Rick Mad
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Post by Rick Mad on Jan 2, 2007 13:39:43 GMT -5
"Mark" is a word that didn't come from wrestling to begin with, so that one is okay. I've seen it used on regular TV shows and things.
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Tickster
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Post by Tickster on Jan 2, 2007 14:16:36 GMT -5
I love the word "mark" when used as a verb because it is very concise and effective. In terms of using it to reference "general fandom," saying "I mark for The Amazing Race" has more punch than "I really like The Amazing Race" and is more effective and concise than "I am a big fan of The Amazing Race."
Likewise, using it for specific excited reactions is also handy. If your team wins the Super Bowl on a last second flea flicker and you jump out of your seat and go crazy, it's quick and effective to say that you "marked" or "marked out" in that moment.
The other one I use is "no-sell," just because I think it's fun and, again, I'm not sure if there is a way to express the same thing in as few letters. If Godzilla attacks Tokyo and planes are shooting at him with missiles, why not say that "Godzilla no-sold the missiles" rather than "the missiles had no effect on Godzilla and he just kept on going?"
I could see using "over," but I guess I don't run into too many instances in my life where I'd need to use it.
Any other terms I don't, for the most part, see a natural use for them in casual conversation.
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Indigocrates
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Post by Indigocrates on Jan 2, 2007 15:02:56 GMT -5
I remember hearing Flair freak out at people not in the business using these terms. I can understand his point. My main beef is with people thinking they're smart for knowing the terms. Knowing doesn't doesn't mean much. Especially these days. All you have to do is read the list I posted from wiki, and BAM! you're an expert in wrestling slang. Yeah, because knowing a lot of the slang means you know jack shit about the slang.
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Post by thebudman2006 on Jan 2, 2007 15:59:52 GMT -5
Some people say oh it looks like he didnt "sell" the move and have no "hugging" clue what they are talking about.
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Matt Rogers
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Post by Matt Rogers on Jan 2, 2007 16:02:03 GMT -5
Some terms, people outside wrestling will get. Like "over" and "heat". Most people get it. On a wrestling message board, most the time it's fine. Some people be rear canals and use them to sound smart but some people have it just naturually become part of their message board lingo. I can't imagine me on the street in the following scenario. A man gets hit by a car and is bloodied all overMe: Yeah 911, this guy got hit but a car, we need an ambulance out here. 911 Operator: How bad is he hurt? Me: He's gushing .95 Muta. 911 Operator:.......... Just chill out. i've never seen the Muta blade job. Is there a vid. online of it? www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2yxfSRz-cwBe warned, it's nasty.
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Dynamic Dee
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Post by Dynamic Dee on Jan 2, 2007 16:04:11 GMT -5
I find it annoying when someone talks about how someone they don't like is not "over" when they clearly get reactions from the crowd. Also its annoying when some says someone got "buried" after losing one match. If they lose repeatedly then I understand but losing once in a while does not kill a career.
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Post by Ultimate Reality on Jan 2, 2007 16:45:52 GMT -5
I'd mark out (or...whatever it's really called) if I got a job in the wrestling industry and found out that all these "insider" slang words were really just decoy words made up as a big joke on the smart marks......or are they really called "brainboxed dingos?"
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Ace Baretta
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Post by Ace Baretta on Jan 2, 2007 16:55:08 GMT -5
I love the fact that people get up in arms about using wrestling slang.
I've been in the business for 5 or 6 years myself, and every now and then, more often than not, the slang jumps its way into my everyday language.
But yeah, marks that use the lingo and act like it makes them smart, or an insider, or whatever cracks me up, mostly cause half of the "terms" they use arne't true lingo at all.
Example: "Conway pop." I've never heard that outside this forum, for the most part. Certainly not in the business.
Same goes with "X-Pac heat" or anything specifically referencing a wrestler. Yes, even Dusty Finish.
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Sajoa Moe
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 2, 2007 16:56:51 GMT -5
I'm using "Batman Match" more often now.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jan 2, 2007 17:03:29 GMT -5
I don't like it when people say "I mark for _____" to state that they like stuff when it's not wrestling related. The whole concept of "marking" for wrestling implies that you are buying into what you are seeing. As if to say that you liked a match so much, that you were able to temporarily suspend your belief and pretend that you are watching something that is a real competition. As such you became a "mark" for the wrestling match.
So when asked what your favorite salad dressing is and someone says "I mark for Zesty Italian", it doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by maxx420 on Jan 2, 2007 17:06:35 GMT -5
I remember hearing Flair freak out at people not in the business using these terms. I can understand his point. In a radio interview Flair freaked out beacuse a fan asked him a question: "Do you prefer playing a face or a heel?" Flair went on a tirade about how he had no respect for fans using "insider terms" like that. In short, Flair is an ass! Since when?
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Post by MGH on Jan 2, 2007 17:08:04 GMT -5
The only people who really get to me are the ones who start calling wrestlers by their real names. It shouldn't bug me, but it annoys me really bad. OOOOH you know their real names, good for you?
Plus nearly everytime it's been brought up in an interview I've heard the workers hate it.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jan 2, 2007 17:14:21 GMT -5
The only people who really get to me are the ones who start calling wrestlers by their real names. It shouldn't bug me, but it annoys me really bad. OOOOH you know their real names, good for you? Plus nearly everytime it's been brought up in an interview I've heard the workers hate it. I believe this one is true also. I am a pretty regular reader of Lance Storm's commentaries. He said once that he feels that it's an invasion of his privacy when people call a wrestler by their real name instead of their on-screen name. Like he said that if he is out in public and someone comes up to him and says "Hey, Lance Evers!" then he assumes that this is a person that he might actually know in real life (outside of the wrestling world). Then when it turns out to be a fan instead of an actual acquaintance, he feels like that person is kind of invading his personal life. On the other hand if someone approaches him in public and says "Hey, Lance Storm!" then right off the bat he knows he is dealing with a fan, and he can talk appropriately to his fan.
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Post by dennisisevil on Jan 2, 2007 18:47:03 GMT -5
What's really fun is to use wrestling terms in non-wrestling situations. Like when your car breaks down you can say it jobbed. And when the guy with the tow truck comes to jumpstart it and it still won't start you can say it no sold the jumpstart.
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Sim
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Post by Sim on Jan 2, 2007 19:57:27 GMT -5
No-sell should be standard vocabulary. It's so versatile and applicable.
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Post by Shy Guy on Jan 2, 2007 19:59:13 GMT -5
I remember hearing Flair freak out at people not in the business using these terms. I can understand his point. and then he continued to use wrestling terms in his book....
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nisi
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Post by nisi on Jan 2, 2007 20:19:05 GMT -5
I don't like it when people say "I mark for _____" to state that they like stuff when it's not wrestling related. The whole concept of "marking" for wrestling implies that you are buying into what you are seeing. As if to say that you liked a match so much, that you were able to temporarily suspend your belief and pretend that you are watching something that is a real competition. As such you became a "mark" for the wrestling match. So when asked what your favorite salad dressing is and someone says "I mark for Zesty Italian", it doesn't make sense to me. What's really fun is to use wrestling terms in non-wrestling situations. Like when your car breaks down you can say it jobbed. And when the guy with the tow truck comes to jumpstart it and it still won't start you can say it no sold the jumpstart. I prefer to think of this as an art form, one invented by WrestleCrappers. Grammatical sense jobs to us, and so does Zesty Italian. Especially Zesty Italian.
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algertman
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Post by algertman on Jan 2, 2007 21:17:12 GMT -5
Me and brother use wrestling term sometimes to each other for fun
Also some of these are funny as hell. I have never heard of Vanilla Midget or Batman Match
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wwerules60
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Post by wwerules60 on Jan 2, 2007 21:29:59 GMT -5
Brocking sounds like a bad sexual manoeuvre
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Bhester
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Post by Bhester on Jan 2, 2007 22:11:13 GMT -5
It gets a little annoying after a while, as if everyone knows all of the insides of pro wrestling and all. Especially because of the fact that only like 70% of the terms are available to us. No one knows terms like "Showing Light", "Sending it", "Showing your ass", "Psychic", "Dying", "2:1 Face Shine" or the combinations of status to create certain match structures. Which is why I get a little annoyed when someone uses all all kinds of different terms to try to bash someone's work, when it isn't justified. You sound like a hypocrite. I thought the same thing.
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