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Post by Tyfo on Jan 14, 2007 16:48:26 GMT -5
Credit: PWInsider.com
According to Dave Scherer, the main culprits in the recent de-push for C.M. Punk are WWE agents Arn Anderson and Fit Finlay.
Punk is currently in the doghouse as he disagreed with the layout of the Elimination Chamber match with Arn Anderson and Michael Hayes who were the producers for it. For last week's ECW T.V., Dave Lagana had written that Punk should get Holly in his vice finisher and Holly should turn over, grab a rope and pin Punk.
In the production meeting when the T.V. was being put together, the whole room turned on Punk when Lagana told them his idea. Arn Anderson especially was against him, saying that Holly should make Punk pay his dues as he's just "Heyman's guy" and not any good so Holly shouldn't need to cheat to pin him. Anderson also said Punk was only over because Heyman fluked it and it shouldn't be happening. Punk was personally told by Anderson that "after 14 years on being on WWE televison, Holly is the bigger star" as an explanation why the heel should pin the babyface clean. The actual finish was came up by Finlay.
Additionally, while of course Heyman is a fighter when it comes to trying to get his ideas over, the new ECW writer Dave Lagana is more of a laid back guy who just wants to go with the flow, so Anderson and Finlay have had a much easier time getting Punk booked to look weak.
It was also reported that Punk's first loss was originally going to occur through a ref bump-type screwjob, but Finlay and Anderson once again got the match changed to the clean loss for Punk.
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Post by wrath on Jan 14, 2007 16:51:03 GMT -5
Whatever the case may be, ending the streak of someone who has the potential to be a huge star for your company to HARDCORE HOLLY is completely mind boggling. ..Then again, Holly and Test are like the only heels in ECW (*snicker*) so I guess it's bad news either way.
..I wish Punk would go to Smackdown.
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Post by Choose Slack on Jan 14, 2007 16:51:31 GMT -5
This is old news.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 14, 2007 16:51:47 GMT -5
Anderson also said Punk was only over because Heyman fluked it and it shouldn't be happening. How in god's name is getting someone over a fluke?  |
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Post by wrath on Jan 14, 2007 16:53:04 GMT -5
Anderson also said Punk was only over because Heyman fluked it and it shouldn't be happening. How in god's name is getting someone over a fluke? Clearly, if it cannot be answered with a spine buster, Arn Anderson doesn't quite grasp it. |
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Post by Tyfo on Jan 14, 2007 16:53:58 GMT -5
Anderson also said Punk was only over because Heyman fluked it and it shouldn't be happening. How in god's name is getting someone over a fluke? Someone should check Arn, he may be hittin the bottle again. |
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Jan 14, 2007 16:55:01 GMT -5
How in god's name is getting someone over a fluke? Clearly, if it cannot be answered with a spine buster, or holding up four fingers, Arn Anderson doesn't quite grasp it. Fixed. |
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 14, 2007 16:55:39 GMT -5
Two IWC favs hate IWC's Top Fav
Lets see how this unfolds...
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Post by ghettooverlord on Jan 14, 2007 16:59:10 GMT -5
Two IWC favs hate IWC's Top Fav Lets see how this unfolds... The IWC has never liked Fit Finlay and Arn Anderson.[/spin cycle] |
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Post by Tyfo on Jan 14, 2007 17:00:03 GMT -5
Two IWC favs hate IWC's Top Fav Lets see how this unfolds... It's Bob Holly's fault!!!! |
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jan 14, 2007 17:03:24 GMT -5
Maybe Heyman's insistence on pushing Punk just rubbed people the wrong way. But for Chrissakes, he's OVER. Is there any reason NOT to capitalize on a YOUNG, RISING, OVER STAR?!?
And how come every single freaking heel in WWE has to win with cheating EXCEPT Hardcore Holly? Just because he's been there for a long time doesn't mean squat if he's still a nobody.
Rar. Wrestling politics are baffling, I suppose. If Punk's push is coming to an end, so are my attempts to watch ECW.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Jan 14, 2007 17:16:55 GMT -5
Maybe Heyman's insistence on pushing Punk just rubbed people the wrong way. But for Chrissakes, he's OVER. Is there any reason NOT to capitalize on a YOUNG, RISING, OVER STAR?!? Rar. Wrestling politics are baffling, I suppose. If Punk's push is coming to an end, so are my attempts to watch ECW. IF this is true, you´re right but I doubt this story...Holly has to go over Punk cause he´s been on TV for 14 years? then why did Flair have to job for almost the whole RAW roster in the past years? nope, sir, I don´t believe this |
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Post by Count Creepyhead on Jan 14, 2007 17:17:03 GMT -5
And I thought there were no smart people working for WWE.
Holly is a legit tough guy and I'm glad he's starting to get his dues. Punk is decent, but really people he's not WWE main event material yet. He needs a few years and 20lbs.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Jan 14, 2007 17:35:44 GMT -5
saying that Holly should make Punk pay his dues as he's just "Heyman's guy" and not any good so Holly shouldn't need to cheat to pin him. . . . How was the irony of that statement lost on Arn? |
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Post by darthpipes on Jan 14, 2007 17:41:30 GMT -5
Got to love petty politics in wrestling. Punk's probably one of the best wrestlers around and most of the guys he faces, including Holly, are beneath him.
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Post by royboy8 on Jan 14, 2007 17:41:58 GMT -5
Oh shut up...its one freakin loss...these dirt sheets are making it out like he's jobbing daily and his career is in shambles.
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Post by BHB on Jan 14, 2007 17:54:05 GMT -5
Punk should not have lost to Holly. Ever. The only people Holly should beat are jobbers.
I love how Holly's 14 years in WWF/WWE are brought up and yet he's still not in the least bit over.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 14, 2007 17:58:23 GMT -5
He always seems to get a solid crowd reaction. Not huge mind you, but fairly solid.
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Post by Franchise on Jan 14, 2007 18:05:16 GMT -5
Oh shut up...its one freakin loss...these dirt sheets are making it out like he's jobbing daily and his career is in shambles. Yes, it's only one loss, but it's not so much about that. For starters, Punk was being pushed as undefeated-and they killed that push on FREE TV with NO buildup whatsoever. People may have paid to see if Punk would lose or not (I personally wouldn't, as as much as I love Punk, I despise Holly more than anyone), and because Arn and Finlay don't believe that Punk's over (despite being cheered over Triple H, Shawn Michaels, and both Hardyz) they throw away not only revenue (it's pathetic when I describe a match featuring Hardcore Holly a "money match") but also make Punk to look absolutely horrible. |
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 14, 2007 18:06:46 GMT -5
"after 14 years on being on WWE televison, Holly is the bigger star"
Ok, did I miss something? When did Holly won any heat?
I only have respect for the man but good lord, he isn´t over. Punk outpopped DX, and he was getting solid reactions.
He could be the future. He could be the rose that rised from the feces. But I foresee some bad things for Mr. Punk, if this rumours are true.
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