them not really mattering.
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Post by tafkaga on Jun 13, 2024 10:14:48 GMT -5
They'll probably buy the tape library some day, but what would they get out of purchasing the company? It seems to me that TNA serves WWE's interest better as a little territory to help talent develop and keep them somewhat relevant so that they are already familiar to the audience when WWE calls them up.
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Post by Tenshigure on Jun 13, 2024 10:30:33 GMT -5
In their current relationship, the WWE/TKO are able to take talent and test their target audience reactions without needing to worry about a downside guarantee or expenses they'd normally cover, and if they find someone they like, they can cherry pick their biggest and best to get them to jump ship without having to deal with building their gimmicks or popularity to any significant degree.
Not only this, but as it's been stated the WWE is shutting down their streaming service and basically moving the majority of their library into the Netflix service for an obscene amount of money. Vince may care about ownership of the libraries, but Netflix is that Steam/Apple/Microsoft kind of service where it's extremely difficult for any production (pro wrestling or otherwise) to turn down with the right price. Why worry about negotiating with TNA when Netflix could give them a similar deal for their tape library and just so happen to have TKO/WWE use that same footage in their products (they do it all the time for their reality TV shows and variety shows after all).
If anything, WWE/TKO have nothing to gain from buying TNA other than to take on expenses they don't want or need. They already have everything they'd want from the company in its current state.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jun 13, 2024 10:47:54 GMT -5
I could see wwe or aew buying tna, but I also think tna will survive the heat death of the universe either by choice or sheer stupidity.
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Post by jean0987654321 on Jun 13, 2024 21:00:22 GMT -5
Of course they will
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Post by chrom on Jun 13, 2024 21:18:36 GMT -5
I could see wwe or aew buying tna, but I also think tna will survive the heat death of the universe either by choice or sheer stupidity. Alternatively, through sheer stupidity, they cause the heat death of the universe.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 13, 2024 22:13:51 GMT -5
Also, WWE or AEW owning TNA would suck and be awful for the industry. We need more companies independent of Stamford and Jacksonville, not less.
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Post by Rave on Jun 13, 2024 22:36:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't be shocked. Dixie tried selling to WWE back in 2016, though Anthem having part ownership of the tape library at that point pretty much put the kibosh on it.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jun 13, 2024 22:54:25 GMT -5
Also, WWE or AEW owning TNA would suck and be awful for the industry. We need more companies independent of Stamford and Jacksonville, not less. Fine, I'll open one. What could it cost, Cyno? Ten dollars?
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Jun 14, 2024 1:48:11 GMT -5
Aurora Rose will show up on the final episode of TNA Impact and sign the contract to transfer ownership.
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Post by cjh on Jun 14, 2024 6:44:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't be shocked. Dixie tried selling to WWE back in 2016, though Anthem having part ownership of the tape library at that point pretty much put the kibosh on it. I always heard Dixie never considered WWE because it would mean the company closing. She wanted to sell to someone who would continue to run it.
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Post by Rave on Jun 14, 2024 8:39:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't be shocked. Dixie tried selling to WWE back in 2016, though Anthem having part ownership of the tape library at that point pretty much put the kibosh on it. I always heard Dixie never considered WWE because it would mean the company closing. She wanted to sell to someone who would continue to run it. This was in the middle of the Corgan lawsuit. Her parents had cut her off at that point and nobody else wanted to fund her, prob'ly (and rightfully) fearing that she'd screw them over like she did Corgan. There were millions in debts to be paid. WWE largely wanted the tape library. If Anthem hadn't gotten involved, who knows what might've happened?
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jun 14, 2024 8:44:17 GMT -5
I could see wwe or aew buying tna, but I also think tna will survive the heat death of the universe either by choice or sheer stupidity. Alternatively, through sheer stupidity, they cause the heat death of the universe. that is entirely possible as the company seems to some how one up itself every time we think they've reached peak stupidity.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 14, 2024 10:16:45 GMT -5
Also, WWE or AEW owning TNA would suck and be awful for the industry. We need more companies independent of Stamford and Jacksonville, not less. Fine, I'll open one. What could it cost, Cyno? Ten dollars? And a pizza oven.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jun 14, 2024 11:49:10 GMT -5
I think it's more likely Tony Khan would try and buy TNA at some point. Just because Tony Khan.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 14, 2024 11:51:35 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone brought this up yet but I think something to consider in all of this is a simple question;
What does the WWE Network look like in 2025?
Because as of right now, the only thing we know is that Rogers won't have Network content from 2025, the Network in the UK and Ireland is closing down, Peacock has Network content for another year and that's really it. We don't know whether Netflix paid for the archive or even if it'd be worth the process putting all the shows and footage onto a new streaming service. So adding more footage and shows to that might not be that worthwhile because there's no home for it. And that's if TKO does well enough for Endeavor and its new owners to not cut it up to bits which isn't likely to happen any time soon but it'll hover above them as long as they're still publicly traded.
Even with that, though, if WWE did buy TNA, kept Impact going and it somehow leaves AXS, where does it go? It could go to CW who have said on record they're open to more wrestling shows after getting NXT which fits in both criteria and it'd also likely be super cheap but that might be pushing itself too high? If the negotiation period with WBD ends soon and a deal isn't officially reached, we'd likely see who'd be interested in Impact with who puts a bid in for AEW. A WWE promoted company with likely WWE stars popping up and crossover potential? That'd get a little interest going.
But having said all of that? It's hard to see a scenario, unless it's losing a f***tonne and affecting Anthem in a big way, that it'd be sold off. The cheapest "big" TV wrestling league you can put minimal money into and fill timeslots with? I mean, you're not going to get that in many different places. Especially with Netflix making big deals out of hot dog eating and carnival side shows like Jake Paul/Mike Tyson (if that actually happens at this point), you keep what you can get.
So maybe? Like, you also have to remember, WWE allegedly had it in the contract with UK companies like PROGRESS and ICW that at any time they can agree to buy them out so it's not entirely something to rule out but it has to make sense for the long term if the Netflix deal goes the full 10 years.
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Post by Tenshigure on Jun 14, 2024 12:30:21 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone brought this up yet but I think something to consider in all of this is a simple question; What does the WWE Network look like in 2025?
Non-existent. Per their announcement of the Netflix deal, they flat-out said this:
Basically, WWE's content will either be on Peacock or Netflix going forward, the Network is no more.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 14, 2024 12:36:32 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone brought this up yet but I think something to consider in all of this is a simple question; What does the WWE Network look like in 2025? Non-existent. Per their announcement of the Netflix deal, they flat-out said this: Basically, WWE's content will either be on Peacock or Netflix going forward, the Network is no more.
The thing is, that didn’t specify that the library won’t be available on Netflix, just that the focus of the release was on live programming. It’s like how they hype up a new show and reveal about a month before launch that the old seasons will be on there, there’s no real need to disclose that now and also not really what either side’s shareholders care about. The other thing to note with that is Peacock’s contract expires at the end of next year and not this, which is why only Raw was confirmed to be going to Netflix in America next year (and what that means, too, for Smackdown and NXT seeing as they just signed TV deals and CW has it’s own online service) and considering how WWE is basically keeping Peacock going and NBC has money to spend, there is a scenario where Peacock keeps the WWE Network content for another few years or so.
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