Lazy wrestlers in wwe (inspired by Flair's promo)

[CrazySting]

Carlito: Obviously. He has the potential to be great but just isn't bothered.

Batista: It's possible he's not lazy, but he's just too scared of getting hurt again. However, his promos have sucked as well. I hope he doesn't end taker's streak.

Mr Kennedy: I think he could be a lot better in ring wise than he is.

Chris Benoit: right now he sort of reminds me of the later stages of his wcw career. WWE get some of the blame for not giving him a reason to get enthusiastic again.

Jillian Hall: Like Benoit, she's a great wrestler, but WWE just havn't given her a reason to try.

more?

[samachine]

I don't think it's lazy if they have no one to try with/

Oh and I say Flair. Wow you take back body drops. youre something else Flair! Try being Terry Funk who gets barbwire in the eye, moonsaults and keeps up with the pace in the match.

[Ace Diamond]

Orton, Randall Keith. Sandbags a lot of moves, only seems to put effort into his chinlocks, and mic skills that seem to have been inspired by the Scott Steiner school of "Shut the hell up!". Has yet to prove he has something more to him than a name.

[Chris Decker-The Wild Rover]

sabu right now

[CrazySting]

Oh, RVD as well. He's phoning it in right now. Maybe he knows he's leaving, so he doesn't see the point in trying.

[Arturo Classico]

cenamark21 said:

Carlito: Obviously. He has the potential to be great but just isn't bothered.

Batista: It's possible he's not lazy, but he's just too scared of getting hurt again. However, his promos have sucked as well. I hope he doesn't end taker's streak.

Mr Kennedy: I think he could be a lot better in ring wise than he is.

Chris Benoit: right now he sort of reminds me of the later stages of his wcw career. WWE get some of the blame for not giving him a reason to get enthusiastic again.

Jillian Hall: Like Benoit, she's a great wrestler, but WWE just havn't given her a reason to try.

more?

Let me anaylze your picks.

Carlito-well he might be the total package for WWE and could be the next star of WWE. However management has screwed him up royally! His gimmick was messed up and was given storylines that are untrue to his charchter. Would you try if you were treated like that? Anyway I don't think he's "lazy" since his matches are still better than most on Raw it's just they have to stop him with the romance storylines and the springboard offense, get him on the mic and we will have the "kennedy" of RAW. He has to be a tweener and than he will get huge responses and he could main event Wrestlemania if they do all this and give him real feuds that can make him look good, a potential storyline with Flair could be just what he needs.

Batista-Seriously he is just a piece of crap. All he does is power offense no technique. Really he's what Warlord would be with the World Title. He's unintreasting on the mic and I just dislike him. He barely tries and can rarely sell moves. He had one good feud with HHH and thats it. I see no point in him. Also his career almost ended with a simple safe chokeslam.

Mr. Kennedy-seriously one of the most intertaining performers since The Rock. I feel he is perfect and is ready of the main event right now. His offense fits perfectly with his charchter and no one in WWE is capable of delievering as good promos as KK seriously in fact I feel he is underrated. To be honest if he was "better" in the ring it would not work since he is doing the toughest thing and that is carrying people and perfectly selling of moves. To be honest if you contrast Kennedy and Batista you see a crap wrestler with a great wrestler.

Chris Benoit-He's done in my eyes seriously he should just be an agent. I don't see why he is on the active roster. He has done everything he could on Raw and Smackdown that anyone could do. Maybe a move to ECW would cahnge my mind. I feel he would be better served to be on TNA. He will never get pushed ever again and furthest he will get will be the US Title.

Jillian hall-Another case like Carlito, of being just misused. I love her she hilarious and shows personality the skit last night with her and Kristal as great. Which gets to the point both shhould be moved, traded, or drafted to RAW. Why have two talented entertaining female wrestlers on Smackdown where they have very little point. It makes no sense to me Jillian Hall might rival Mickie as the best female wrestler on the roster. to me it is just sad.

Okay now my picks:

Chris Masters-Boring! Boring! Just awful and his moveset is pathetic and weak for someone his size and if he did more power moves the Masterlock would have a point

Lashley-Uber-green world champion movest again boring he has no moves of his own and just boring. If he would do more mm strikes and added some submission and had a manager he would be much better

Hardcore Holly-BLAH! Why is he on the roster? He just in a wate of space to me and should be released so the vaccum that his Holly would cease to be.

Boogeyman-Do i need to get into this? Funny gimmick however he was no real skills but having good wrestlers like Booker, JBL, Helms, and Finlay job out to him is sad and I get tired of seeing him to be honest when I could see MVP instead.

[CrazySting]

Boogeyman isn't lazy. Even if he tried he'd still be bad. Some guys are just beyond help. All the heat on carlito is because people know he is capable of being good.

[Suck it Trebek!]

samachine said:

I don't think it's lazy if they have no one to try with/

Oh and I say Flair. Wow you take back body drops. youre something else Flair! Try being Terry Funk who gets barbwire in the eye, moonsaults and keeps up with the pace in the match.

Well, he did severely injure his back in that plane crash, so I would say wow for taking those bumps.

[rrm15]

I agree that Boogeyman is horrible even if he tried.

By the way, thank you for not being afraid of the smarks and putting Benoit on that list. I don't think he's LAZY per se, I just think he's done all he can do and there's really nothing left for him. I mean, I'd like another title reign, but I don't know if that will happen. I started a thread months ago on whether or not he should retire, and got flamed for it.

[Arturo Classico]

vcreed said:

samachine said:

I don't think it's lazy if they have no one to try with/

Oh and I say Flair. Wow you take back body drops. youre something else Flair! Try being Terry Funk who gets barbwire in the eye, moonsaults and keeps up with the pace in the match.

Well, he did severely injure his back in that plane crash, so I would say wow for taking those bumps.

Why I have heard everything now! One thing Flair isn't and that is lazy! He was in cage matches and hardcore matches his whole career. Do research! He might not have done Moonsaults and compete in deathmatches but that dosen't make him lazy! I mean I have huge respect for both and people should respect Terry Funk but I don't think they do. That's sad because people don't realize his he was a tactician and a great wrestler in his day. I mean sure he's hardcore and took seriously scary bumps that people half his age wouldn't do! But he could do more than that! I feel it's sad that people just base Funk's career on that and not how great of a wrestler he was seriously sad!

[Dr. T is an alien]

I don't think Boogeyman is lazy. Perhaps he is always going to be limited in the ring, but he is not lazy. I actually thought that his match with Finlay was pretty damn good, but that was more Finaly's doing than his. At least he kept up with Finlay.

Carlito's work is really uninspiring.

Master's can be very interesting, provided he works with the right people. His matches with Lawler were great because King was experienced enough to allow the muscular heel to dictate the pace of the match, allowing Masters to both use power moves and letting Masters use the little things to keep Lawler as the sympathetic babyface. I think this is why we keep seeing him work with Super Crazy, though the fact is that Masters really needs to job a little less for his gimmick to actually work right.

Batista is really showing his age now. Maybe he is reluctant to really work because when he put forth a lot of effort last year he got injured twice, but it really doesn't help that the writers haven't been able to make use of the personality he displayed when he feuded with HHH and Eddie.

I have no real problems with Kennedy's work.

Jillian is really being wasted. She can't work the way she can because of who she is put in the ring with. Seriously, when Ashley is the most experienced and capable of her opponents, she can't do a lot of things. Remember, THAT Jackie Gayda match was horrible despite Trish trying like crazy to keep it from stinking.

Benoit really is not inspiring right now either. Honestly, why is it that he and Lashley are not in each other's spot?

RVD and Sabu do not surprise me. They have a history of this kind of work.

Lashley honestly is working hard. He just doesn't know what he should be doing.

Flair seems to take it match by match, but as the sympathetic babyface it is more the fault of his opponent if they cannot get heat on him.

[CrazySting]

RVD only tries when he's getting pushed. A lot of wrestlers are like that, I think.

[Dr. T is an alien]

cenamark21 said:

RVD only tries when he's getting pushed. A lot of wrestlers are like that, I think.

I think it is a shame that is true when Shelton seriously busts his hump in every throw away match known to man.

[Big Daddy Bad Booking]

kingsofwrestling said:

vcreed said:

Well, he did severely injure his back in that plane crash, so I would say wow for taking those bumps.

Why I have heard everything now! One thing Flair isn't and that is lazy! He was in cage matches and hardcore matches his whole career. Do research! He might not have done Moonsaults and compete in deathmatches but that dosen't make him lazy! I mean I have huge respect for both and people should respect Terry Funk but I don't think they do. That's sad because people don't realize his he was a tactician and a great wrestler in his day. I mean sure he's hardcore and took seriously scary bumps that people half his age wouldn't do! But he could do more than that! I feel it's sad that people just base Funk's career on that and not how great of a wrestler he was seriously sad!

Let me add one thing: Not ONE, and I mean ONE, wrestler will ever have a schedule like Ric Flair had in the mid 80's. He defended that NWA World Heavyweight Championship for TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS, and wrestled in 60 mintues draws almost every single night, twice on Sunday. He may not be like that today, but his work rate is better than.... JOHN CENA! WAD BORKRATE!

[Grendel]

katievick said:

kingsofwrestling said:

Why I have heard everything now! One thing Flair isn't and that is lazy! He was in cage matches and hardcore matches his whole career. Do research! He might not have done Moonsaults and compete in deathmatches but that dosen't make him lazy! I mean I have huge respect for both and people should respect Terry Funk but I don't think they do. That's sad because people don't realize his he was a tactician and a great wrestler in his day. I mean sure he's hardcore and took seriously scary bumps that people half his age wouldn't do! But he could do more than that! I feel it's sad that people just base Funk's career on that and not how great of a wrestler he was seriously sad!

Let me add one thing: Not ONE, and I mean ONE, wrestler will ever have a schedule like Ric Flair had in the mid 80's. He defended that NWA World Heavyweight Championship for TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS, and wrestled in 60 mintues draws almost every single night, twice on Sunday. He may not be like that today, but his work rate is better than.... JOHN CENA! WAD BORKRATE!

You beat me to it, man. Back in the day before the internet, we had to get our wrestling information from the Apter mags. When you looked at the wrestling standings, you could see that Ric Flair would defend his world title at house shows, often twice in one day on Saturdays and Sundays. I think he has more than paid his dues, with the work schedule that he had back in the 80's, plus with all the crap he had to go through with WCW with the horrible booking towards the end.

As for wrestlers that I think are lazy, I would have to go with:

Chris Masters. They pushed this guy like crazy with promos leading up to his debut, I haven't seen anything like that since the old WCW days and Glacier. And what do they have to show for it? A guy who used a finisher that was maybe feared back in the 80's. And he became so less impressive once the "Wellness Policy" came into being. He really needs to work on his mic and in ring skills.

Randy Orton. The only reason that Vince put the title on him was so that Brock Lesnar would no longer be the youngest champ in WWE history. And he hasn't done much to show that he deserved the title since then. He uses way too many restholds for someone so young. He needs to work on his in ring and mic skills, just like Masters.

I would add Carlito to this list, but he just doesn't seem to have much to work with. A very capable wrestler, but Creative has saddled him with a crappy storyline to work with.

[nostradumbass]

aodpilot said:

Orton, Randall Keith. Sandbags a lot of moves, only seems to put effort into his chinlocks, and mic skills that seem to have been inspired by the Scott Steiner school of "Shut the hell up!". Has yet to prove he has something more to him than a name.

I think he's putting in more effort now than he has in a while.

[CrazySting]

I dislike the chinocks as much as anyone, but the rest of the time is work is usually good. I mean, can anyone point out a really bad Randy Orton match?

[nostradumbass]

cenamark21 said:

I dislike the chinocks as much as anyone, but the rest of the time is work is usually good. I mean, can anyone point out a really bad Randy Orton match?

There are medicore ones, but no, I can't think of a flat-out bad match.