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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 18, 2007 18:58:45 GMT -5
Another article blaming wrestling for violence. There's a lot of blah, blah, blahing, so I bolded the wrestling related stuff, it's at the bottom.
Children exposed to too much violence in the media, parents, teachers warn By: The Canadian Press at 6:49 on January 18, 2007, EST. Professor Peter Jaffe (centre) and Emily Noble,(right) listen as President of the Ontario Secondary School Teachers Federation Rhonda Kimberley-Young responds. (CP PHOTO/Adrian Wyld)
TORONTO (CP) - Canadian children are being exposed to far too much violence in music lyrics, video games and on television and need to be protected by laws similar to those that restrict the sale of tobacco to minors, a coalition of teachers and parents said Wednesday.
The group called for age-based restrictions on music sales, similar to existing systems that prevent underaged consumers from obtaining inappropriate movies and video games. They also called for controls that would prevent radio and television stations from airing violent content before 9 p.m.
"We have listened to the research, and cigarette packs now carry large and graphic warnings about the dangers of smoking," Professor Peter Jaffe of the University of Western Ontario told a news conference.
"Where are the warnings on the many forms of media violence readily accessible by children? Tiny ratings stickers just don't cut it any more."
Jaffe cited decades of "clear and compelling" evidence that he said illustrates the long-lasting negative impact of violent media on children, and said medical and mental health experts agree it has become a very serious problem.
"Viewing entertainment violence can lead to increases in aggressive attitudes, values and behaviour, particularly in children," he said.
"We've been exposed to more and more (violence) so that we've gotten desensitized. We no longer get outraged because we've seen it all."
The teachers, trustees and parent groups said it's not just video images on television and the Internet that are exposing children to violent behaviour.
"Music has escaped the need for classification, despite the fact that the music industry has gone the way of film, television and video games in producing explicity violent, sexual material," said Rhonda Kimberley-Young, president of the Ontario Secondary School Teachers' Federation.
"We believe that some of this material is damaging to children and youth and should be restricted to those over the age of 18."
In addition to the music classification system and changes to the Broadcasting Act, the coalition also called on the federal government to amend the Criminal Code to add women to the list of groups that are protected under the section prohibiting public incitement of hatred.
"We believe that leaving girls and women off the list compromises their safety," Kimberley-Young said.
"Recommendations to add "sex" or "gender" to the groups protected by the public incitement of hatred law have been on the table for at least 20 years now."
During the news conference, the group showed a video depicting huge, bulked-up professional wrestlers attacking women and ripping off their clothes as an example of the type of violence against women that kids can routinely see on television - images Jaffe said he hoped would not be allowed if the law were changed.
"There's a different reality today, and we're asking for people to take a sober, second look at it," he said. "Clearly there are going to be test cases, and wrestling may be one where hopefully society will say those images are no longer acceptable."
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Post by tommyvercetti on Jan 18, 2007 19:02:25 GMT -5
I think people with violent tendancies are more drawn to violent aspects of popular culture. I dont think there are too many same people driven to do violence by popular culture. If their minds and wills are weak enough for a game, wrestling match or song lyric to have that effect than something else would have set them off.
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Post by tommyvercetti on Jan 18, 2007 19:04:13 GMT -5
Also......and I say this as a Christian so don't flame me..nothing has caused more violence than mis interpretation of religious text..yet if we were to try to get a warning sticker on one of those or a ban on their sale we'd be labeled fascists.
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Post by Error on Jan 18, 2007 19:15:31 GMT -5
I'll agree that a lot of what is popular today should not be seen or heard by young kids. However, this in no way needs laws prohibiting things or restricting that sale of items to consenting people. It is a parenting issue pure and simple. If you don't want Lil' Johnny Numbnuts watching wrestling, then tell him not to, punish him if he does and, spend some of your money to buy something (like a V Chip TV or one of the boxes that blocks out programming) that will block it out or get rid of your cable or satellite so he can't see it. Why punish me because you had to have kids (or forgot your birth control before the last drunken barn dance)?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 18, 2007 19:16:38 GMT -5
There's a pic on the Net of a Bible with a warning sticker on it. I'd post it, but it would just end badly. So I won't...but, it exists. In picture form.
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Post by therob on Jan 18, 2007 19:22:47 GMT -5
Every time this comes up it makes me want to get very violent. I don’t understand how people still buy into this crap about violent media making people more violent. What about the parents who aren’t spending time parenting there kids and leaving the TV to raise them. Nobody wants to take responsibility anymore they just want the government to handle it. I was allowed to watch almost anything I wanted growing up. but my mom was there to explain to me why I shouldn’t emulate what is on TV. Why saying the words actors in movies say is disrespectful. She was being a parent. Even when I had toy guns she would tell me to never point it at people. Why is parenting such a foreign concept to people nowadays.
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Post by "IcePic" Rick Cobos on Jan 18, 2007 19:25:39 GMT -5
This stuff doesn't make me angry anymore to be honest; I find it to be comedic. I can't help but laugh at idiots who believe this shit; it's not going to hurt the industry's reputation, so to me, it's just a pathetic, yet comical, example of society in general.
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Post by Matt Rogers on Jan 18, 2007 19:35:11 GMT -5
I'll be honest though...
I think I've got my rolling back chop down to perfection now, and if I can't find someone to take it, I'll be doing it to an old man as I kill him and teabag his wife.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 18, 2007 20:14:54 GMT -5
I agree with Biafra; it's not a matter of media making people violent, it's that violent people are drawn to violent media. It's not exactly hard to imagine.
Now, I can buy the argument that too much violence and whatnot in media ends up desensitizing us as a society to things like that, but even then, come on; TV shows, movies, music, and video games ALL come with either warnings about their content and/or actual maturity ratings. They're there for a reason.
Ignore all the tasteless skits, the half-naked women, and any offensive language; when it comes to pro wrestling, it shouldn't take too many brain cells to figure out "Hey, my six year old is watching a show where two guys spend 10 minutes looking like they're kicking the crap out of each other, I better step in and explain a few things to him about how the real world works."
I say this as someone who started watching wrestling at 6 years old. The worst thing that ever came from me watching it were the occasions when I'd powerbomb my little brother onto a bed.
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Post by therob on Jan 18, 2007 20:28:54 GMT -5
I agree with Biafra; it's not a matter of media making people violent, it's that violent people are drawn to violent media. It's not exactly hard to imagine. Now, I can buy the argument that too much violence and whatnot in media ends up desensitizing us as a society to things like that, but even then, come on; TV shows, movies, music, and video games ALL come with either warnings about their content and/or actual maturity ratings. They're there for a reason.Ignore all the tasteless skits, the half-naked women, and any offensive language; when it comes to pro wrestling, it shouldn't take too many brain cells to figure out "Hey, my six year old is watching a show where two guys spend 10 minutes looking like they're kicking the crap out of each other, I better step in and explain a few things to him about how the real world works." I say this as someone who started watching wrestling at 6 years old. The worst thing that ever came from me watching it were the occasions when I'd powerbomb my little brother onto a bed. Then your sibling gets you in trouble
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Post by -Lithium- on Jan 18, 2007 21:14:20 GMT -5
God f*** off and take care of your kids...
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 19, 2007 2:13:23 GMT -5
I remember the first time I dropped an anvil on my brother's head. The best part was the acordian noise he made.
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Post by dennisisevil on Jan 19, 2007 2:18:44 GMT -5
I remember the first time I dropped an anvil on my brother's head. The best part was the acordian noise he made. I still remember that time I hotfooted one of my teachers. Yep you should seen her hopping and yelping allover the room. Can't understand why she gave me all Fs even in classes she didn't teach though.
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Post by HRH The KING on Jan 19, 2007 5:59:59 GMT -5
Little Billy: "Hey dad, can I watch wrestling"
Dad: "No"
Little Billy: "Please!!!"
Dad: "Don't make me tell you twice"
Problem solved. Parental responsibility reigns supreme.
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Post by TripleMerc on Jan 19, 2007 6:15:57 GMT -5
I think people with violent tendancies are more drawn to violent aspects of popular culture. I dont think there are too many same people driven to do violence by popular culture. If their minds and wills are weak enough for a game, wrestling match or song lyric to have that effect than something else would have set them off. Of course. I've seen it all. (I browse 4chan, so some of it may or may not have been willingly as well) With all the shit I've seen, you would think that I would be a cruel, bitter, torturous soul. And yes, I am. When I'm being sarcastic. Realistically, I am a nice person, who couldn't hurt a fly. (Unless that fly punched me in the F---in' face. Then it's getting it's little head ripped off.
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Post by Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture on Jan 19, 2007 7:38:21 GMT -5
Little Billy: "Hey dad, can I watch wrestling" Dad: "No" Little Billy: "Please!!!" Dad: "Don't make me tell you twice"Problem solved. Parental responsibility reigns supreme. you forgot to mention the sound of a leather belt being pulled out of belt loops. THAT sound can scare anybody under 17 years of age.
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Post by emoney3265 on Jan 19, 2007 9:05:00 GMT -5
I hate these news stories. Whenever a child, WHO HAS PARENTS, is being "voilent" then it's the PARENTS job to straighten it out. It's like the FCC. We shouldn't have it as everyone learns those "potty mouth" words and most of us use them daily such as I.
I remember my mom was overbearing and what not and blocked certain stations. She blocked out E! and VH1 and MTV. Yea talk about lame. I probably was never allowed to watch wrestling as my mom didn't let me watch power rangers because once, I kicked my grandpa in the shin and he bled. (Guys I was like 4). That is stuff that can be straightened out by punishing, not frickin taking it away all together. Teach your kids to be responsible and disciplined.
I'm just an angry little rebellent teen as some people refer to most teenagers now-a-days. We all just can't wait to move out because of over-bearing parents such as mine. They aren't that bad anymore and no... they don't block stuff. I've seen porn. I've spoken bad words. I'm just as immoral as any other human no matter how they raised me. I am just like every other young kid and it will always be in society so deal with it people.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 19, 2007 9:35:24 GMT -5
"We have listened to the research, and cigarette packs now carry large and graphic warnings about the dangers of smoking," Professor Peter Jaffe of the University of Western Ontario told a news conference. "
And we all know that no one smokes anymore. Especially teenagers!
Also I agree 100% with Biafra on the religion/violence connection, or, did I miss the Great Wrestling Crusade where millions were slaughtered because they liked a certain wrestler more than another?
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Post by Matt Rogers on Jan 19, 2007 9:36:41 GMT -5
This is why I'll be bringing my kid up on the right kind of wrestling...
People getting dropped on their head.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 19, 2007 11:21:04 GMT -5
This is why I'll be bringing my kid up on the right kind of wrestling... People getting dropped on their head. Yeah, I really hope my son's first word (If I HAVE a son one day) will be "VAAAAAAAY-DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" (How they always seem to announce Vader's name, especially on VPW 2) or "BRRRRRRRAINBUSSTAAAAAAAAAO!"
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