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Post by heyman on Feb 11, 2007 6:36:49 GMT -5
This guy is worse than hogan. 3 spinebusters in a row? Can you be more creative than that? Give me a damn break. Hell I dont care what you guys say about the rock but when he wrestled he had a lot of wrestling moves to show. Same with Austin. I'm tired of these half assed matches and to see these marks cheer for it just makes me sick to my stomach. Not only that but whenever he does his promos he sounds like an Indian who just learned to speak english 3 months ago.
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Post by angryfan on Feb 11, 2007 6:41:59 GMT -5
I don't care about the spinebusters. What pissed me off (not being overly smarky, just, you know, plot matters) was the fact that, while the announce team was selling his shoulder injury, he went ahead and used offense consisting of SHOULDER BLOCKS. Some may call me picky, but if you manage to crap all over the announce team's attempt to forward your storyline without apparently realizing it, you're maybe in need of a whole lot more practice.
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Post by carter 15 on Feb 11, 2007 6:42:21 GMT -5
You're not any better then a "mark" if you think he sucks because he doesn't have as much "moves to show" compared to Rock, Austin etc...
The hate is so stupid.
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Post by heyman on Feb 11, 2007 6:44:12 GMT -5
well that's your very humble opinion and in my opinion i think your opinion sucks. You are suppose to be a entertainer not a friggin manual DDR.
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Feb 11, 2007 6:47:29 GMT -5
You're not any better then a "mark" if you think he sucks because he doesn't have as much "moves to show" compared to Rock, Austin etc... The hate is so stupid. Um.... what are you talking about? We're pointing out that the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, as old and knowledgeable as he should be, is like a child. You tell him one thing and he forgets all about it. "Hey batista, i'm gonna work on your right knee!" Batista sells the right, THEN the left knee. "Hey batista, i'm gonna work on your shoulder." Batista doesn't sell and then USES that same shoulder to slam and lift his opponent. "Hey Batista, you're going to have a promo against Mick Foley." "I know why you did it mick, but tell me, why did you do it?" The guy is just a worthless champion that I'd rather see as a Luther Reigns, the silent bodyguard type that loses all the curtain jerker matches.
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Post by carter 15 on Feb 11, 2007 6:57:32 GMT -5
You're not any better then a "mark" if you think he sucks because he doesn't have as much "moves to show" compared to Rock, Austin etc... The hate is so stupid. Um.... what are you talking about? We're pointing out that the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, as old and knowledgeable as he should be, is like a child. You tell him one thing and he forgets all about it. "Hey batista, i'm gonna work on your right knee!" Batista sells the right, THEN the left knee. "Hey batista, i'm gonna work on your shoulder." Batista doesn't sell and then USES that same shoulder to slam and lift his opponent. "Hey Batista, you're going to have a promo against Mick Foley." "I know why you did it mick, but tell me, why did you do it?" The guy is just a worthless champion that I'd rather see as a Luther Reigns, the silent bodyguard type that loses all the curtain jerker matches. lol thanks heyman, i think your opinion sucks too The quote you just used was by Terry Funk, so i'm confused. The spinebusters were ment to show him as a character losing it, being strong, being ready for the main event of WM, and i GUARUNTEE you, it was written into the match, do you really think on the fly he just decided to spinebuster him a million times in a row. His bad selling is bad selling, he wasn't magically better at that either during his "good" run, a lot of people saw past that though, because he wasn't the devil then. I hate having to bat for 'tista because i'm really indiffferent to him, i just hate the wagon hoppers.
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Post by boiledewokthe3rd on Feb 11, 2007 6:58:15 GMT -5
I just watched Experience (why?) and have come to the conclusion that Batista is less flexible than his action figure! Can he even straighten his arms completely?
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Post by heyman on Feb 11, 2007 6:58:17 GMT -5
You're not any better then a "mark" if you think he sucks because he doesn't have as much "moves to show" compared to Rock, Austin etc... The hate is so stupid. Um.... what are you talking about? We're pointing out that the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, as old and knowledgeable as he should be, is like a child. You tell him one thing and he forgets all about it. "Hey batista, i'm gonna work on your right knee!" Batista sells the right, THEN the left knee. "Hey batista, i'm gonna work on your shoulder." Batista doesn't sell and then USES that same shoulder to slam and lift his opponent. "Hey Batista, you're going to have a promo against Mick Foley." "I know why you did it mick, but tell me, why did you do it?" The guy is just a worthless champion that I'd rather see as a Luther Reigns, the silent bodyguard type that loses all the curtain jerker matches. Perfect explanation
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Post by heyman on Feb 11, 2007 7:01:52 GMT -5
I just dont understand how wwe booked this guy as a world Champion. I may not like Cena but I could see the reasons why he would carry the company as a champion. Cena is young, he has charisma, cuts good promos, and could put on good matches. And yeah hogan may do as much in the ring but he cuts the best promos ever and that is what gets him over. The only thing I can think of that gets batistia somehow over is because of his body and looks. That's about it. Everything else he does is horrible.
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Post by carter 15 on Feb 11, 2007 7:07:02 GMT -5
He doesn't have much, but the fact is HE IS over, so apparently he didn't need a load of mic skills or wrestling talent.
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Post by angryfan on Feb 11, 2007 7:08:32 GMT -5
He doesn't have much, but the fact is HE IS over, so apparently he didn't need a load of mic skills or wrestling talent. The fact that your statement is valid both scares and saddens me a great deal.
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Post by randomranter on Feb 11, 2007 7:55:15 GMT -5
I think what some people fail to realize is that, before his string of injuries, Batista wasn't half bad in the ring. Sure, he was never putting on wrestling clinics at the levels of HBK/Angle, but his matches were leagues ahead of where they are now.
Once Batista came back, he became slow and sloppy. He seems to be more concerned with protecting himself than his opponent, and he approaches every move with a "Will doing this tear my triceps again?" attitude.
He also seems to have lost his passion for the business -- again, probably due to the injuries. He's 37 years old. He's already had one string of injuries kill his momentum. The injuries have probably taken a toll on what he's able to do in (and out of) the ring. The question of "When will I get injured again" must be in the back of every wrestler's mind. Some can handle it, some cant. Batista seems to be in the latter category. He's questioning himself, he knows that, at best, he's only got a couple of good years left anyway. At this point, it's become fairly obvious that he's lost his edge and is simply "mailing it in."
Batista has that "World Champion" look to him. He's handsome, muscular, looks FAR, FAR younger than he actually is. The girls drool all over him. He's someone who, if done right, can be marketed outside of the wrestling world for cross-promotions. And, before the injuries, he had a charisma and intensity to him that a world champion should have. He never did have the skills -- but then again, neither did Hogan. At this point, I think Vince is giving him the belt, knowing that he's over largely on his looks alone, and hoping that the rest catch back up to him eventually.
But remember, Vince. Ahmed Johnson had that look, too.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 11, 2007 8:25:24 GMT -5
I think what some people fail to realize is that, before his string of injuries, Batista wasn't half bad in the ring. Sure, he was never putting on wrestling clinics at the levels of HBK/Angle, but his matches were leagues ahead of where they are now. Once Batista came back, he became slow and sloppy. He seems to be more concerned with protecting himself than his opponent, and he approaches every move with a "Will doing this tear my triceps again?" attitude. He also seems to have lost his passion for the business -- again, probably due to the injuries. He's 37 years old. He's already had one string of injuries kill his momentum. The injuries have probably taken a toll on what he's able to do in (and out of) the ring. The question of "When will I get injured again" must be in the back of every wrestler's mind. Some can handle it, some cant. Batista seems to be in the latter category. He's questioning himself, he knows that, at best, he's only got a couple of good years left anyway. At this point, it's become fairly obvious that he's lost his edge and is simply "mailing it in." Batista has that "World Champion" look to him. He's handsome, muscular, looks FAR, FAR younger than he actually is. The girls drool all over him. He's someone who, if done right, can be marketed outside of the wrestling world for cross-promotions. And, before the injuries, he had a charisma and intensity to him that a world champion should have. He never did have the skills -- but then again, neither did Hogan. At this point, I think Vince is giving him the belt, knowing that he's over largely on his looks alone, and hoping that the rest catch back up to him eventually. But remember, Vince. Ahmed Johnson had that look, too. Agreed 100%
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Post by STMP on Feb 11, 2007 8:31:19 GMT -5
I think what some people fail to realize is that, before his string of injuries, Batista wasn't half bad in the ring. Sure, he was never putting on wrestling clinics at the levels of HBK/Angle, but his matches were leagues ahead of where they are now. Once Batista came back, he became slow and sloppy. He seems to be more concerned with protecting himself than his opponent, and he approaches every move with a "Will doing this tear my triceps again?" attitude. He also seems to have lost his passion for the business -- again, probably due to the injuries. He's 37 years old. He's already had one string of injuries kill his momentum. The injuries have probably taken a toll on what he's able to do in (and out of) the ring. The question of "When will I get injured again" must be in the back of every wrestler's mind. Some can handle it, some cant. Batista seems to be in the latter category. He's questioning himself, he knows that, at best, he's only got a couple of good years left anyway. At this point, it's become fairly obvious that he's lost his edge and is simply "mailing it in." Batista has that "World Champion" look to him. He's handsome, muscular, looks FAR, FAR younger than he actually is. The girls drool all over him. He's someone who, if done right, can be marketed outside of the wrestling world for cross-promotions. And, before the injuries, he had a charisma and intensity to him that a world champion should have. He never did have the skills -- but then again, neither did Hogan. At this point, I think Vince is giving him the belt, knowing that he's over largely on his looks alone, and hoping that the rest catch back up to him eventually. But remember, Vince. Ahmed Johnson had that look, too. Bring back Ahmed!
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Feb 11, 2007 8:35:06 GMT -5
Aside from his size limiting his mobility, the guy has zero endurance. 3 minutes into a match, he's sweating like a hog and can barely move.
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Post by Legion on Feb 11, 2007 8:40:41 GMT -5
It amuses me that he seems to have become the 'new' Warrior as far as his skill vs overness ratio.
I'm not a huge Batista fan, but i cant say i dislike him either. My main concern is that he doesn's end the Undertaker's streak because that would be truly and utterly pointless.
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Post by salTy on Feb 11, 2007 9:33:09 GMT -5
He doesn't deserve that belt. I don't care how over he is. Matt Hardy is one of the most over people on the entire roster and he's jobbed out almost every week.
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Post by Person With A Hat on Feb 11, 2007 10:23:15 GMT -5
He doesn't have much, but the fact is HE IS over, so apparently he didn't need a load of mic skills or wrestling talent. The fact that your statement is valid both scares and saddens me a great deal. It just confirms the thought that anything can get over if it's a face and it wins matches.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 11, 2007 10:41:15 GMT -5
Aside from his size limiting his mobility, the guy has zero endurance. 3 minutes into a match, he's sweating like a hog and can barely move. He should just have his mouth open all the time like Bret.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Feb 11, 2007 10:47:10 GMT -5
He doesn't deserve that belt. I don't care how over he is. Matt Hardy is one of the most over people on the entire roster and he's jobbed out almost every week. I agree and at this point I feel Matt Hardy would be an improvement over Batista.
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