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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jan 15, 2007 1:44:55 GMT -5
Breaking Newz !!!11!!!
CM Punk in doghouse for leaving his mobile phone on in the locker room while he was having his match. His 'Cult Of Personalty' ring tone really annoyed The Undertaker. More @ 11.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Jan 15, 2007 1:49:44 GMT -5
Arn Anderson especially was against him, saying that Holly should make Punk pay his dues as he's just "Heyman's guy" and not any good so Holly shouldn't need to cheat to pin him. Anderson also said Punk was only over because Heyman fluked it and it shouldn't be happening. Punk was personally told by Anderson that "after 14 years on being on WWE televison, Holly is the bigger star" If true, this is pure idiocy right here. Punk was a fluke? That's why they chanted his name over DX at SS? Right. And since when does being in the company for 14 years make you a "bigger star"? By that logic The Brooklyn Brawler should be main eventing WM.
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Post by Legion on Jan 15, 2007 2:01:42 GMT -5
I love how if anyone other than Punk had complained these threads would be very different........
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Post by samachine on Jan 15, 2007 2:17:18 GMT -5
I'm sorry, where's CM Punk get off thinking he can tell veterans how to run their business? Sorry guy this isn't some japanese ripoff promotion, I think they know a little more than you. You know if this was like Orton everyone would be like 'They should fire him for disagreeing, what an ungrateful jerk!'''
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 15, 2007 2:23:30 GMT -5
I'm sorry, where's CM Punk get off thinking he can tell veterans how to run their business? Sorry guy this isn't some japanese ripoff promotion, I think they know a little more than you. You know if this was like Orton everyone would be like 'They should fire him for disagreeing, what an ungrateful jerk!''' Yes, because Holly is a huge star ready to usher in a new era of mediocrityPopularity among the mainstream, and the win has set ECW on course to becoming Jesus part 2.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Jan 15, 2007 2:24:54 GMT -5
I'm sorry, where's CM Punk get off thinking he can tell veterans how to run their business? Sorry guy this isn't some japanese ripoff promotion, I think they know a little more than you. You know if this was like Orton everyone would be like 'They should fire him for disagreeing, what an ungrateful jerk!''' Yes, because Holly is a huge star ready to usher in a new era of mediocrityPopularity among the mainstream, and the win has set ECW on course to becoming Jesus part 2. Coming soon to a theater near you: Jesus 2: Electric Boogaloo. [/MST3K]
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Post by General Zod on Jan 15, 2007 2:37:28 GMT -5
Sorry, but I agree with AA and FF, if that be the case. Punk is highly overrated. I don't think I'd have made him job to Bob Holly (that much is ridiculous - I wouldn't have made Rosie O'Donnel job to Bob Holly), but considering some of the things that "superstars" have had to endure in the past makes me think that Punk's de-push isn't as bad as the IWC makes it out to be. Look at it realistically - AA has done the JOB to some pretty serious douchebags in his career. So has Finlay. Both *after* they were established stars. AA lost the TV title to the f'n Renegade, FFS! Why Punk should be exempt from such status is beyond me. Cry me a river.
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Post by kickassforumguyme on Jan 15, 2007 2:49:05 GMT -5
More Maineventer food
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Post by HRH The KING on Jan 15, 2007 3:25:51 GMT -5
Not to me.
As it happens, D2D was a flop, so who do Arn and Finlay blame now?
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Post by 4real on Jan 15, 2007 4:36:18 GMT -5
I think i've lost a lot of respect for Finlay and Arn because of this. They are clearly looking out of touch.
I'm not the biggest CM Punk fan in any way (i think he's massively overrated), but as a younger guy with a future ahead of him he needs to look strong. Plus let's face it, the people love CM Punk and hardly anybody cares about Hardcore Holly, even though he has been in the WWE for 457 years.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 15, 2007 8:17:41 GMT -5
I think it's stupid. I mean big deal if he disagreed about the match. To call him a fluke or whatever is just stupid all together. CM Punk getting major pops just don't happen with anybody. I mean if that was lets say Davari cutting the same promos before his debut, Do you think Davari or anybody else would gotten the same pop as Punk did? I don't think so. The fans know what Punk as done in the indies.
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Post by carter 15 on Jan 15, 2007 8:20:23 GMT -5
surely they mixed up AA with Stephanie McMahon right? RIGHT?!!!
She's the root of all evil afterall.
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Post by heyman on Jan 15, 2007 8:27:22 GMT -5
I'm all for it. I too also thought that CM Punk was very overrated and I dont know who the hell he think he is to tell someone how to do their job like he's some megastar already. Just like the other person said before if it was Randy Orton people would be lining up outside his house with pitchforks and burning torches but since its CM Punk a guy that they hope to make it big they want to try and make up and excuse for him. My hat is off to AA and FF
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Jan 15, 2007 8:49:16 GMT -5
Wait... I thought it was HHH!? He got pissed that Punk was cheered over DX!
To be a bit more serious I don't have enough information to form an opinion. All they said was that Punk disagreed. I would disagree as well but regardless if he was in the right or wrong (I think he was in the right to disagree he doesn't need to be main eventing yet, but he should be being outsmarted, not outright defeated) what matters is HOW he disagreed, did he throw a fit? Did he calmly state his opinion? How long did they argue? Was there an argument? If he went HBK on them I would agree with AA and FF, but if he calmly stated his opinion that's another matter entirely.
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Post by manx21 on Jan 15, 2007 8:56:11 GMT -5
and i'm afraid we'll never know how he stated his case, but i would imagine people would disagree all the time wouldnt they? its called having an opinion on your career
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 15, 2007 9:05:11 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWZ FROM GODZJAH.COM:
Hundreds of thousands of CM Punk fans have all comitted a ritualistic suicide after CM Punk was pinned in ONE match this past week on ECW. Internet wrestling forum traffic is at an all time low.
Seriously though. I DO think Holly is a bigger star than Punk, but Punk is more popular/over at the moment. Does that make sense?
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Post by amsiraK on Jan 15, 2007 9:12:34 GMT -5
the Smarks will be coming any min You're gonna need a bigger boat. I think people (and I mean the dirtsheeps) latched on to Punk as the new martyr for their cause. He's never going to get cut an even break, even though he's going through exactly what others have gone through before him. Just because he's a hot property doesn't give him any more or less importance than anyone else. I also think that AA and FF are getting a lot of heat lately and that makes me suspicious. It sounds like Johnny Ace is feeding the nEwz sites to deflect blame off himself. And I'm still waiting to see him do something awesome. Thusfar, I'm meh on him. That may be either him or the booking. I'm not settled yet.
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Post by hollywood on Jan 15, 2007 11:36:15 GMT -5
Didn't we already have a long thread about this last night?
I'll say the same thing I said then. I'm really not a big fan of the E's CM Punk. He's pretty generic in my eyes--at least compared to what he used to be.
That aside, he's really the only thing ECW has going for them right now. Kurt left. RVD and Sabu don't care anymore. All the originals are pretty disillusioned. Ratings are half of where they started. And now Heyman's gone.
Punk has really been the only part of the show many people are interested in at all. Jobbing him right out to Bob Holly is just a dumb move. I like Bob Holly, but Punk's far more over. Period.
Their logic for jobbing Punk to Holly is laughable. I supposed Cena and Batista should expect to lose clean to him also?
I hardly watch anymore, so I really don't care. But, if this story is true, then people are letting their fragile egos and their dislike of the man responsible for Punk's initial push (Heyman), get in the way of smart business. Punk is over. Very over. Apparantly more over than DX in some places. De-pushing him just isn't smart.
I'd say the same thing if Shannon Moore was in the same situation, and gawd I hate Spanky!
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Post by Sharpy Snow on Jan 15, 2007 11:44:33 GMT -5
If Punk down right disagreed with the finish of the Chamber, why was it reported after loosing to Holly and not straight after the chamber?
I call Smark-Bait.
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Post by amplifierWORSHIP! on Jan 15, 2007 11:47:37 GMT -5
has Hardcore Holly EVER been over? minus after getting a gash in his back, but 2 weeks later he had the crowd back to sitting on their hands?
i guess when him, Crash, and Molly were around.. but i wouldn't attribute that entirely to Sparky.
whatever, guess it's hard to accept that ECW became a haven for those who cannot, for the life of them, generate a crowd reaction.
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