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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 18, 2024 12:59:35 GMT -5
I remember an old Howard Stern interview where Chris Rock was talking about Chris Farley. I remember he said something about Farley was too nice and let himself always be the butt of jokes. Rock said he was more protective of his characters where he didn’t mind being the butt of jokes as long as he got the last laugh.
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Post by chrom on Aug 18, 2024 13:02:50 GMT -5
The Rock has insisted his character always be the Hero
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 18, 2024 13:24:27 GMT -5
The Rock has insisted his character always be the Hero He, Vin Diesel and Jason Statham also always include in their contracts that they can't lose a fight on screen.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 18, 2024 16:13:32 GMT -5
The Rock has insisted his character always be the Hero He, Vin Diesel and Jason Statham also always include in their contracts that they can't lose a fight on screen. Vin put over the Nazis in Saving Private Ryan, then refused to job to anyone else.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 18, 2024 18:43:32 GMT -5
The Rock has insisted his character always be the Hero He didn't used to be like that, like he has played a lot of villains, all things considered, like in Pain & Gain, Doom, Get Smart, etc. It's weird that he eventually got so fragile about it.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 18, 2024 18:56:58 GMT -5
Hard to tell if this was character specific or just Shatner ego, but he became remarkably specific about how Kirk was presented, especially in the movies where he's said to be responsible for certain changes in STVI because the character (and the Enterprise) being rescued by Sulu's Excelsior apparently bothered him. STV was supposed to have all the senior staff compelled by Sybok to betray Kirk (with the latter resisting his efforts) only for Nimoy and Kelley to outright refuse, viewing the idea as out of character for both.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 18, 2024 19:04:12 GMT -5
Hard to tell if this was character specific or just Shatner ego, but he became remarkably specific about how Kirk was presented, especially in the movies where he's said to be responsible for certain changes in STVI because the character (and the Enterprise) being rescued by Sulu's Excelsior apparently bothered him. William Shatner and Kirk was who first came to mind when I saw this thread. I actually liked how they worked around Shatner's objection in STVI. When you watch the scene, it's Spock and Uhura figuring out a solution with McCoy being solicited to help, while Kirk just slowly looks back and forth at them. It gave Uhura a moment, and was kind of comedic.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Aug 18, 2024 19:06:11 GMT -5
The Rock has insisted his character always be the Hero He didn't used to be like that, like he has played a lot of villains, all things considered, like in Pain & Gain, Doom, Get Smart, etc. It's weird that he eventually got so fragile about it. he got to the A list tier roles where losing on screen hurts your brand. the bigger he got physically the less his characters took a kicking leading into the invincible alpha male trope he's stuck in now (and one upping the big name action stars of the 80's & 90's whose characters would take a kicking and keep going to win.). it's likely someone got into his ear telling him "it's not wrestling, you shouldn't be seen to lose so much." I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out to be vince mcmahon.
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Post by DichEvans on Aug 18, 2024 19:22:41 GMT -5
Think it was the studios choice, but Christian Bale did an American accent because they did not want to associate the guy playing Batman as English.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Aug 18, 2024 20:05:08 GMT -5
Jeremy Brett arguably the best Sherlock Holmes read all the books and kept a file of everything about the character's lore from eating habits to mannerisms and would insist on a script rewrite if anything contradicted his findings.
Recently Chris Hemsworth was the one who suggested Thor should become more of a comedic character after critical reaction to the early films was poor.
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Post by Talent Name on Aug 18, 2024 20:12:36 GMT -5
Begins and ends for me with Steven Seagal
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Post by Vampiro138 on Aug 18, 2024 20:51:35 GMT -5
Warren Beatty doing those hour long specials on TCM in character as Dick Tracy every few years so he can continue to hold onto the film rights is really something to behold.
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Post by mystermystery on Aug 18, 2024 21:28:16 GMT -5
Peter Falk was very protective of how Columbo was presented and often used his position to stop producers from bullying writers (who were often told not to write mannerisms for Columbo because Falk would handle all of that). He'd use his position to also get certain directors such as Jonathan Demme during times when no one else would hire him:
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Aug 18, 2024 21:58:44 GMT -5
The Rock has insisted his character always be the Hero He, Vin Diesel and Jason Statham also always include in their contracts that they can't lose a fight on screen. At least Statham was willing to parody himself in Spy.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 18, 2024 22:08:49 GMT -5
Peter Falk was very protective of how Columbo was presented and often used his position to stop producers from bullying writers (who were often told not to write mannerisms for Columbo because Falk would handle all of that). He'd use his position to also get certain directors such as Jonathan Demme during times when no one else would hire him: He also was very against the Mrs. Columbo series, his main point of contention being how much younger Kate Mulgrew was than him and what that'd imply about the Columbo marriage. There was a great many reasons that show bombed and was rendered basically the total opposite of canon, but it's kind of amusing to me how seriously he took that implication.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Aug 18, 2024 22:38:09 GMT -5
He didn't used to be like that, like he has played a lot of villains, all things considered, like in Pain & Gain, Doom, Get Smart, etc. It's weird that he eventually got so fragile about it. he got to the A list tier roles where losing on screen hurts your brand. the bigger he got physically the less his characters took a kicking leading into the invincible alpha male trope he's stuck in now ( and one upping the big name action stars of the 80's & 90's whose characters would take a kicking and keep going to win.). it's likely someone got into his ear telling him "it's not wrestling, you shouldn't be seen to lose so much." I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out to be vince mcmahon. I'm glad you mentioned that (the bolded), because it really didn't used to be like this. Apart from Steven Seagal, most action stars never had a problem taking a beating to advance the story, even during the alpha peak of the 80s. Hell, the entire third act of Rocky III is built around Rocky getting his ass kicked so hard it kills his mentor. There's no reason The Rock and Jason Statham in their 50s need to look stronger than Arnold and JCVD did in their 20s and 30s.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 18, 2024 22:50:39 GMT -5
he got to the A list tier roles where losing on screen hurts your brand. the bigger he got physically the less his characters took a kicking leading into the invincible alpha male trope he's stuck in now ( and one upping the big name action stars of the 80's & 90's whose characters would take a kicking and keep going to win.). it's likely someone got into his ear telling him "it's not wrestling, you shouldn't be seen to lose so much." I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out to be vince mcmahon. I'm glad you mentioned that (the bolded), because it really didn't used to be like this. Apart from Steven Seagal, most action stars never had a problem taking a beating to advance the story, even during the alpha peak of the 80s. Hell, the entire third act of Rocky III is built around Rocky getting his ass kicked so hard it kills his mentor. There's no reason The Rock and Jason Statham in their 50s need to look stronger than Arnold and JCVD did in their 20s and 30s. I guess maybe he is thinking of like, Commando Arnold, and not T2 Arnold, where the T-1000 beats the shit out of him for much of the film.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 18, 2024 22:55:48 GMT -5
The Rock has insisted his character always be the Hero He, Vin Diesel and Jason Statham also always include in their contracts that they can't lose a fight on screen. For me, this is completely cringe. I would be embarassed to even suggest that my character never loses a fight on screen. Imagine being so fragile.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 19, 2024 0:06:02 GMT -5
He, Vin Diesel and Jason Statham also always include in their contracts that they can't lose a fight on screen. For me, this is completely cringe. I would be embarassed to even suggest that my character never loses a fight on screen. Imagine being so fragile. It's a story that has taken on a life of its own. The "no-lose" clause only applies to the Fast & Furious movies, and even the "no-lose" part is a little blown out of proportion. Vin Diesel has a system where each hit he takes has a numerical value – one point for a punch, two for a kick, five for a headbutt, etc. – and he only allows a certain number of points to be scored against him per movie. Rock signed on for Fast Five and, upon learning of this, negotiated parity – he'd take an ass-kicking in his fight scene with Vin Diesel, but he had to have as many points scored on Vin as Vin had on him (it's worth noting, Rock's character loses the fight). When Statham signed on as a villain it was expected his character would be killed in the end, but he'd been given a heads-up on what Vin and Rock were doing, so he negotiated into his contract that his character could only take a certain amount of punishment (and again, his character loses the fight).
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Aug 19, 2024 1:19:04 GMT -5
I don't know about overly protective, but Kane Hodder played Jason Voorhees the most of any actor in the Friday the 13th franchise, and as he continued to play the part, he would insist that certain things in the scripts were not true to the character.
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