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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 25, 2007 11:17:17 GMT -5
Until they have matches on TV that last longer than 5 minutes, I just can't settle down and watch impact. I'm not thrilled with all the storyline after storyline after storyline rush they have on the show. Settle down, it's not a race. They should change the highlight package music to STORYLINE RUSH STORYLINE RUSH YEAH.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 25, 2007 11:58:05 GMT -5
Angle and Joe feud could have been gold. But I say flopped because it was rushed big time. The rematches should been spread about. The first match shouldn't have happened right away. They should made were they make the fans want to see real bad. They went with. Fans want to see. So lets give it to them as fast as we can. And the rematches right after that. They should have had MOTY classics. But they rushed it with time and hype. Truthfully, the Angle/Joe buildup, had about the same time as the HBK/Angle WM match, 2-3 months. The difference was that, while that thing was promoted on RAW & Smackdown for a while, and repeated after the match, while TNA had about an hour a week to promote Angle/Joe, and it got more time than the usual angles at the time. Problem, again, is time limits. Yea but the two rematches came on the next two PPVs right after it. The HBK/Angle rematch didn't happen on the next PPV. It happened at Vengences. That was almost three months later. Wrestlemanis was in in April, May had Blacklash and Judgement Day. Then there was ECW. Then the next Raw PPV were it happened. It was about 3 months for there first Match. It started the hyping and hints in the rumble that year when Angle attacked HBK o the floor. Joe and Angle was two months. First was Bound for Glory then next PPV they had there match. Plus Angle and Michaels had another match on Raw during the big special Raw homecoming. So the WWE spread it out as TNA bunched there matches together. Angle and Joe second matches was great. But that match didn't get the hype as it could have.
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Post by Doomrider on Jan 25, 2007 12:03:17 GMT -5
If they wrestled...I'd watch, but I'm so into Chikara right now TNA doesn't even exist.
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Post by WHATAMANOOOVER on Jan 25, 2007 12:08:21 GMT -5
If they wrestled...I'd watch Exactly my point. To get me interested in purchasing a TNA PPV, I need to see some wrestling. Right now, if I've never seen a TNA PPV, I'd have no reason not to believe their ppv matches last about 5 minutes long. If/when TNA gets 2 hours, I hope they change their formula of heavy storylines, very little wrestling.
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Post by Doomrider on Jan 25, 2007 12:12:17 GMT -5
If they wrestled...I'd watch Exactly my point. To get me interested in purchasing a TNA PPV, I need to see some wrestling. Right now, if I've never seen a TNA PPV, I'd have no reason not to believe their ppv matches last about 5 minutes long. If/when TNA gets 2 hours, I hope they change their formula of heavy storylines, very little wrestling. Plus USApe and the Patriot are united in Chikara!
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Post by hollywood on Jan 25, 2007 12:18:19 GMT -5
If/when TNA gets 2 hours, I hope they change their formula of heavy storylines, very little wrestling. With Russo in charge, I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jan 25, 2007 12:23:17 GMT -5
Russo's formula is Talking+Worked Shoots=Ratings That said, there are some people in TNA who are really great wrestlers that I like to watch--Christopher Daniels, Senshi, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 25, 2007 12:29:07 GMT -5
I think its getting a ton better. Undercard guys are getting character(something Russo always excelled at), Storylines are interesting, Wrestling is good. There was a time a few months ago where Impact was barely watchable. Now its becoming must-see. The internet doesn't want storylines, they want it treated like a sport. Pure competition. If that was true, then people would love the new idea of turning the X-Division into this shoot fighti thing with judges. That's like a sport. That's like pure competition. Guess what? THE INTERNET DOESN'T LIKE IT!
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Post by hollywood on Jan 25, 2007 12:49:18 GMT -5
The internet doesn't want storylines, they want it treated like a sport. Pure competition. If that was true, then people would love the new idea of turning the X-Division into this shoot fighti thing with judges. That's like a sport. That's like pure competition. Guess what? THE INTERNET DOESN'T LIKE IT! I think he was referring to treating the product like a sport, not necessarily trying to turn it into a legitimate one.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 25, 2007 12:59:47 GMT -5
Russo's formula is Talking+Worked Shoots=Ratings That said, there are some people in TNA who are really great wrestlers that I like to watch--Christopher Daniels, Senshi, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles. Considering where they seem to be going with Daniels, you might change your mind.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 25, 2007 15:06:02 GMT -5
The problem with most people is "too much talking, not enough wrestling". However, you can't really get that without going back to the old method of having 6 matches on PPV promoted on TV and the rest getting added at the last minute. Also, TNA has about 4-5 hours to promote that PPV. Take out commercials, and it's 200-250 minutes for the PPV. In contract, WWE has about 20 hours to promote each of it's brand's PPVs, and about 10 hours for the big PPV, if they don't do it before the last PPV they do. In order to fit all they want to do to lead to the PPV, they had to sacrific the match time. People don't relize that, if you put more wrestling there, you lose the vocal aspect of building the show. Now Russo is partially to blame, since he seems to try to fit a lot of things, but the truth is, without it, we have a show with good matches and no story. Unless they get more time, then people need to live with the neccessary evil of less time on wreslting in order to focus on the story, thus giving more of a reason for a fight on PPV than "Oh, they're booked." Perfect break down. Look at how ECW used to have long matches on their 60 minute show and then look at how DSD ended up. Would you people want 12 DSDs a year? what's DSD?
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Post by royboy8 on Jan 25, 2007 15:14:01 GMT -5
Angle and Joe feud could have been gold. But I say flopped because it was rushed big time. The rematches should been spread about. The first match shouldn't have happened right away. They should made were they make the fans want to see real bad. They went with. Fans want to see. So lets give it to them as fast as we can. And the rematches right after that. They should have had MOTY classics. But they rushed it with time and hype. I agree totally. At the least leave the rubber match for when one of the two guy's are champ. I didnt want to know who was "better" between Joe and Angle this early. I wanted it to mean more but by having a winner in the series this soon in Angle, I feel like this wasnt achieved.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 25, 2007 15:16:53 GMT -5
Russo's formula is Talking+Worked Shoots=Ratings That said, there are some people in TNA who are really great wrestlers that I like to watch--Christopher Daniels, Senshi, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles. Considering where they seem to be going with Daniels, you might change your mind. As I didn't see the main event, where are they headed with Christopher Daniels?
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 25, 2007 15:21:05 GMT -5
Considering where they seem to be going with Daniels, you might change your mind. As I didn't see the main event, where are they headed with Christopher Daniels? Heel turn it sounded like.
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Post by Shy Guy on Jan 25, 2007 15:27:05 GMT -5
i'm a firm beliver that aj styles should have his mouth duct tape shut.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 25, 2007 15:29:40 GMT -5
Considering where they seem to be going with Daniels, you might change your mind. As I didn't see the main event, where are they headed with Christopher Daniels? They showed a promo he cut after Final Resolution after he lost the X title, and he questioned his ability and his heart, and basically looked like he was throwing a pity party for himself. Then after he lost to Christian (after a really bad Unprettier) he sat and sulked in the ring. Looks like they're going the "whiny loser" route with him.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jan 25, 2007 15:51:34 GMT -5
First things first: I sincerely hope they don't turn Christopher Daniels into a whiny emo or something. His heel character from 2005 was perfect for him, that's what he should have continued to do.
Secondly to all the people who are saying "TNA is still better than Raw", yes that may be true.... but the fish tank at Charlie's Bait Shop is better than Raw right now, so it's not saying much.
Lastly, I stopped watching TNA altogether a few months ago. I felt like they just had way too much talking. I am all for character development, and I am all for storylines since they do in fact give way more meaning to the whole show. However I feel like they were giving so much emphasis to the storylines that they almost removed the wrestling altogether. TNA has some of the best wrestlers in the world, they don't work a grounded safe style, and TNA matches are some of the most exciting I have ever seen. So to devote 3/4ths of the show to talking is counter-productive in my opinion. I hope that TNA can regain its focus, since i would love to start watching it and caring about it again.
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Post by AmericanDragon420 on Jan 25, 2007 15:56:23 GMT -5
Perfect break down. Look at how ECW used to have long matches on their 60 minute show and then look at how DSD ended up. Would you people want 12 DSDs a year? what's DSD? *D2D...damn I botched that.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Jan 25, 2007 16:18:23 GMT -5
This week had more wrestling but it's not enough I think. I think we can all agree that TNA needs two hours. And Smackdown> IMPACT> Raw> ECW
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 25, 2007 17:13:12 GMT -5
I didn't get the impression emo angle with Daniels. I got the impression that he's been looking out for others, and where has it got him.
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