JLAJRC
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Post by JLAJRC on Jan 17, 2007 15:06:00 GMT -5
In the past, these things sucked because they would put mat and technical wrestlers on these things and it wouldn't work. They were usually scared for their lives from falling and the scaffold was so small you couldn't really wrestle on it. Basically, wrestlers who were in them shouldn't have been in them at all.
Nowadays, with todays high flyers and wrestlers regularly falling or being thrown from ladders, cages, and other great heights, I think it would work better today. Wrestlers are taking more risks than ever before and it has resulted in great matches. Frankly, with all of the TLC matches that the Hardys/Dudleys/Edge & Christian were involved in, I'm surprised the WWE didn't at least try one with them. Or a Shane McMahon Scaffold match.
What do you think?
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Jan 17, 2007 15:08:23 GMT -5
With the right wrestlers, like the TLC Troika, probably, but if the whole point is to not fall off, then what advantage is there besides they're not afraid of heights?
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JLAJRC
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Post by JLAJRC on Jan 17, 2007 15:33:49 GMT -5
With the right wrestlers, like the TLC Troika, probably, but if the whole point is to not fall off, then what advantage is there besides they're not afraid of heights? Now that you mention it, that would be weird. So I say, let's change the rules. I would put the titles on the scaffold. I would then have the wrestlers start off the scaffold and the first to climb the scaffold (and at the same time repeatedly throwing your opponants off it) and retrieve the titles win. Yea, it's basically another version of a ladder match, but the height would be higher. |
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 17, 2007 15:43:42 GMT -5
WWE will never do this.
Why?
Two words..
Owen Hart
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Post by Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture on Jan 17, 2007 15:46:58 GMT -5
WWE will never do this. Why? Two words.. Owen Hart Of course they will. Because the creative writers are too young to know who Owen Hart was, or have never watched a RAW that predated 2004. |
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Post by dirtydickraines on Jan 17, 2007 15:48:03 GMT -5
Scaffold matches are too dangerous and most guys don't want to take a big, unnecessary bump.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 17, 2007 15:48:05 GMT -5
WWE will never do this. Why? Two words.. Owen Hart Of course they will. Because the creative writers are too young to know who Owen Hart was, or have never watched a RAW that predated 2004. ... I may stand corrected. |
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Jan 17, 2007 15:51:58 GMT -5
No. I don't even know why they would do one in the first place.
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Post by Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture on Jan 17, 2007 15:52:20 GMT -5
Of course they will. Because the creative writers are too young to know who Owen Hart was, or have never watched a RAW that predated 2004. ... I may stand corrected. Jokes aside, a scaffold match wouldn't be as high up as the height that Owen fell (I think it was over 50 feet.). If you had wrestlers who were dead serious about doing it, and taking a fall from it, and if it was booked/hyped properly, then yes, I think it could work. But if it turns out to be one of those old WCW disasters where the guys end up hanging on to the rail because they get scared, then people will hate it. |
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Jan 17, 2007 15:52:52 GMT -5
I think if they modified it a bit. Maybe had the scaffold go all around the ring or something. Or possibly, like someone said, make it a modified ladder match where you have to climb up the scaffold to claim the belts. It might work.
But the original poster's point is valid. More wrestlers now are willing to take risks and are not strictly mat wrestlers.
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Post by BHB on Jan 17, 2007 15:58:16 GMT -5
I've never seen the appeal of scaffold matches.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Jan 17, 2007 16:07:44 GMT -5
It will never happen in the WWE. I think the Scaffold match is one of the worst gimmick matches one can do.
Now in indy's, with a guy like Jack Evans or the spot monkey guys, I'm sure they could do one.
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JLAJRC
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Post by JLAJRC on Jan 17, 2007 16:30:01 GMT -5
WWE will never do this. Why? Two words.. Owen Hart Who said that the WWE had to do it? What about TNA? |
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Post by MoleMan on Jan 17, 2007 16:44:36 GMT -5
They suck and they'reextremely dangerous. A TLC or ladder match is 10X more entertaining and 1/10 as dangerous. There's no point in doing them.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jan 17, 2007 17:31:40 GMT -5
CZW's Cage of Death 5 "Suspended" is the best scaffold/cage match ever. That concept works. Observe. |
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 17, 2007 17:39:32 GMT -5
There's no point in doing a scaffold match.
Essentially, the whole thing exists only to see someone fall really far and do one dangerous bump.
You can't have a good match up there, and even if you did, nobody would care, because they just want to see some guy fall really far.
You might as well not even bother with the match and have someone jump off a ledge or balcony or something.
Then again, you could also just have a regular match, and leave dangerous, stupid and unnecessary falls like that to movie stuntmen.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 17, 2007 18:04:44 GMT -5
CZW's Cage of Death 5 "Suspended" is the best scaffold/cage match ever. That concept works. Observe.That was the more retarded thing I've ever seen in my life. For God's sake. |
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Post by Garee on Jan 17, 2007 18:06:33 GMT -5
It would be cool to see on WWE I just wouldn't hold my breath
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Post by STMP on Jan 17, 2007 18:10:49 GMT -5
No, it would suck anyway.
The scaffold is small, there are no ropes to use and it will end with one big bump that everybody is expecting.
The only appeal is a holy shit moment and wrestlers who are afraid of getting hurt, but that can easily be achieved with a barded wire match, a hell in a cell match or a regular cage match.
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Post by T Vang is a HO-DADDY~! on Jan 17, 2007 19:25:05 GMT -5
Everyone who posted ahead of me is definitely correct, in a match where they start on the scaffold-horrible because what can you do up there and you know what's gonna happen. If they start on the ground, they could have a 5 star classic but no one would care because all you're waiting for is for the wrestlers to get up on the scaffold.
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