A few questions about TNA

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Well, I haven't really been keeping up with much wrestling as of late. I've actually been setting up a wrestling promotion, but that's for another thread. Basically I've shocked with how poorly TNA is doing. I mean, what the hell happened?

Kurt Angle did little for both ratings and PPV buyrates. How the hell could that be? When TNA first starting rushing the Joe/Angle program I was vocal about "Russo" ruining such a great chance to really help TNA make a name for itself. After the first forgettable encounter at "Genesis"...or whatever generic PPV they put it on I kind of been getting wrapped up in my own personal promotion I've been a part of.

A few weeks ago I was flipping around the dial and saw Angle main eventing an Impact show against what seemed to be a "heel" AJ Styles...what is the point of giving away a match like the for free?

I have a couple questions for people who follow TNA.

What promted an AJ heel turn? I mean as far as I noticed the crowd loves him. What caused Tna's go to guy to turn heel? I don't know...to me it just seems bad for business...

Secondly with AJ a heel does that make Kurt Angle a face? Is the Joe/Angle program already over? I mean it's been 2-3 months...

I don't really watch the WWE or TNA much these days but atleast when I turn on RAW I have a clue to exactly what is going on. I just don't understand the logic TNA is using. I mean you can bring in all the WWE guys you want but eventually they are going to reach a point when it isn't worth it to pay these guys so much money.

Kurt Angle is one of the biggest current US wrestling stars and TNa still is drawing less than RAW at ANYPOINT in it's history... They have the talent it just seems like they all have no clue how to draw new fans...

I honestly don't think I'll ever get over how poorly they booked the Angle/Joe program. I mean come on... it's wrestling 101.

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These questions can mostly be answered with, "Vince Russo happened."

What promted an AJ heel turn? I mean as far as I noticed the crowd loves him. What caused Tna's go to guy to turn heel? I don't know...to me it just seems bad for business...

Most likely it was a combination of two things. They ran out of things to do with him, and Vince Russo probably thought it would be cool and edgy and whatever.

It might've worked if they'd given him a good reason to turn on everyone, but they didn't. All of a sudden he's just a cocky smartass for no apparent reason.

Secondly with AJ a heel does that make Kurt Angle a face? Is the Joe/Angle program already over? I mean it's been 2-3 months...

Who knows WHAT anyone is anymore. I can't tell who's heel and who's face. TNA is like a cheap WWE-BizzaroLand now.

And yes, Kurt/Joe is over (for now) after only three months, and they gave Kurt the nod rather than their most popular "home-grown" talent.

I honestly don't think I'll ever get over how poorly they booked the Angle/Joe program. I mean come on... it's wrestling 101.

Me neither. It's literally the biggest opportunity they've blown in their entire existence. They could've dragged the feud out for half a year at least, and made Joe an even bigger star than he is, but they didn't.

They've no one to blame but themselves. And Vince Russo.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

To me it's a number of reasons why TNA is not drawing. As big Angle is that doesn't mean he going to proform a mircle. It how you book him. Your right the Angle and Joe program was book badly because it was rushed. They why he didn't draw because they didn't give it time to draw attention to it.

That what the problem as been for TNA period. That there show is so rushed you can't follow what is going on half the time.

Bound for Glory was is the best example of how little sence TNA made. Because what was advertised for that PPV and what was being hyped were completly two different things.

The PPV was promoting Sting vs. Jarrett for the title. Now if you were watching Impact you wouldn't have known Sting was even there anymore. You would have thought it was Samoa Joe vs. Jarrett for the title. Because that what was being shown. Joe ran around with the belt that whole month and Jarrett was trying to get it back. Then Angle comes in to debut and becomes inforcer for the Jarrett verses Sting match. Most people would likely reacting "What, Jarrett is facing Sting at the PPV?"

Samoa was thrown in a Monster Ball match with Raven, Abyss, and Runt. Which I know was like, Were did this come about? Joe was looking like he was main eventing then he in a match that has no relation to what he was invold in.

WWE you can watch and have an idea on what is going on. TNA you really can't. Maybe that why there not drawing because fans that watch can't make sence of it.

TNA as some of the best PPVs in the reacent years that should have drawn big. Because how good they were. But with the timeslot they have. One hour doesn't work and what they book. It not working. As much as I liked TNA. There not drawing for a lot of reasons.

[Reverend BTY]

Storyline- AJ is heel because Rhino didn't want AJ and Daniels to stop being BFF after they lost the tag titles. This prompted AJ to be a heel. I <3 Russo Booking

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In terms of ratings/buy rates/whatever... I think wrestling fans overestimate Angle's drawing power... Yes, he's a great worker and he's got good charisma, but most of his fans aren't casual fans (unlike, say, HBK or Cena who can pull a casual fan)...

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vincerussoisgod said:

Storyline- AJ is heel because Rhino didn't want AJ and Daniels to stop being BFF after they lost the tag titles. This prompted AJ to be a heel. I <3 Russo Booking

Close but, after losing the tag titles, AJ was mad at Daniels. Rhino didn't want their friendship to end up like his and Christian's so he tried to patch it up (because some how a man that can't hold his own relationships together is a great man to take advise from ). So, AJ forgot he was mad at Daniels and went after Rhino. Without AJ in his life, Daniels can't win a match and forgot how to shave.