Public Enemy in WWE

[coldebeers]

Does anyone know why Rocco Rock and Johnny Grunge were alienated and treated like crap during their short WWE run? I know that Farooq and Bradshap pounded the crap out of them for real during a match.

[warriorthug4edge]

The reason I've heard is because Vince was still pissed off at them for going to WCW after they left ECW the first time, and wanted to make them "pay their dues" for that. Don't know if it's true or not, though

[Kash Flagg]

Yeah, that's what I heard too.

[Joekishi]

OMG they are both dead, it totally slipped my mind

[WHATAMANOOOVER]

I'm not 100% sure (forgot, been some time since I watched Forever Hardcore)...but some were upset they chose to go to WCW years earlier instead of WWE. Then some of the guys in the locker room wanted to make sure they were treated like crap since they were WCW guys. Stupid reasons and there was no reason for the actions of Bradshaw and Faarooq in that match. They were never going to be given a serious shot in the company anyway.

[nerdinitupagain]

empirewf said:

I'm not 100% sure (forgot, been some time since I watched Forever Hardcore)...but some were upset they chose to go to WCW years earlier instead of WWE. Then some of the guys in the locker room wanted to make sure they were treated like crap since they were WCW guys. Stupid reasons and there was no reason for the actions of Bradshaw and Faarooq in that match. They were never going to be given a serious shot in the company anyway.

It makes no sense to me that Farooq would pound someone for being a WCW guy... since HE was a WCW guy.

I thought it was because they came in with the attitude problem

[bigHEADinc]

empirewf said:

I'm not 100% sure (forgot, been some time since I watched Forever Hardcore)...but some were upset they chose to go to WCW years earlier instead of WWE. Then some of the guys in the locker room wanted to make sure they were treated like crap since they were WCW guys. Stupid reasons and there was no reason for the actions of Bradshaw and Faarooq in that match. They were never going to be given a serious shot in the company anyway.

From what I heard, Farooq and Bradshaw were told to rough them up, to see if they could hang in the WWF... They expected Public Enemy to freak out, but instead shook APA's hands for the good match...

[andrew8798]

nerdinitupagain said:

empirewf said:

I'm not 100% sure (forgot, been some time since I watched Forever Hardcore)...but some were upset they chose to go to WCW years earlier instead of WWE. Then some of the guys in the locker room wanted to make sure they were treated like crap since they were WCW guys. Stupid reasons and there was no reason for the actions of Bradshaw and Faarooq in that match. They were never going to be given a serious shot in the company anyway.

It makes no sense to me that Farooq would pound someone for being a WCW guy... since HE was a WCW guy.

I thought it was because they came in with the attitude problem

that was another reason too they had bad attitudes

[THRJamesAngelo]

I figured it was attitude problems, considering Jericho, Benoit, Rey Rey, Eddie, Dean Malenko and a few others all went to WCW after ECW.

[Error]

I had heard the opposite of what most have written. I read that they came in believing their own hype and talked like they were the best thing in wrestling, having been multi time ECW tag champs and a big team in WCW. Vince talked to them and they still ran their mouths.

It pissed off everyone backstage so Vince put them in the ring with the APA to knock them down a notch. After that they bitched to everyone that they didn't deserve it so Vince had the APA do it one more time, then fired them after they didn't get the message.

That is why the Dudleys got the same treatment (in a feud with the APA when they first arrived). Vince wanted to know that the Dudleys weren't acting like PE did and left it to the APA to find out.

[Legion]

jinxed said:

I had heard the opposite of what most have written. I read that they came in believing their own hype and talked like they were the best thing in wrestling, having been multi time ECW tag champs and a big team in WCW. Vince talked to them and they still ran their mouths.

It pissed off everyone backstage so Vince put them in the ring with the APA to knock them down a notch. After that they complain and/or rude femaleed to everyone that they didn't deserve it so Vince had the APA do it one more time, then fired them after they didn't get the message.

That is why the Dudleys got the same treatment (in a feud with the APA when they first arrived). Vince wanted to know that the Dudleys weren't acting like PE did and left it to the APA to find out.

This makes sense as we know that Vince likes to test people when they first arrive to see how they cope. See any match of new guy vs Hardcore Holly

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This did lead to one of my favorite lines. The Dudleys are playing poker with the APA for some reason(I think that they were feuding at the time) and Buh Buh said something along the lines of "We may be your enemy but at least we're not the Public Enemy." The APA agreed with them and they all had a laugh.

Also I seem to remember a Battle Royal where literally everyone in the ring ganged up on them and forcibly threw them out of the ring as soon as the match began.

[warriorthug4edge]

I think my favorite part of that whole deal was the APA would do things that are just obvious disqualifications (I seem to remember Farooq knocking the bejeezus out of Flyboy Rocco Rock with a chair) and the refs just looking at it like nothing was up. I don't think these matches were no DQ, either.