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Post by joeman on Jan 19, 2007 9:44:31 GMT -5
I want to see a match between them to today to see how far they can go quality wise. I know both are past their primes, but can they produce a match at least watchable? I think the match would be more suited in a ppv, perferably Wrestlemania.
If it ever happens, hopefully Steamboat can keep the Eye in the Sky theme music.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 19, 2007 9:54:13 GMT -5
Flair has proven to me he can still go, no it's not 1987, but his ladder match with Edge erased any doubts I may have had, Steamboat hasn't wrestled in years, and provided his back could take it, and he had some time to train, I think it'd be an enjoyable match, probably slow and methodical with them picking up the pace at the right spots, remember, what made their matches so great in the first place is because they could read each other so well and build off of that-it'd be classic old school
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Post by thesunbeast on Jan 19, 2007 9:59:54 GMT -5
I've been wanting to see this for a while now. Psychology wize, the match would be just as great as any of their older ones. Ricky could still do that arm drag. Flair can still be a great heel. The fan response would be deafening, with every single chop. It'll be great, if it happens, which I hope it does.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 19, 2007 10:02:28 GMT -5
As much as I'd love to see it, it wouldn't get over at all in front of a WWE crowd, as the feud was in the NWA and not everyone knows about it.
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Post by skskillz on Jan 19, 2007 10:11:12 GMT -5
I've been wanting to see this for a while now. Psychology wize, the match would be just as great as any of their older ones. Ricky could still do that arm drag. Flair can still be a great heel. The fan response would be deafening, with every single chop. It'll be great, if it happens, which I hope it does. If you announced Ricky Steamboat to today's WWE crowd, you'd hear a Conway pop. Flair has kept his name viable to the new audience since he's still active, but Steamboat is a name from the '80's. Not only the '80's, but the '80's NWA. "Deafening" is not a word I'd use. Put it in any arena other than maybe MSG, and it would be a mild response if anything, IMO. Neither Flair or Steamboat are Austin/Hogan/Rock calibre guys (nor should they be considered in that class), certainly not in the eyes of current fans. |
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 19, 2007 10:12:41 GMT -5
Didn't Steamboat do some work with ROH in the last couple years?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 19, 2007 10:17:59 GMT -5
Didn't Steamboat do some work with ROH in the last couple years? He did do some work there, had a good feud with CM Punk and some awesome confrontations vs. Mick Foley on the debate of Hardcore Wrestling vs. Pure Wrestling. |
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Post by Numero Dos on Jan 19, 2007 10:47:30 GMT -5
As much as I'd love to see it I don't think Steamboat's back would be up to it. Plus didn't he lose the name Ricky Steamboat in his divorce settlement to his wife? So WWE would have to pay a lot of money just to call him Ricky Steamboat
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Post by thesunbeast on Jan 19, 2007 10:49:20 GMT -5
I've been wanting to see this for a while now. Psychology wize, the match would be just as great as any of their older ones. Ricky could still do that arm drag. Flair can still be a great heel. The fan response would be deafening, with every single chop. It'll be great, if it happens, which I hope it does. If you announced Ricky Steamboat to today's WWE crowd, you'd hear a Conway pop. Flair has kept his name viable to the new audience since he's still active, but Steamboat is a name from the '80's. Not only the '80's, but the '80's NWA. "Deafening" is not a word I'd use. Put it in any arena other than maybe MSG, and it would be a mild response if anything, IMO. Neither Flair or Steamboat are Austin/Hogan/Rock calibre guys (nor should they be considered in that class), certainly not in the eyes of current fans. Everone's acting like the match could only work for strictly nastalgia purposes. Right now, WWE business is down. What WWE has right now is their core audience that has never stopped watching even during the bad times, even though WWE is currently in a transitional period. I'm saying that those two could make the match work strictly on the things that they do in the ring alone, particularly psychology wize, that'a how their older matches worked in the first place, not because they were old veterans. Now, they are old veterans, and while most fans of their era don't watch anymore, most of today's older fans, the ones who have easy access to old footage, know who Steamboat, and other's, are. If the fans that are left haven't stopped watching by now, their not going to stop. Hacksaw Jim Duggan gets great "pops" now not because the people that are cheering remember him from 20 years before, but because he does now with is character what worked then, dispite being much older and slower. Piper, Sgt. Slaughter, Jake Roberts and Iron Shiek all had like 10 year absences before they returned to TV for a day, with no time to build them up. Jake left WWE in for the final time in 1996, the next time he was seen on WWE TV was in 2005, for one day, and he got the biggest reaction that he ever had in the business, even more than 1992 or 1996. It was indeed deafening. Yes, Steamboat was NWA for most of his career, but anyone large group of fans that would go ballistic for the Iron Shiek in 2005, was watching, or at least got caught up on, NWA, sinse thay were as big, or even bigger at times, than WWE in the 80's. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 19, 2007 10:52:56 GMT -5
If you had him out there on TV as a mentor, each week in front of the fans, then maybe he might get a good pop, but if you just plopped him out there with Flair and said go wrestle, in front of little kids and girls who only give a crap about Batista and John Cena, it won't be recieved well.
Besides, Steamboat's back is out, so he won't be donning the tights, also the issue over his name doesn't help at all. Maybe as part of some legend's show somewhere, but in WWE on a Raw broadcast, not likely.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Jan 19, 2007 12:02:12 GMT -5
You want a good live crowd response? Put it on somewhere in the Carolinas or Virginia.
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Post by Choose Slack on Jan 19, 2007 13:06:37 GMT -5
It wouldn't be great like their older clashses from NWA-WCW era, but it'd be a lot more enjoyable then seeing Hogan jiggle up against Khali or Big Show.
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Post by lmoney215 on Jan 19, 2007 13:12:25 GMT -5
If steamboat's back can hold out for one match, then i would be all for it.
it would be easy to hype steamboat and flair. show clips of their past matches, show old clips of promos. let flair play heel like how shawn michaels played heel to hogan at summerslam 05.
if there needs to be any hype for steamboat, show clips of his match with savage, the "greatest match in wrestlemania history". show other promos of how he was one of the original high flyers and great mat wrestlers. the ricky steamboat arm drag that j.r. always mentions. Show him "breathing fire", that would be cool.
flair and steamboat, if done properly and one time, would bring in ratings and would be one final hurrah for both. steamboat never had a farewell match on the national scene, and this could be a way to say good bye. steamboat might want to dye his hair black as well, cause only vince can get gray hair over.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 19, 2007 13:12:47 GMT -5
It wouldn't be great like their older clashses from NWA-WCW era, but it'd be a lot more enjoyable then seeing Hogan jiggle up against Khali or Big Show. True, maybe to us it would be and a few smarks in attendance, but the majority could care less, unless it was in the Carolinas. |
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Post by The Jeebus on Jan 19, 2007 13:34:51 GMT -5
I'm quite sure everyone's privy to Steamboat vs. Flair. If they're not now, they would be after a month or two of hype.
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Post by Choose Slack on Jan 19, 2007 13:42:22 GMT -5
It wouldn't be great like their older clashses from NWA-WCW era, but it'd be a lot more enjoyable then seeing Hogan jiggle up against Khali or Big Show. True, maybe to us it would be and a few smarks in attendance, but the majority could care less, unless it was in the Carolinas. I think if they marketed it right (i.e by showing old footage from WCW, etc that VKM owns the rights to), they could generate interest from the casual fans. Granted, Steamboat isn't a great promo cutter, but Flair could easily play a great heel and throw in some 'kayfabe' crap about how he's been making money in the WWE while Steamboat's only been pandering around to small crowds in ROH (okay, yeah, that ROH reference definetly wouldn't go over with the casual fan, but...) |
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Post by thesunbeast on Jan 20, 2007 9:57:13 GMT -5
I would also wonder about Steamboat's back issue, but not anymore.
This whole thing was Steamboat's Idea.
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Post by wrestlinggod13 on Jan 20, 2007 10:09:50 GMT -5
It would be a nice trip down memory lane, but Vince nixed the idea of Flair/Steamboat in WWE a few years ago.
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