Lino
Samurai Cop
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 8:38:38 GMT -5
Post by Lino on Jan 16, 2007 8:38:38 GMT -5
What was the point of even giving him the NWA Championship only to lose it to another heel? They could've gotten the same thing out of this angle if they had just kept the belt on Sting and had him lose to Christian Cage at Final Resolution.
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 8:55:58 GMT -5
Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Jan 16, 2007 8:55:58 GMT -5
There are two reasons...
1. Storyline. It put Abyss in the middle of everything because he had the title. 2. Internet. It wasn't expected, which is something Russo loves to do. Besides, the internet was begging for a title run, and Russo granted it.
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EJS
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 10:06:22 GMT -5
Post by EJS on Jan 16, 2007 10:06:22 GMT -5
If Abyss didn't have the title, Chrisitan/Tomko wouldn't have been stalking him. So the storyline would be totally different.
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 10:30:09 GMT -5
Post by THE REDNECK BADASS on Jan 16, 2007 10:30:09 GMT -5
That is one reason I like Vince Russo because he will listen to the fans and grant them their wishes
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 11:54:04 GMT -5
Post by odanobunaga on Jan 16, 2007 11:54:04 GMT -5
But...I liked AByss as the champion way better than Cage :/...
...Why don´t you listen to me Russo? Why you don´t return my calls? Why do you left me alone in the rain?
You don´t love me anymore? It´s because I am fat, isn´t it?!
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Byakugan
Unicron
To my peeps and you fools, say it loud and say it proud, Christian rules!
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 11:55:13 GMT -5
Post by Byakugan on Jan 16, 2007 11:55:13 GMT -5
Abyss is a nobody.
He was given the title to give him some credibility but he is a jobber to the stars in the end
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 12:58:24 GMT -5
Post by rrm15 on Jan 16, 2007 12:58:24 GMT -5
I hate short title reigns.
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 13:58:16 GMT -5
Post by Ultimo Chocula on Jan 16, 2007 13:58:16 GMT -5
I hate short title reigns. Which is pretty much what Russo does. At least it didn't go back to Jarrett.
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Chainsaw
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It is what it is
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 14:31:28 GMT -5
Post by Chainsaw on Jan 16, 2007 14:31:28 GMT -5
That is one reason I like Vince Russo because he will listen to the fans and grant them their wishes Y'know what I want to see in TNA? Me and Ariel on a vacation in the Bahamas for a month. BOOK IT, VINNY!!
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Lino
Samurai Cop
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 14:46:59 GMT -5
Post by Lino on Jan 16, 2007 14:46:59 GMT -5
Abyss is a nobody. He was given the title to give him some credibility but he is a jobber to the stars in the end That's what I was thinking. I still think of him as a lesser version of Kane circa 1999. Hopefully Russo doesn't make David Arquette the NWA Champion anytime soon.
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 17:29:25 GMT -5
Post by samachine on Jan 16, 2007 17:29:25 GMT -5
Abyss is a nobody. He was given the title to give him some credibility but he is a jobber to the stars in the end What stars? all I see is Edge's Brother
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Byakugan
Unicron
To my peeps and you fools, say it loud and say it proud, Christian rules!
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 17:32:15 GMT -5
Post by Byakugan on Jan 16, 2007 17:32:15 GMT -5
I hate short title reigns. I do hate short title reigns.... But it was Abyss.... and not THAT short
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 18:41:21 GMT -5
Post by Error on Jan 16, 2007 18:41:21 GMT -5
At least it didn't go back to Jarrett. This most consecutive World Title reigns in TNA history that do not involve Jeff Jarrett holding the title. Christian is also only the fourth person in the TNA to be a multi time World Champ.
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 19:01:09 GMT -5
Post by KingPopper on Jan 16, 2007 19:01:09 GMT -5
Made more sence then AJ defeating Jarretts endless reign only to drop the title to Raven the next month in that King of the montian match.
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 20:03:42 GMT -5
Post by Throwback on Jan 16, 2007 20:03:42 GMT -5
Now that Russo is in TNA and since he was interviewed for this site he obviously knows about it. so do you think he has people watching this fourm?
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ICBM
King Koopa
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Abyss
Jan 16, 2007 20:29:23 GMT -5
Post by ICBM on Jan 16, 2007 20:29:23 GMT -5
He is likely watching yes. In the spirit of this allow me to say this...don't screw this up dude. Keep the logic. Good so far but then again I thought that in late 99 as well.
Abyss<Cage nuff said. It was unexpected much the same as Jerico being the one to unify the WWE and WCW world belts. Good call
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krzykraka
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Abyss
Jan 17, 2007 11:49:30 GMT -5
Post by krzykraka on Jan 17, 2007 11:49:30 GMT -5
Now that Russo is in TNA and since he was interviewed for this site he obviously knows about it. so do you think he has people watching this fourm? If thats the case then I would like to request a few things: PLEASE FIRE VKM : They are one of the few things bringing down TNA DO NOT start a womens division : You only have one little hour as it is. We dont need 5 minutes wasted with bad wrestling.
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Abyss
Jan 17, 2007 12:48:29 GMT -5
Post by HMARK Center on Jan 17, 2007 12:48:29 GMT -5
I don't mind the short title reigns, given that we were fresh off some long ones (Jarrett's endless reign: Part II, Christian for four months, then back to Jarrett, for what was admittedly one of his better reigns, but still too long), but it's never wise to only run with one kind of title reign.
For example, Sting and Abyss each had pretty short title reigns; that's fine. Now, let the next couple reigns be on the long side, then switch it up again, etc. etc.
People overreact too quickly to both long AND short title reigns ("it's devaluing the belt!", "this reign is gonna get boring!", etc.) without looking at what's actually being done to the title. Just having more than one title switch in a few months alone does not devalue the belt; treating the title like it's meaningless does that.
But, again, yes, no point in having a whole bunch of short reigns in a row, just as there's no point in having a bunch of long ones in a row.
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Abyss
Jan 17, 2007 21:09:00 GMT -5
Post by Throwback on Jan 17, 2007 21:09:00 GMT -5
personally I like the champ having the belt for a long time like Bruno Sammartino with the heavyweight and fabulous moolah with the womens. it makes the champ look better when they are not beat 3 months into their reign
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Abyss
Jan 17, 2007 21:18:15 GMT -5
Post by Big DSR Energy on Jan 17, 2007 21:18:15 GMT -5
personally I like the champ having the belt for a long time like Bruno Sammartino with the heavyweight and fabulous moolah with the womens. it makes the champ look better when they are not beat 3 months into their reign It also makes the champion look better when he wrestles good matches. Anyway, I don't mind the short title reigns, and I've said this before, but: when the title changes hands quickly, it doesn't necessarily mean that the champion sucks. What it means is that there are a lot of excellent title contenders, all gunning for the same title at once. Hell, in one night, the ROH Tag Team Titles changed hands 3 times. It doesn't mean the titles are no good, it meant there were 3 great tag teams vying for them. That makes the titles more important, too. At least, that's how the hot-shot works when it's booked well. But, Abyss runs funny, and while he's okay at what he does, I'm not really a fan of his. In short, these are my findings... Good wrestler with long title reign = awesome Bad wrestler with long title reign = lame Good wrestler with short title reign, losing the title to another good wrestler = awesome Good wrestler with short title reign, losing the title to on-air boss character/celebrity = lame times a billion
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