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Post by pinja on Aug 19, 2024 1:30:20 GMT -5
I remember some hilarious interviews with Christopher Lee where he wouldn't stop praising Saruman as the most important and powerful character in Lord of the Rings even though Saruman was already dead by the time of the third movie.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 19, 2024 1:30:39 GMT -5
For me, this is completely cringe. I would be embarassed to even suggest that my character never loses a fight on screen. Imagine being so fragile. It's a story that has taken on a life of its own. The "no-lose" clause only applies to the Fast & Furious movies, and even the "no-lose" part is a little blown out of proportion. Vin Diesel has a system where each hit he takes has a numerical value – one point for a punch, two for a kick, five for a headbutt, etc. – and he only allows a certain number of points to be scored against him per movie. Rock signed on for Fast Five and, upon learning of this, negotiated parity – he'd take an ass-kicking in his fight scene with Vin Diesel, but he had to have as many points scored on Vin as Vin had on him (it's worth noting, Rock's character loses the fight). When Statham signed on as a villain it was expected his character would be killed in the end, but he'd been given a heads-up on what Vin and Rock were doing, so he negotiated into his contract that his character could only take a certain amount of punishment (and again, his character loses the fight). It's still pretty pathetic. These are grown men in their 50s acting like five year olds playfighting in the playground. Just grow up, you bunch of fragile manchildren. |
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Aug 19, 2024 1:36:37 GMT -5
I have a clause in my contract here at FAN, that no poster is allowed to make me as look as stupid as I often make myself look on Fridays and wednesdays as long as their real name isn't Larry and they aren't wearing plaid pants.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 19, 2024 1:44:26 GMT -5
I don't know about overly protective, but Kane Hodder played Jason Voorhees the most of any actor in the Friday the 13th franchise, and as he continued to play the part, he would insist that certain things in the scripts were not true to the character. He was my favorite Jason, so I'm siding with Kane Hodder on this one. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 19, 2024 2:29:41 GMT -5
It's still pretty pathetic. These are grown men in their 50s acting like five year olds playfighting in the playground. Just grow up, you bunch of fragile manchildren. Oh, for sure. It's truly embarrassing behaviour, but not quite as bad as it would be if they were doing it on all their movies. Well, Vin Diesel aside, since the whole thing is born out of something he does do on all of his movies. |
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Post by thechase on Aug 19, 2024 3:41:35 GMT -5
I remember some hilarious interviews with Christopher Lee where he wouldn't stop praising Saruman as the most important and powerful character in Lord of the Rings even though Saruman was already dead by the time of the third movie. Maybe he's going by what he gets up to in the epilogue of the third book? |
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Post by Scoops on Aug 19, 2024 8:00:56 GMT -5
I don't know about overly protective, but Kane Hodder played Jason Voorhees the most of any actor in the Friday the 13th franchise, and as he continued to play the part, he would insist that certain things in the scripts were not true to the character. Likewise, Tobin Bell became very protective of Jigsaw and will rewrite scripts much the same. |
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Post by gerbilfacedgeek on Aug 19, 2024 9:04:25 GMT -5
I don't know about overly protective, but Kane Hodder played Jason Voorhees the most of any actor in the Friday the 13th franchise, and as he continued to play the part, he would insist that certain things in the scripts were not true to the character. He was my favorite Jason, so I'm siding with Kane Hodder on this one. Then there was him being so protective of Jason, he would call anyone else who played him after "little bitches". Cool guy, though. |
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 19, 2024 10:43:38 GMT -5
I'm glad you mentioned that (the bolded), because it really didn't used to be like this. Apart from Steven Seagal, most action stars never had a problem taking a beating to advance the story, even during the alpha peak of the 80s. Hell, the entire third act of Rocky III is built around Rocky getting his ass kicked so hard it kills his mentor. There's no reason The Rock and Jason Statham in their 50s need to look stronger than Arnold and JCVD did in their 20s and 30s. I guess maybe he is thinking of like, Commando Arnold, and not T2 Arnold, where the T-1000 beats the shit out of him for much of the film. Hell, Arnold let Sharon Stone get some good shots in during their fight scene in Total Recall. And even Commando had that one bruiser villain that’s presented as at least a challenge to fight. I think The Running Man was Arnold’s only big 80’s movie where he pretty much mops the floor with the bad guys. Only fight he’s in trouble in is the faked one where Body Ventura “kills” him. |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 19, 2024 11:03:12 GMT -5
For me, this is completely cringe. I would be embarassed to even suggest that my character never loses a fight on screen. Imagine being so fragile. Vin Diesel has a system where each hit he takes has a numerical value – one point for a punch, two for a kick, five for a headbutt, etc. – and he only allows a certain number of points to be scored against him per movie. This is literally insane. |
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Post by fortknox on Aug 19, 2024 12:25:18 GMT -5
I don't know about overly protective, but Kane Hodder played Jason Voorhees the most of any actor in the Friday the 13th franchise, and as he continued to play the part, he would insist that certain things in the scripts were not true to the character. The most famous one was kicking a dog.  |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 19, 2024 14:38:40 GMT -5
Vin Diesel has a system where each hit he takes has a numerical value – one point for a punch, two for a kick, five for a headbutt, etc. – and he only allows a certain number of points to be scored against him per movie. This is literally insane. Vin Diesel is a well known D&D fanatic in real life, I can't help but wonder if that's where he got the idea from. He's literally applying hit points to himself. |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Aug 19, 2024 15:08:49 GMT -5
I don't know about overly protective, but Kane Hodder played Jason Voorhees the most of any actor in the Friday the 13th franchise, and as he continued to play the part, he would insist that certain things in the scripts were not true to the character. The most famous one was kicking a dog. I'm pretty sure that's a picture of Ken Kirzinger, though. |
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Post by Schizo on Aug 19, 2024 15:21:39 GMT -5
I don't know about overly protective, but Kane Hodder played Jason Voorhees the most of any actor in the Friday the 13th franchise, and as he continued to play the part, he would insist that certain things in the scripts were not true to the character. The most famous one was kicking a dog. It is, from Freddy Vs Jason |
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Post by Error on Aug 19, 2024 15:30:25 GMT -5
The Rock has insisted his character always be the Hero I wonder how much of this is having 2 (or 3) young daughters now and seeing how being a heel might have had an effect on Ava growing up. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 19, 2024 17:05:08 GMT -5
The Rock has insisted his character always be the Hero I wonder how much of this is having 2 (or 3) young daughters now and seeing how being a heel might have had an effect on Ava growing up. Rock - "Kids, I was only a bad guy in WWE because they chanted "Die Rocky Die". |
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 19, 2024 19:35:06 GMT -5
It's a story that has taken on a life of its own. The "no-lose" clause only applies to the Fast & Furious movies, and even the "no-lose" part is a little blown out of proportion. Vin Diesel has a system where each hit he takes has a numerical value – one point for a punch, two for a kick, five for a headbutt, etc. – and he only allows a certain number of points to be scored against him per movie. Rock signed on for Fast Five and, upon learning of this, negotiated parity – he'd take an ass-kicking in his fight scene with Vin Diesel, but he had to have as many points scored on Vin as Vin had on him (it's worth noting, Rock's character loses the fight). When Statham signed on as a villain it was expected his character would be killed in the end, but he'd been given a heads-up on what Vin and Rock were doing, so he negotiated into his contract that his character could only take a certain amount of punishment (and again, his character loses the fight). It's still pretty pathetic. These are grown men in their 50s acting like five year olds playfighting in the playground. Just grow up, you bunch of fragile manchildren. It makes sense to the extent that action stars need to protect their image, but like, they go so far the other direction that it makes them less compelling. Like Dwayne does not have a "John McClain walks on broken glass" scene in him. He wouldn't understand why it'd ultimately make him look tougher, not weak. In general, the Rock has lost a good deal of range, and it contributes to Bautista and Cena running laps around him. Bautista's a stronger actor, anyway, but Rock does himself no favors by adhering so strongly to a type of role. |
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Aug 19, 2024 20:43:59 GMT -5
Jason Alexander with George Costanza
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