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Post by goldenboost on Jan 19, 2007 16:23:44 GMT -5
So... I haven't been watching SD lately and was wondering how high on the card Gregory Helms and the CW title was.
Has it been pretty high? Low? What's up with it?
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 19, 2007 16:24:53 GMT -5
1 year, 5 defenses, and everytime he fights somebody that weighs more than Matt Hardy he's made to look like a total tool. 'Nuff said.
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Post by Error on Jan 19, 2007 16:26:39 GMT -5
He is somehow feuding with the Boogey man with whom he is yet to actually wrestle (thank God).
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Post by Legion on Jan 19, 2007 16:29:47 GMT -5
CW title is otherwise dead weight because they don't have any decent cruisers that are credible enough.
It might pick up again if they decide to push Jimmy Yang or Noble, but they haven't recently, so i cant see it starting.
Perhaps when Londrick break up it will improve
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Post by HevyDevy on Jan 19, 2007 16:31:46 GMT -5
Kinda hard to have a Division with only 3 or 4 guys.
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Post by EJS on Jan 19, 2007 16:58:12 GMT -5
Everyone he's beaten has pretty much been released or jumped to a different brand. Other than Jamie Noble who is now a jobber, and Jimmy Wang Yang, who is almost a jobber, but has a goofy gimmick so he gets on tv.
Oh and London/Kendrick left the Cruiser division and started dominating the tag divison, like AJ/Daniels did in TNA.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 19, 2007 16:59:23 GMT -5
The Cruiserweight Division is currently weaker than the Women's Division.
Think about THAT.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jan 19, 2007 17:03:33 GMT -5
Remember UT vs Helms match from a couple of months ago? Helms had no offense and got slaughtered in 2 secs. Cruiserweight title is pretty meaningless, considering Helms has almost no competition.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2007 17:07:06 GMT -5
Kinda hard to have a Division with only 3 or 4 guys. <3 |
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Post by Yann on Jan 19, 2007 17:37:36 GMT -5
And instead of hiring good cruiserweight wrestlers, Vince will hire new meaningless piles of mascara (aka divas) to put on Raw.
I think I'm about to switch to TNA.
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Post by The Scuba Guy on Jan 19, 2007 17:38:46 GMT -5
You have:
Helms
Noble
S2H
Funaki
London
Kendrick
Yang
Seven guys? Maybe San-Eye can be a cruiserweight
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 19, 2007 17:39:34 GMT -5
And instead of hiring good cruiserweight wrestlers, Vince will hire new meaningless piles of mascara (aka divas) to put on Raw. I think I'm about to switch to TNA. TNA is trying as hard as it can to be like WWE. Try ROH. |
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Post by The Portable Stove on Jan 19, 2007 17:41:50 GMT -5
Hopefully, SOMEONE can knock Helms off as champ. I'm sick of seeing him with the belt, even though he's awesome.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 19, 2007 17:43:51 GMT -5
Hopefully, SOMEONE can knock Helms off as champ. I'm sick of seeing him with the belt, even though he's awesome. I agree. He's awesome but he can't hold onto that thing forever. I actually liked the idea of him trying to move up a division, then the match with King Booker happened 2 weeks ago and I sorta lost hope for that angle (specifically, Booker acting all cocky and arrogant every time he knocked Helms down and Helms selling the moves like death...just really made Helms look like he doesn't have what it takes to compete in the US Title scene) |
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Jan 19, 2007 17:57:10 GMT -5
Why don't they just rename it Jobber Division and be done with it? The E has zero interest in cruiserweights other than squash material.
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Post by The Portable Stove on Jan 19, 2007 18:00:42 GMT -5
Which is why they hired Cassidy Riley.
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Post by Loki on Jan 19, 2007 18:58:16 GMT -5
WWE should just stop using Cruiserweights outside their division, and just "segregate" them there.
In that way, without the unfair comparison (and the biased booking) with bigger guys, cruiserweights may try to claim back a bit of credibility.
But as long as the CW Champion is some sort of one-eyed man in the land of the blinds (ie. all the other small guys are jobbers) there's little hope.
The trend is: new cruiserweight is signed/traded, he wins the belt and keeps it until a new guy comes in, then he drops the belt and begins to job to the whole (non-CW) roster.
London and Kendrick have gotten a better deal with the Tag Team Championship, but we all know it'll end up like London and Kidman... the team will split, a quick feud follows, one gets fired (if not both) or they're moved back to the CW-Jobber division
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Jan 19, 2007 19:22:26 GMT -5
IMO they need to either build up the division or just get rid of the title.
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Post by The Scuba Guy on Jan 19, 2007 19:26:19 GMT -5
I heard Flash Funk was going to the CW division, so theres a little build up
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 19, 2007 19:32:43 GMT -5
They should do an angle where Helms throws down the title on SmackDown, and cuts a promo about how that title gets no respect in WWE, and it never will and he gets none right along with it. Says that he doesn't want to carry a title that is no more than a waist accessory.
Then Teddy Long has a tournament to crown a new Cruiserweight Champion, and Helms gets pushed upward into the US Title division.
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