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Post by Chris Decker-The Wild Rover on Feb 8, 2007 23:35:19 GMT -5
**and no not WWECW**
Say ECW never folds,got better finacially and got a good TV deal so on and so forth. bascially the breeding ground for top independent talent in the 90's. who do you think would had been in ECW,
off the top of my head i think Joe would had been there but not stayed long. same for punk
Mainstays honestly: Bryan danielson, Homicide, Petey Williams, Low-ki, and AJ styles being the biggest guys to be major ECW players.
take into consideration people in TNA as well.
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Post by JMA on Feb 8, 2007 23:39:45 GMT -5
I'd see Christopher Daniels (didn't he have a brief stay in ECW) being a big star there with a Raven-esque character.
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Post by Person With A Hat on Feb 8, 2007 23:45:32 GMT -5
We'd see so much RoH/ECW wars, they wouldn't mean anything anymore.
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Feb 8, 2007 23:46:59 GMT -5
We'd see so much RoH/ECW wars, they wouldn't mean anything anymore. Wasn't ROH originally created just to sell on RFvideo.com because there was no more ECW?? |
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Post by Corporate H on Feb 9, 2007 0:04:03 GMT -5
The InVasion would be less painful to watch, that's for sure.
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Post by EJS on Feb 9, 2007 0:04:51 GMT -5
It folds in 2002.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Feb 9, 2007 0:27:09 GMT -5
True. Paul drug them down in the end. It was a sinking ship from 98 on. It was only a matter of time. They almost went down in 99 but TNN slowed the death process. If you put the title as "Say ECW got better finacially and got a good TV deal, etc", then were talking. Basically, there would be no ROH, CZW would have stayed in the backyards, JAPW would have died, and XPW would have died quicker. PWG would have never happened as well as the entire SoCal Indy scene. No IWA-MS, WLW, WORLD-1, MLW, and dozens more indies. ECW would be what TNA is and more. Heck, I'll go as far to say TNA never happens then. And probably FMW would have went on longer as they had working relationships with them. Basically, all the indies that formed after 2001 would have never happened as ECW would be a gateway for new indy talent. ECW was THAT important. |
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Post by Chris Decker-The Wild Rover on Feb 9, 2007 0:45:52 GMT -5
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 9, 2007 0:46:58 GMT -5
yeah thats an amazing point. Basically the death of ECW created a new territory system that would be the minor leagues of WWE and TNA. Thats really sad. I mean ECW would be so strong if it was able to survive and TNA wouldn't exist. It would be WWE on Spike and ECW on USA. It would be more competive and things would actually be good. In essense when ECW officially died wrestling got worse and that is not a disputiable fact.
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Post by Godhand on Feb 9, 2007 0:51:46 GMT -5
yeah thats an amazing point. Basically the death of ECW created a new territory system that would be the minor leagues of WWE and TNA. Thats really sad. I mean ECW would be so strong if it was able to survive and TNA wouldn't exist. It would be WWE on Spike and ECW on USA. It would be more competive and things would actually be good. In essense when ECW officially died wrestling got worse and that is not a disputiable fact. Maybe but a lot of those independents show really good wrestling. Mainstream wrestling though undeniebly got worse. |
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Post by The Line on Feb 9, 2007 0:56:49 GMT -5
yeah, there would be no ROH, and probably no Chikara or CZW. ECW dominated the Philly market.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 9, 2007 1:01:19 GMT -5
yeah thats an amazing point. Basically the death of ECW created a new territory system that would be the minor leagues of WWE and TNA. Thats really sad. I mean ECW would be so strong if it was able to survive and TNA wouldn't exist. It would be WWE on Spike and ECW on USA. It would be more competive and things would actually be good. In essense when ECW officially died wrestling got worse and that is not a disputiable fact. When ECW officially died mainstream wrestling got worse. Especially since WCW technically died out before ECW. But I think the current independent scene is better than having just ECW. After all, there's way too much talent out there that ECW wouldn't have the time/no-how to expose/improve. In terms of people I think would've been mainstays of ECW, had the fall not taken place: AJ Styles, Mike Quackenbush (ECW prided themselves on exposing lucha libre to America), Super Dragon, Necro Butcher, possibly Yago, Low Ki, Austin Aries, possibly Mistico, Homicide, etc. I don't think the ECW audience would gravitate to the likes of, say, Nigel McGuinness, though. |
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Post by EJS on Feb 9, 2007 1:03:12 GMT -5
One thing I don't agree with is TNA not existing. It would likely still have existed in some form. Things like XWF, WWA, and TNA still would have come about, featuring the WCW alum WWF didn't pick up like Jarrett and Hogan (it's not like they'd have gone to ECW). But I'm thinking TNA would have a far less chance of succeeding with ECW still around.
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Post by The Line on Feb 9, 2007 1:07:51 GMT -5
TNA is around because WCW folded.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 9, 2007 2:11:36 GMT -5
If ECW stuck around it probably would've grown to be a nice fed. Not current WWE big, but probably bigger than TNA currently is. All they'd have to do is keep Paul away from anything involving money.
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Post by JMA on Feb 9, 2007 2:34:22 GMT -5
As good as AJ is, I don't think he'd last long in ECW (I do think he would've had a cup of coffee with the company, though). While AJ's wrestling ability would impress the fans, I don't see them accepting him. And then there's the issue of AJ having problems with their content. I see AJ going to Japan after a short ECW stint and possibly joining whatever promotion the WCW cast-offs formed.
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Feb 9, 2007 3:47:51 GMT -5
Say ECW never folded, and was around today. But... it IS around today...... ;D |
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Feb 9, 2007 3:57:42 GMT -5
If you put the title as "Say ECW got better finacially and got a good TV deal, etc", then were talking. Basically, there would be no ROH, CZW would have stayed in the backyards, JAPW would have died, and XPW would have died quicker. PWG would have never happened as well as the entire SoCal Indy scene. No IWA-MS, WLW, WORLD-1, MLW, and dozens more indies. ECW would be what TNA is and more. Heck, I'll go as far to say TNA never happens then. And probably FMW would have went on longer as they had working relationships with them. Basically, all the indies that formed after 2001 would have never happened as ECW would be a gateway for new indy talent. ECW was THAT important. actually you're wrong on IWA-MS. IWA-MS started out when ian got tired of working for ECW and started up his own company WHILE ECW was still around. And the PWG statement is arguable, alot of those indies in So Cal were around for a while like Rev Pro, but they were considered to be almost like backyard feds since nobody heard about them. If you want to know why superdragon is so over in So Cal it's because he was one of the few guys who helped promote that scene while everyone else was going off to the east to work (see: samoa joe). Another notable person who helped out alot was blitzkrieg too. |
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Post by willywonka666 on Feb 9, 2007 9:38:50 GMT -5
ECW was at it's best when it didn't have a major deal and had a cult following, of course they made just enough to survive and put more into the shows, but that's passion vs. just making money, it's a case of having your cake and not being able to eat it too
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Post by royboy8 on Feb 9, 2007 10:40:55 GMT -5
ECW Would be so toned down if still around today to cater to the tv Network they are on, I think people would just be dissapointed in the product. Plus, we would have never have seen Heyman's stint at Smackdown Gm which led to some of my favorite matches in recent history.
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