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Post by themanwithnoname on Dec 20, 2006 20:58:48 GMT -5
Yeah those were awesome times and of course that's right after Flair had to give back the big gold belt. He did have another one that was made for him. I wonder what ever happend with that one. Unless it was a dream or something I thought he had another one. I think he sold the belt back to WCW for something like $40,000
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Dec 20, 2006 21:13:53 GMT -5
Historic no doubt. What could've been if Hogan just would've jobbed on his way out at Mania. Of course it is a lie to say he couldn't have lost by DQ to Flair in the ME. His match with Sid ended the exact way. He could do a crappy match with Sid that ends nothing but he couldn't lose to Flair and give us the biggest match ever while both were reasonably young? I hate Hogan so much.
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Post by imnotbooked on Dec 21, 2006 2:04:56 GMT -5
That's surreal seeing Flair at that point walking down the hallway at MSG.
Still crazy to think how wrong they were about putting that match around every arena in the country when it meant something.
It would of made the WWF some mad, dope ass, hug-you money mama.
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Post by skskillz on Dec 21, 2006 10:03:58 GMT -5
Historic no doubt. What could've been if Hogan just would've jobbed on his way out at Mania. Of course it is a lie to say he couldn't have lost by DQ to Flair in the ME. His match with Sid ended the exact way. He could do a crappy match with Sid that ends nothing but he couldn't lose to Flair and give us the biggest match ever while both were reasonably young? I hate Hogan so much. Flair had to lose the title that night. That's been the WrestleMania formula ever since it started. A face should leave as world champion (unless he's the boss's son-in-law). Make no mistake, Hogan would of gone over Flair at WM 8 if he didn't go on hiatus. Flair was booked to lose the title at WM one way or another. He was the transitional heel champion that was designed to job to the face, much like Slaughter was the year before. When Hogan couldn't win it, they had to put another top face in that spot, and that happened to be Savage. Forget Hogan's ego. If any of you think VINCE MCMAHON would of let the top NWA star beat the top WWF star in the biggest stage in wrestling, you're out of your friggin' mind.
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Dec 21, 2006 11:25:55 GMT -5
Historic no doubt. What could've been if Hogan just would've jobbed on his way out at Mania. Of course it is a lie to say he couldn't have lost by DQ to Flair in the ME. His match with Sid ended the exact way. He could do a crappy match with Sid that ends nothing but he couldn't lose to Flair and give us the biggest match ever while both were reasonably young? I hate Hogan so much. Flair had to lose the title that night. That's been the WrestleMania formula ever since it started. A face should leave as world champion (unless he's the boss's son-in-law). Make no mistake, Hogan would of gone over Flair at WM 8 if he didn't go on hiatus. Flair was booked to lose the title at WM one way or another. He was the transitional heel champion that was designed to job to the face, much like Slaughter was the year before. When Hogan couldn't win it, they had to put another top face in that spot, and that happened to be Savage. Forget Hogan's ego. If any of you think VINCE MCMAHON would of let the top NWA star beat the top WWF star in the biggest stage in wrestling, you're out of your friggin' mind. Flair doesn't have to go over cleanly. It could've taken Flair, Henning, Sid, and Heenan all interfering to get the job done. If Hogan is so much about doing what is good for the business he could've insisted that Vince make the match. He says he only wants to do what is good for the business and make a lot of money. Well that would mean facing Flair while both were reasonably young in the main event of the biggest PPV of them all. I don't doubt that Vince wouldn't have wanted it originally either. But if Hogan and Flair were on board with a finish then Vince would most likely give in to Hogan like he always does. Fact is Hogan didn't want to face Flair and lose no matter how much of a screwjob finish it was. He proved that in WCW where he made what should've been Ali/Frazier into a squash trilogy. I blame Hogan entirely and think of Flair situation every single time he says something about wanting to do what is best for the business.
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Post by darthpipes on Dec 21, 2006 11:43:34 GMT -5
Flair wrote in his book that he was supposed to go over Savage at Wrestlemania but Savage whined to McMahon and got the nod instead.
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Post by sabu on Dec 22, 2006 10:58:42 GMT -5
Flair wrote in his book that he was supposed to go over Savage at Wrestlemania but Savage whined to McMahon and got the nod instead. man... I just read that book and finished it in no time!
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Post by cocainedbrain on Dec 22, 2006 11:54:20 GMT -5
Flair had to lose the title that night. That's been the WrestleMania formula ever since it started. A face should leave as world champion (unless he's the boss's son-in-law). Wrestlemania 2000, April 2, 2000: Triple H retains vs Rock, Show, and Foley. October 25, 2003: Triple H & Stephanie McMahon officially get married, in real life, in front of 320 friends and co-workers.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 22, 2006 13:33:13 GMT -5
Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness Quit trying to pimp ROH Hey, they ask, and I provide. ;D
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Post by JoshWoodrumGreaterThanHBK on Jan 29, 2007 9:39:47 GMT -5
time tp bump this because i have a question:
Someone explain to me in detail..... exzactly what Hulk did to Flair in WCW?
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Post by The Boss on Jan 29, 2007 14:55:55 GMT -5
time tp bump this because i have a question: Someone explain to me in detail..... exzactly what Hulk did to Flair in WCW? Big Boot, Legdrop, 1-2-3! Actually HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN did nothing to Flair. Flair had this idea that if he jobbed the belt to HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN then HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN would job it right back to him at Clash of the Champions. But WCW was in the mist of a huge expansion and HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN was to be the main guy. So they didn't want him to job so soon. Nor should he have. Instead Flair won the rematch by count out and then lost a looser must retire cage match at Halloween Havoc. Of coarse we all know that the loser must retire thing never sticks and it didn't this time either. Flair has been bitter about this. But this was all Eric Bischoff's idea. And it worked. On HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S shoulders WCW went to heights never before seen in pro wrestling. So in retrospect it was actually a good thing that HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN and Flair never faced each other on a PPV in the WWF. It left the door open for WCW to promote the match themselves which lead to WCW's growth and the wonderful Monday night war. I have one of their rematches from a handheld in July 1993, in not-so-great quality. Hogan wins the match by DQ when he gets Yoko down with leg drop and Fuji runs hobbles in with the Japanese Flag and hits Hogan on the back with it. Does HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN bodyslam Yokozuna in that match?
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Post by The Boss on Jan 29, 2007 15:11:41 GMT -5
Yeah those were awesome times and of course that's right after Flair had to give back the big gold belt. He did have another one that was made for him. I wonder what ever happend with that one. Unless it was a dream or something I thought he had another one. You are correct. After pictures of Flair with the tag team title belt were getting out, the WWF had another belt made for Flair to carry. It wasn't an exact copy of the 10 pounds of gold, but it was close enough being that it was going to be video distorted anyway. That belt was used twice on WCW. When Flair was briefly suspended in 1994 and was challenged by HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN to a match at Halloween Havoc 1994 he was seen at home with the belt claiming to have retired as the World champion (even though he already lost the World title to HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN). The second time was when Vince Russo (or WUSS-o) as he calls himself with that Elmer Fudd accent of his) toured Flair's house (uninvited) and showed video of it. You got to see three belts in Flair's possession: The "WCW" World title belt (not the 10 pounds of gold) used by Luger, Big Van Vader and Ron Simmons etc..., the NWA World title belt (that was replaced by the 10 pounds of gold and looks like the one used on TNA), and the "real" World championship belt (the WWF's cheep imitation of the 10 pounds of gold). I believe that Wuss-o even brought those three belts to the ring the following week.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jan 29, 2007 15:19:25 GMT -5
THAT'S NOT FAIR TO FLAIR!
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