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Post by wolfmoon103100 on Dec 28, 2007 23:46:15 GMT -5
Most of my wife and get stuff like Type O negative,Clutch,Otep,Opeth.........Madonna. Have you been drinking? Be honest... yes, sir I am.
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Post by The OP on Dec 28, 2007 23:47:01 GMT -5
I thought so.
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 28, 2007 23:48:12 GMT -5
There was an article a few months back, and apparantly, the classic albums like Back In Black and such are still selling well. Kids are getting into them I suppose and people are physically going out to stores and buying these albums, and of course those songs are super easy to find for free. Yet these are selling
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Post by Panda Bear on Dec 28, 2007 23:50:53 GMT -5
Mostly everything Madison and everyone else said. Also Image and how the Media uses It.
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Post by The OP on Dec 28, 2007 23:52:48 GMT -5
There was an article a few months back, and apparantly, the classic albums like Back In Black and such are still selling well. Kids are getting into them I suppose and people are physically going out to stores and buying these albums, and of course those songs are super easy to find for free. Yet these are selling Exactly. That's because people want to own those albums. The only evidence that's ever been presented to support the idea that downloading prevents album sales is a drop in the sale of CDs put out by the four major companies. I could probably get a crapty bootleg of The Godfather on DVD, but I'll probably just buy it because it's a good movie that would be worth having a nice copy of. It's the same with a good album.
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Post by Loki on Dec 29, 2007 11:32:06 GMT -5
It's the "fast food" attitude that's killing the music industry.
And the fact 90% of the "artists" aren't really artists. Few can actually play an instrument, and even fewer have a personal, recognizable, style. Ditto for the singers.
You'd swap singers or musicians of different bands and not be able to tell the difference.
Most of the new music is pre-planned and the input of the artist isn't there anymore. The main goal is making X money in Y time. Once the name isn't selling anymore, a new one will be pushed to the moon.
Same goes for the cloning effect: a certain group/style is selling? Quick! let's manufact at least 10 clones of that so we can sell more and more!
In the end, the music business works by clichès: gangsta rapper, sexy young girl, antisocial punk, introspective artist, "evil" metal. And the old Household Names who'll sell and gey hyped no matter how crappy and self-parodic they've become
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Post by Mr.K-itty on Dec 29, 2007 12:25:37 GMT -5
i only have a few words to say on this topic... YOUUUUUUUUUUU!!! crank dat soulja boy....NOW SUPAMAN!!! yeah
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Post by fabulousfreebird on Dec 29, 2007 13:56:27 GMT -5
Not only does the music suck but the people making the music are so blah and so much a carbon copy of one another that no one gives a crap about them. There's no longevity in any of the acts out now. All the "rock" bands have "here today,gone tomorrow" written all over them. The rap and r&b stars are all the same. I mean we can only stomach listening to Jay Z and his pals yap about hopw much money and hos they have so much. It's all the same. Rock music began to die when grunge broke and killed the whole "bigger than life" rock star. Good job idiots! And rap and pop have merged and basically killed all forms of music. In short, it's no mystery why the top tours are classic rock acts who have been around for 30-40 years. It should come as no shock to anyone that people are clamoring for Led Zeppelin to tour. Because plain and simple, the music today...SUCKS!!
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 29, 2007 13:59:16 GMT -5
Well if these bands were ripping off a good band, say like all the bands that came out after the Beatles, it wouldn't be so bad
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 29, 2007 15:01:31 GMT -5
I do agree with the fact that we basically allow for monopolies in entertainment being a detriment. We've only got a few media companies out there (Viacom, GE (NBC), News Corporation (Fox), Disney, Time Warner), and they own all the news outlets, TV channels, movie studios, and record labels.
So, if anything isn't to their liking, it will NEVER be pushed as something mainstream or big. "Risky" acts will be pushed to the side, to the fringe, something they figure they can make money off of if it gains "cult status".
It's really unfortunate. But the Internet is what offers us hope.
With the Net, you technically have full freedom to find, listen to, play, watch, or enjoy anything you want. As people who are today in their teens and 20's, and even the younger ones, get older, I think we're going to create a MAJOR change in the way entertainment is presented in this society.
Ask yourself this: how much time have you spent watching TV of late? Now, how much time have you spent watching YouTube?
Outside of watching sporting events on TV, my time spent doing both aren't too far apart.
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Post by Near Fantastica on Dec 29, 2007 16:08:29 GMT -5
Music doesn't "suck". New music is just as good as old music, you just have to look in the right places. The problem with the music industry, and...well, actually, the problem lies within the listener. There are a HUGE majority of music "fans" who are content with simply listening to what the radio and MTV tell them to. They don't actively seek out new artists, or artists who don't sell 30 million cds, or have perfume or clothing ranges, and aren't plastered all over the music video stations.
What you hear on the radio is easily accessible music. It's mainstream. It's verse, chorus, verse. It's aurally pleasing to everyone, catchy and emotionless garbage. It's Mika, it's Britney, it's Nickleback, it's music that is repeated time and time again.
Let's face it, there are too many people who are mechanical music "fans". They will only turn to the radio or television to find new artists and will instantly go out and buy their record. This is where the problem lies. There is simply little to NO diversity in the music that is played on the radio and television. It's all can-be-easily-defined-genre-cliche-chorus-humming-verse-chorus-verse trite that should be eradicated and replaced with musicians that not only write their own music, but can play it themselves as well.
It angers me to no end when people like Madonna, Britney, Christina, Hillary Duff, Avril Lavigne et al are referred to as "artists". They're not artists. They're simply the tools necessary for these songs to make money. They are the faces that sell the records. It is a shame and an embarrassment that sex, tits and songs about money, "hoes" and "bling" are what it takes to sell records these days. 1950 must be laughing at us.
There are no influential musicians left (except Indie or smaller artists who get little to no recognition but are baffling with how talented they are) and it's becoming more and more hard to tell these bands apart. Where does Fall Out Boy start and My Chemical Romance end? Where does Creed begin and Nickleback end? Where does Hillary Duff differ from Hana Montana? How is Dido any different from Natalie Imbruglia? No-one stands out. No-one has anything to say. The songs are meaningless trite about relationships they've never had and tough times they've never lived in. I want songs to be real. I don't want the singer to sing words their producer wrote. Music needs emotion, it needs to be real, it needs to differ from one artist to the next, and sadly this is absent in mainstream music. There are too many rappers who look the same, rap the same, have the same beats, sing about hoes and blunts. There are too many teens singing about boyfriends. There are too many slutty singers. There are too many 30 year old pop-punk bands singing anthems for confused teens in black make up. Diversity is lacking. This is the problem.
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Post by Just a Guy on Dec 29, 2007 19:17:15 GMT -5
The internet has been good for music as a whole because it gives artists and bands that no one might have heard of before a chance I think it's more due to the fact that most mainstream stuff right now sucks.
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