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Post by robferatu on Jan 24, 2007 22:48:23 GMT -5
I know this is a highly debated topic.
But, I recently begin to think the TNA is getting alot better. Sure, there are flaws, but it is pretty much impossible to have a wrestling program without flaws. Lately I've been seeing more positives than negatives when it comes to TNA.
First off. Christian Cage as the heel NWA Champion. I think thus far is doing a superb job. He's that cool, cocky heel that people love to hate. Unlike Jarrett, who people seem to just hate.
Abyss/Sting Fued. At first I was really iffy on this fued being built around Abyss' secret, I thought it would completely kill Abyss' gimmick, but as the fued has drawn out I've found myself very entertained and impressed at how they have went about it.
AJ Styles as heel. I never really thought it could work. Styles just has that natural all-american good guy look about him, but he's become my second favorite TNA heel behind Christian Cage. Although he isn't that special on the mic I don't feel he lacks because in his matches his heelish actions come across really well.
Although there is still room for improvement when it comes to Chris Sabin as heel, I feel he's a young Christian Cage and within time will be at that same level and I'm highly enjoying his fued with Lynn as the moment.
TNA still has it's flaws.
Although the PCS/Nash segments are very entertaining they ultimately don't do anything to help the X Division.
and I still feel that the Kurt Angle/Samoa Joe fued was a flopped as was ultimately too rushed.
Anyways, What does everyone else think? Is TNA improving?
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Post by AmericanDragon420 on Jan 24, 2007 22:54:11 GMT -5
People will complain about the lack of wrestling and how Impact is so heavily based around angles and promos. But I mean looking at tonights show, aside from maybe the VKM stuff, everything was atleast solid IMO.
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Post by reggaebreedshate on Jan 24, 2007 22:54:42 GMT -5
i really believe it is getting better no one wants to be optmistic, anything that don't think will work. No one wants to see that for 42 minutes of time on the air, they do a pretty good job getting people to try the ppv. they are trying different storylines, and I think it's unique and cool. Especially involving Joe, Kurt, Chrisitan, and Tomoko and hinting who it is then just blantly saying it or waiting on till the ppv. The X-division is not dead, they have 2 major fueds, and they have really just begun, and people can't wait and declare it dead. Rhino/ AJ is fun and having AJ outsmart Rhino is a nice change of pace then havng the heels look dumb all the time. So TNA is way better then a year ago, and will continue to get bette in my eyes.
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Post by nostradumbass on Jan 24, 2007 22:55:22 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by AmericanDragon420 on Jan 24, 2007 22:57:26 GMT -5
i really believe it is getting better no one wants to be optmistic Well Russo's booking it, so it has to suck[/Meltzer or his IWC sheep]
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Post by KingPopper on Jan 24, 2007 22:57:39 GMT -5
I remember in 05 all the ppvs looked most the same,
some team canada match
some randon x-division match
some 3 man tag match
jarrett makes someone job.
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Post by reggaebreedshate on Jan 24, 2007 22:58:34 GMT -5
they're now showing that X-division champs can hang with the NWA Champ, I duno about you, that shows you have some upward mobility.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 24, 2007 23:00:35 GMT -5
The problem with most people is "too much talking, not enough wrestling". However, you can't really get that without going back to the old method of having 6 matches on PPV promoted on TV and the rest getting added at the last minute.
Also, TNA has about 4-5 hours to promote that PPV. Take out commercials, and it's 200-250 minutes for the PPV. In contract, WWE has about 20 hours to promote each of it's brand's PPVs, and about 10 hours for the big PPV, if they don't do it before the last PPV they do. In order to fit all they want to do to lead to the PPV, they had to sacrific the match time. People don't relize that, if you put more wrestling there, you lose the vocal aspect of building the show.
Now Russo is partially to blame, since he seems to try to fit a lot of things, but the truth is, without it, we have a show with good matches and no story.
Unless they get more time, then people need to live with the neccessary evil of less time on wreslting in order to focus on the story, thus giving more of a reason for a fight on PPV than "Oh, they're booked."
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 24, 2007 23:01:40 GMT -5
I'll admit it got better tonight, they gave their main event more than 3 minutes. I still say they need to balance the wrestling-to-promo ratio.
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Post by MGH on Jan 24, 2007 23:03:54 GMT -5
I was enjoying it more before Russo got there (Sorry, but it's true), so I can't say I think it's getting better.
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Post by AmericanDragon420 on Jan 24, 2007 23:04:07 GMT -5
The problem with most people is "too much talking, not enough wrestling". However, you can't really get that without going back to the old method of having 6 matches on PPV promoted on TV and the rest getting added at the last minute. Also, TNA has about 4-5 hours to promote that PPV. Take out commercials, and it's 200-250 minutes for the PPV. In contract, WWE has about 20 hours to promote each of it's brand's PPVs, and about 10 hours for the big PPV, if they don't do it before the last PPV they do. In order to fit all they want to do to lead to the PPV, they had to sacrific the match time. People don't relize that, if you put more wrestling there, you lose the vocal aspect of building the show. Now Russo is partially to blame, since he seems to try to fit a lot of things, but the truth is, without it, we have a show with good matches and no story. Unless they get more time, then people need to live with the neccessary evil of less time on wreslting in order to focus on the story, thus giving more of a reason for a fight on PPV than "Oh, they're booked." Perfect break down. Look at how ECW used to have long matches on their 60 minute show and then look at how DSD ended up. Would you people want 12 DSDs a year?
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Post by mysterydriver on Jan 24, 2007 23:04:43 GMT -5
Sure, it is developing nicely. Tonight's show was fine. People just like to razz on TNA for the talking since their slogan is "We Are Wrestling."
A line like that begs for attitude from other people.
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Post by AmandaJ on Jan 24, 2007 23:05:02 GMT -5
It's generally hit or miss. I have to say I like it more often than I don't. Christian was gold tonight and any time he's a predominant part of the show, I like it infinitely more.
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Post by Error on Jan 24, 2007 23:06:30 GMT -5
I was enjoying it more before Russo got there (Sorry, but it's true), so I can't say I think it's getting better. I used to disagree with that but, the past 2 months have blown that out of the water. I don't know if its Russo or whoever paces the show but, its been going down hill, IMO.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 24, 2007 23:06:39 GMT -5
Angle and Joe feud could have been gold. But I say flopped because it was rushed big time. The rematches should been spread about. The first match shouldn't have happened right away. They should made were they make the fans want to see real bad.
They went with. Fans want to see. So lets give it to them as fast as we can. And the rematches right after that.
They should have had MOTY classics. But they rushed it with time and hype.
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Post by AmericanDragon420 on Jan 24, 2007 23:09:11 GMT -5
Angle and Joe feud could have been gold. But I say flopped because it was rushed big time. The rematches should been spread about. The first match shouldn't have happened right away. They should made were they make the fans want to see real bad. They went with. Fans want to see. So lets give it to them as fast as we can. And the rematches right after that. They should have had MOTY classics. But they rushed it with time and hype. I thought the 2nd match was TNA's MOTY for 06. And probably top 3 between WWE and TNA.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 24, 2007 23:12:57 GMT -5
Angle and Joe feud could have been gold. But I say flopped because it was rushed big time. The rematches should been spread about. The first match shouldn't have happened right away. They should made were they make the fans want to see real bad. They went with. Fans want to see. So lets give it to them as fast as we can. And the rematches right after that. They should have had MOTY classics. But they rushed it with time and hype. Truthfully, the Angle/Joe buildup, had about the same time as the HBK/Angle WM match, 2-3 months. The difference was that, while that thing was promoted on RAW & Smackdown for a while, and repeated after the match, while TNA had about an hour a week to promote Angle/Joe, and it got more time than the usual angles at the time. Problem, again, is time limits.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jan 24, 2007 23:17:56 GMT -5
When TNA gets that second hour, the free TV wrestling quality will go up (or it better) and they won't have to cram stuff in. They can slow it down a bit and have more time for stuff to sink in.
I think more than ever, they're ready for a second hour.
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Post by wwerules60 on Jan 24, 2007 23:18:44 GMT -5
I just saw Eric Young and Jermey Borash buying condoms together. I think its getting worse
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Post by "IcePic" Rick Cobos on Jan 24, 2007 23:19:05 GMT -5
If TNA gets a second hour, then expect more 20 minute interviews, with an occassional 10+ minute match thrown in.
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