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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2007 18:48:04 GMT -5
RVD's been hugely over for years, if they were smart they would've kept at least the ECW belt on him and used the arrest thing to promote him as rebellious and edgy, the perfect champ for the ECW brand. WWE's reaction was hilarious. So one of the worker's getting busted with weed gives the company a bad name? And I suppose exploiting the death of a worker, the company chairman getting employees to literally kiss his ass on national television, necrophilia storylines etc etc etc give the company a good name. What about the whole Austin/wifebeating thing? Did anybody get depushed because of that? Considering neither was with the company I don't see how. |
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Post by Citizen Snips on Feb 25, 2007 19:11:18 GMT -5
I thought his "heat" went all the way back to the InVasion when he was ultra-sloppy and busting guys up left und right?
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Post by destrucity on Feb 25, 2007 23:59:57 GMT -5
The Iraq heat he got was so intense that six months later he was the champion of two brands.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2007 0:02:58 GMT -5
The Iraq heat he got was so intense that six months later he was the champion of two brands. That was in 2006 after he was champ. He was out with an injury for the first trip to Iraq in 2005. |
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Post by Harmonica on Feb 26, 2007 0:03:45 GMT -5
Traffic bust, Injuring Trips, not going to Iraq or being sloppy in the ring. Take your pick. when did he injure Triple H |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2007 0:06:15 GMT -5
Traffic bust, Injuring Trips, not going to Iraq or being sloppy in the ring. Take your pick. when did he injure Triple H First Elimination Chamber. He tried to dive off a cell, couldn't make it and, landed knee on Trips' throat, crushing Trips' wind pipe. |
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Post by Ace Diamond on Feb 26, 2007 0:10:25 GMT -5
when did he injure Triple H First Elimination Chamber. He tried to dive off a cell, couldn't make it and, landed knee on Trips' throat, crushing Trips' wind pipe. "crushed" is the wrong word. There's no way Trips would be alive if his windpipe was totally crushed. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2007 0:12:54 GMT -5
Maybe he has heat for phoning it in for the past year.
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Post by Christianv2 on Feb 26, 2007 0:16:02 GMT -5
Was there anybody else who didn't want to go to Iraq? It would be interesting if there was somebody else who didn't want to go but didn't get punished as heavily as RVD does... and he is getting jobbed out like crazy, regardless of the still impressive pops he gets from the crowd. Luther Reigns I thought was let go because he didnt want to go on the first tour of Iraq |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2007 0:16:27 GMT -5
First Elimination Chamber. He tried to dive off a cell, couldn't make it and, landed knee on Trips' throat, crushing Trips' wind pipe. "crushed" is the wrong word. There's no way Trips would be alive if his windpipe was totally crushed. Alright, how about, landed on it so damn hard that Trips could barely breathe and passed out when he got backstage due to lack of oxygen? I really don't know another way to put it. I highly doubt he has heat now for injuring Triple H like over 4 years ago...if so...that's ridiculous. That may not be the cause now but, it could have been the start. Plus he already has a reputation for being sloppy so that didn't help at the time. |
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Post by Christianv2 on Feb 26, 2007 0:17:14 GMT -5
Maybe he has heat for phoning it in for the past 4 years. fixed |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Feb 26, 2007 0:19:38 GMT -5
RVD has had heat for pretty mucch his entire WWE career.
When he first came to the company it was for being stiff. He still got a chance to make the Hardcore title look good, so he lost the title to Undertaker who did nothing with it except lose it to Maven.
He was climbing out of that hole with some IC runs and great matches, and was to be a focal point for RAW until Triple H came over. He then got depushed, even losing a spot on the Armageddon PPV after injuring Trips.
After a couple years off doing nothing of note he got his chance at the top, winning the WWE title and being crowned the ECW champion, then he had to be stupid and get busted for drugs. The depush from there, along with his refusal to go to Iraq (cant blame him there) and his declining to renew his contract have led him where he is now.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Feb 26, 2007 0:20:33 GMT -5
Rob Van Dam has backstage heat because of the drug bust. Not going to Iraq didn't help. Though, it seems stupid he should have heat for getting busted for drugs when a lot WWE Champions have done worse.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Feb 26, 2007 0:28:46 GMT -5
"crushed" is the wrong word. There's no way Trips would be alive if his windpipe was totally crushed. Alright, how about, landed on it so damn hard that Trips could barely breathe and passed out when he got backstage due to lack of oxygen? I really don't know another way to put it. Yes that's better. I'm just saying when I think crushed i mean pulverized to the point that the windpipe is nonfunctional permanently and thus results in death, sorry to be so anal-retentive over it. |
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Post by Aya Reiko on Feb 26, 2007 4:20:26 GMT -5
Even if not going to Iraq didn't outright get RVD depushed, it sure as hell didn't score him any points either. If they can't rely on him to go to Iraq for a show, how can they rely on him for any other special event?
And all the other stupid stuff he'd done doesn't help him either. Individually, I wouldn't call any of them career wrecking. But when you take them all together, I think you should be able to understand why he's been in mid-card hell for most of his WWE career.
I doubt we'll ever see him on the top of the card ever again for the rest of his WWE career. It's way too easy for the McMahons to write him off as "unreliable."
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Post by carter 15 on Feb 26, 2007 6:15:10 GMT -5
Not 100% sure, considering i'm not a WWE employee end/or Vince/RVD.
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Post by careless on Feb 26, 2007 6:44:35 GMT -5
I can understand not wanting to go to Iraq, I guess. But RVD doesn't seem to walk the line as they would like him to. I would imagine the only reason he is still under the E hood is because of how popular he is. He's an ECW original, but he's one of those transplanted E ones.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Feb 26, 2007 8:31:16 GMT -5
Whenever i see the phrase "RVD Heat" in a post, i always hope that the post will be about the end falling off RVD's joint and setting fire to something. It never is of course, but I live in hope.
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Post by algertman on Feb 26, 2007 9:23:25 GMT -5
Traffic bust, Injuring Trips, not going to Iraq or being sloppy in the ring. Take your pick. Traffic Bust---yep, stupid thing HHH Inury--sorry, but HHH is injury prone. that's what happens when you hit the juice. Sloppy--with about 90% of WWEs roster Iraq--big whoop, I wouldn't go either. they asked him to go because they knew his answer and was looking for something to hold against him |
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Post by superfoe on Feb 26, 2007 9:39:21 GMT -5
How is someone landing on your throat related to steroid use?
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