Independence Day: Resurgence Pitch Meeting

[JoDaNa1281]

What better way to celebrate the 4th of July, than by watching a Pitch Meeting, about this very forgettable sequel!

[RI Richmark]

Honestly when Will Smith said no the movie should have died right there.

[Ben Wyatt]

Jul 4, 2024 17:20:57 GMT -5 RI Richmark said:

Honestly when Will Smith said no the movie should have died right there.

I think the biggest issue with him not being in it is that just about every other major character that survived the first one *except* Hillard is in this one.  I'm honestly shocked they didn't shoehorn Russell Casse's kids into this flick somehow. 

There are elements of the movie that are pretty good, but it get's buried underneath too much CGI, too many people coming back  and the silliness of every new character being connected to someone in the first one.

[agent817]

Jul 5, 2024 6:26:40 GMT -5 Ben Wyatt said:

Jul 4, 2024 17:20:57 GMT -5 RI Richmark said:

Honestly when Will Smith said no the movie should have died right there.

I think the biggest issue with him not being in it is that just about every other major character that survived the first one *except* Hillard is in this one.  I'm honestly shocked they didn't shoehorn Russell Casse's kids into this flick somehow. 

There are elements of the movie that are pretty good, but it get's buried underneath too much CGI, too many people coming back  and the silliness of every new character being connected to someone in the first one.

I felt that Joey King's character and her group were sort of what took the place of Russell Casse's kids, as well as maybe when Jasmine and Dylan were traveling through the ruins. Personally, I wonder if Miguel, Alicia, and Troy were in the original script, but maybe Lisa Jakub and Giuseppe Andrews probably declined because they were done with acting at that point. I wonder if James Duval was still acting then, though.

As for anything else, I have a novel that covers the events that lead up to "Resurgence." I recall reading it to a certain point. I may have to get back to it or restart reading it. I think it may have covered Hiller's death in the book.

[KingPooper]

The first one is one of my favorite movies of all time. The second film was such a mess. There was no scale. The giant mother ship being so close to earth should ended civilization just from a gravity standpoint. The bit about hunting the last surviving aliens in Africa sounded like a much better movie.

There was so much going on and so many pointless characters, it was hard to care about any thing going on. Like others have said there were interesting ideas but the execution was bad.

[Dead2009]

Jul 4, 2024 17:20:57 GMT -5 RI Richmark said:

Honestly when Will Smith said no the movie should have died right there.

He didnt flat out say no, it was between this and Suicide Squad and he simply chose the movie he thought would get him back out there.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Jul 6, 2024 23:05:08 GMT -5 KingPooper said:

The bit about hunting the last surviving aliens in Africa sounded like a much better movie.

This movie broke the cardinal rule in moviemaking: don't present a more interesting idea as a mere back-/side-story. While I like the movie a lot, Furiosa makes the same mistake when it presents the Wasteland War as a 20-second montage.

Aliens vs. an African warlord's army sounds like such a fun couple of hours compared to what we got.

Jul 8, 2024 21:20:51 GMT -5 Dead2009 said:

He didnt flat out say no, it was between this and Suicide Squad and he simply chose the movie he thought would get him back out there.

It's funny, because while Suicide Squad made a ton of money, I think even without Smith this movie is better than/not as bad as Suicide Squad.

[Hit Girl]

The ID4 sequel should have been set during the events of the first film, but from someone else's perspective, perhaps regular civilians trying to survive.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Jul 9, 2024 16:09:26 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

The ID4 sequel should have been set during the events of the first film, but from someone else's perspective, perhaps regular civilians trying to survive.

There was actually a 5-minute short film made to promote the first movie that just followed this guy:



He's just going about his day when all hell breaks loose, and the final shot is the alien ship appearing above the Brooklyn Bridge.

I always thought that just following a group of regular people just trying to escape would've been a good story. Kinda like Cloverfield, but not in a found-footage format.