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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jun 17, 2024 14:41:21 GMT -5
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 17, 2024 15:03:05 GMT -5
You know it's bad when the US government is stepping in against tech companies' greed. Usually the EU is the to do it. Hopefully we see more of it as it is well beyond time tech bros were taken down a notch or two. Hopefully this also means design schools will finally stop treating Adobe suites like they're the only software to ware about.
F*** Adobe. There are countless free or fairly priced alternatives to their software so don't bother using theirs. Don't even bother pirating it because, again, you can find betteer alternatives that deserve to be supported.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 17, 2024 15:41:23 GMT -5
Adobe's recent TOS stuff is nightmare shit even by your typical Silicon Valley hypercapitalist techbro standard. f*** them.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 17, 2024 17:41:45 GMT -5
Adobe's recent TOS stuff is nightmare shit even by your typical Silicon Valley hypercapitalist techbro standard. f*** them. Everything to do with AI* is straight out of a dystopian cyberpunk story and really exposes the complete absence of ethics that tech corporations have: We own your art. We own your music. We own your writings, artistic or otherwise. We own your medical records. We own your f'ing voice. We own your f'ing face. The instant anything is brought into existence, we get to claim ownership of it, including Human beings' entire identity. You exist to provide us with products to sell, and then buy these products from us, and you'd better be grateful for the opportunity, or we'll sick our corporate hitmen (the Pinkertons) on ya. *Which, I cannot stress enough, is not artificial intelligence at all by any definition. It's just a buzzword that corporations use because it sounds sci-fi and is certainly better PR than "automated plagiarism".
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jun 17, 2024 18:19:04 GMT -5
About a decade late but better late than never. Someone has needed to put Adobe down a few pegs for a very long time for let's call it what it is, scamming and stealing people's money and art.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jun 18, 2024 1:08:52 GMT -5
They need to beat their ass into submission. I had a free trial with an Adobe product and went to cancel. They offered me an extended free trial and it was set up in such a sketchy way I still got nailed by fees in the end.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 18, 2024 5:25:29 GMT -5
How bad do you have to be at corporate bullshit that the American government tells you off?
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 18, 2024 5:25:57 GMT -5
By the way, I propose that we take the opportunity to recommend better alternatives to Adobe products. Here are mine:
I personally use SAI (a.k.a. Paint Tool SAI) for digital drawings and paintings. Excellent softyware that has everything you need and is particularly good at, as the name suggests, digital painting as the way colours and brushes interact are very realistic. It's also fairly cheap, with a one time fee of about 50€ from what I recall AND you get to keep your license even if you change computers.
I also know many artists these days use Clip Studio Paint. It's pricier at about 200€ for the fully-featured EX version but is an excellent tool and can be used for both illustration and animation. And again, that 200€ fee is a one-time payment (although they also have subscription plans if you prefer those for whatever reason).
GIMP is probably the best known free alternative to Photoshop but I don't find it very user-friendly and I much prefer Paint.net. Either way, both are perfectly fine for photo editing and formatting.
It's also worth pointing out that The CS2 suite of Adobe products has gone freeware many years ago. Apparently they f***ed somethign up beyong repair in the registration feature which prevented legitimate buyers from registering and accessing their software, so the only way Adobe could avoid a class-action lawsuit was to not require a registration at all.
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Post by 06vwgti on Jun 18, 2024 11:51:00 GMT -5
I hate the software as service model, but don't see it going away grr.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 18, 2024 11:53:15 GMT -5
Oh and whatever you use, don't forget to put your pictures through Glaze if you're gonna publish them on the Internet to make it harder for algorithms to plagiarize it.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jun 19, 2024 23:52:28 GMT -5
By the way, I propose that we take the opportunity to recommend better alternatives to Adobe products. Here are mine: I personally use SAI (a.k.a. Paint Tool SAI) for digital drawings and paintings. Excellent softyware that has everything you need and is particularly good at, as the name suggests, digital painting as the way colours and brushes interact are very realistic. It's also fairly cheap, with a one time fee of about 50€ from what I recall AND you get to keep your license even if you change computers. I also know many artists these days use Clip Studio Paint. It's pricier at about 200€ for the fully-featured EX version but is an excellent tool and can be used for both illustration and animation. And again, that 200€ fee is a one-time payment (although they also have subscription plans if you prefer those for whatever reason). GIMP is probably the best known free alternative to Photoshop but I don't find it very user-friendly and I much prefer Paint.net. Either way, both are perfectly fine for photo editing and formatting. It's also worth pointing out that The CS2 suite of Adobe products has gone freeware many years ago. Apparently they f***ed somethign up beyong repair in the registration feature which prevented legitimate buyers from registering and accessing their software, so the only way Adobe could avoid a class-action lawsuit was to not require a registration at all. Affinity Photo is what I ended up landing with after I got tired of Adobe's B.S. It has the same basic interface, some stuff is kinda wonky to get used to if you use shortcuts like I do, but it's the best alternative I've found that worked for me.
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