Ben Wyatt
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 8, 2007 8:30:58 GMT -5
Didn't vince learn anything from the Attitude era Austin, Rock & Foley were some of the biggest names in the business and they werent unstoppable killing machines or Shoved down peoples throats. Ok, I'll get flamed here, but Austin kinda was shoved down people's throats and to an extent, he was unstoppable.
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Feb 8, 2007 8:31:52 GMT -5
Didn't vince learn anything from the Attitude era Austin, Rock & Foley were some of the biggest names in the business and they werent unstoppable killing machines or Shoved down peoples throats. Ok, I'll get flamed here, but Austin kinda was shoved down people's throats and to an extent, he was unstoppable. But he Lost ALOT Sometimes clean
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Feb 8, 2007 8:35:16 GMT -5
Vince was obviously using the restroom when the Punk/Striker match was going on
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Ben Wyatt
Crow T. Robot
Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 8, 2007 8:39:58 GMT -5
Ok, I'll get flamed here, but Austin kinda was shoved down people's throats and to an extent, he was unstoppable. But he Lost ALOT Sometimes clean A LOT? If you're talking during any of his main time on the top (97-01) then I can only really think of Foley pinning him during the triple threat match at Summerslam 99 and Angle beating him at Summerslam 01.
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Post by odanobunaga on Feb 8, 2007 8:54:23 GMT -5
Man sometimes I just hate this.
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Post by skskillz on Feb 8, 2007 9:20:27 GMT -5
But he Lost ALOT Sometimes clean Could you elaborate on this? Oh, and give ECW a chance. It's only been on for (x amount of time). I sorta miss that tagline. It was like when kids would say "there is a Santa, just wait for the 25th". Oh well, I guess everyone's given up on it now.
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Brain Of F'n J
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Feb 8, 2007 9:40:35 GMT -5
Ok, I'll get flamed here, but Austin kinda was shoved down people's throats and to an extent, he was unstoppable. But he Lost ALOT Sometimes clean Just on PPV, between '97 and '01. Lost to Bret Hart, WM13. Lost to Undertaker, A Cold Day In Hell. Lost to Kane, KOTR '98. Lost to Undertaker and Kane, Breakdown. Lost to Mankind, SurSer '98. Lost to Vince McMahon, Royal Rumble. Lost to Undertaker, Over The Edge '99. Lost to Shane & Vince McMahon, KOTR '99. Lost to Mankind, SS '99. Lost to Triple H, October '99 event (I forget the name) Lost to Triple H, No Way Out '01. Lost to Kurt Angle, SS '01. Lost to Kurt Angle, September '01 event (forget the name of this one, too). Lost to The Rock, SurSer '01. Yup. Totally unstoppable. Jed Shaffer ~It's sad that I pulled that all from memory.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Feb 8, 2007 9:43:08 GMT -5
He also lost to Jericho at the December '01 show (which was either Judgment Day or Armageddon)
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Post by Jiren on Feb 8, 2007 9:46:17 GMT -5
He also lost to Jericho at the December '01 show (which was either Judgment Day or Armageddon) Vengence, the tournament for the undisputed title
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Feb 8, 2007 9:49:16 GMT -5
Damn, thanks, Doom...
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Post by amsiraK on Feb 8, 2007 9:49:27 GMT -5
Man so now we have both Cena and Lashley who can never look weak no matter what. This is the part I don't get. Cena would be infintely better off if he were the "Struggling Face" rather than "Superman's Even More Undefeatable Cousin Who Raps Sometimes." It'd make him more palatable to everyone. Have him win, but make it a huge effort to get him there. The RR match with Umaga, f'rinstance. That way, NO ONE looks bad. And what's this about Lashley selling too much? What's he supposed to do... NOT sell? Does Vince have NO ONE to tell him that everyone in the match is supposed to make EACH OTHER look good? Oh, wait. He does. And he's giving Double A heat for this.
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Ace Diamond
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Post by Ace Diamond on Feb 8, 2007 10:22:03 GMT -5
In December ECW's problem was Paul Heyman, in January it was CM Punk (allegedly), now it's all Arn Anderson's fault. Which might make sense since he's the one that allegedly said a 14 year veteran with a bad arm is the most important guy on the roster even though he never really got a serious main event push ever. However this probably wouldn't have been an issue at all if Heyman was still here.
Point is, Vince is once again refusing to admit when he's wrong. And all the people near him seem to have had their spines removed so that they can't tell him he's wrong either. But I have just one thing to say to this: If he was pissed at Lashley's selling, then why did Lashley sell somewhat decently (at least to me) for Kenny and Holly on Monday and Tuesday nights?
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Ragnal
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Post by Ragnal on Feb 8, 2007 10:26:34 GMT -5
In December ECW's problem was Paul Heyman, in January it was CM Punk (allegedly), now it's all Arn Anderson's fault. Which might make sense since he's the one that allegedly said a 14 year veteran with a bad arm is the most important guy on the roster even though he never really got a serious main event push ever. However this probably wouldn't have been an issue at all if Heyman was still here. Point is, Vince is once again refusing to admit when he's wrong. And all the people near him seem to have had their spines removed so that they can't tell him he's wrong either. But I have just one thing to say to this: If he was pissed at Lashley's selling, then why did Lashley sell somewhat decently (at least to me) for Kenny and Holly on Monday and Tuesday nights? Because Vince doesn't want his champions to sell. That being the case, make Sabu champion.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Feb 8, 2007 10:29:28 GMT -5
In December ECW's problem was Paul Heyman, in January it was CM Punk (allegedly), now it's all Arn Anderson's fault. Which might make sense since he's the one that allegedly said a 14 year veteran with a bad arm is the most important guy on the roster even though he never really got a serious main event push ever. However this probably wouldn't have been an issue at all if Heyman was still here. Point is, Vince is once again refusing to admit when he's wrong. And all the people near him seem to have had their spines removed so that they can't tell him he's wrong either. But I have just one thing to say to this: If he was pissed at Lashley's selling, then why did Lashley sell somewhat decently (at least to me) for Kenny and Holly on Monday and Tuesday nights? Because Vince doesn't want his champions to sell. That being the case, make Sabu champion. Sorry let me rephrase what I was trying to say: I'm basically saying the selling Lashley did should not have happened in McMahonLand, yet he sold anyway, thus casting a bit of doubt into this story (as is always true with the internet wrestling news) But yeah...Sabu should be champion.
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Post by Ragnal on Feb 8, 2007 10:33:22 GMT -5
Because Vince doesn't want his champions to sell. That being the case, make Sabu champion. Sorry let me rephrase what I was trying to say: I'm basically saying the selling Lashley did should not have happened in McMahonLand, yet he sold anyway, thus casting a bit of doubt into this story (as is always true with the internet wrestling news) But yeah...Sabu should be champion. True. Anymore with ECW and CM Punk, you have to take the wrestling newz with a grain of salt. Unless the source is Rajah. Then you can call bull on it.
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Post by hollywood on Feb 8, 2007 10:34:10 GMT -5
The report was probably accurate when it was written, but things change in WWE by the hour. I swear everyone in that company must be bipolar.
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Post by careless on Feb 8, 2007 10:56:05 GMT -5
He also exclaimed that there wasn't a single guy on the ECW roster that knew how to work. I so love this. You fired most of the guys who could work so you could push your E approved C-Show talent Vince, remember?
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Post by gabou142 on Feb 8, 2007 11:07:45 GMT -5
Nobody can work a match...funny, I remember a guy...CM Punk, something like that. Well, that guy fought quite a few not-so-bad match in his days in ROH if I remember correctly!!
Of course, he is nothing next to the incredible wrestler that is Bobby Lashley, but not even Bret is in the same league as Lashley. Vince, you need to realise that Lashley is unique, and that no one can even come close to that level of talent and charsima. Don't compare people with him, please. [/Sarcasm]
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 8, 2007 11:08:49 GMT -5
Nobody can work a match...funny, I remember a guy...CM Punk, something like that. Well, that guy fought quite a few not-so-bad match in his days in ROH if I remember correctly!! Of course, he is nothing next to the incredible wrestler that is Bobby Lashley, but not even Bret is in the same league as Lashley. Vince, you need to realise that Lashley is unique, and that no one can even come close to that level of talent and charsima. Don't compare people with him, please. [/Sarcasm] Yeah, that's just unfair.
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Post by gabou142 on Feb 8, 2007 11:12:10 GMT -5
aahhh, and let's say it as it is, Lashley sucks dicks big time!! He can't wrestle, he is f***ing ugly and I shited things that had more charisma than him!! Vince, if you think Cena had mixed reaction last year, wait until you see the reaction people will give that piece of crap in a few month if you push him down their throat!!
Vince, give up already, please, you lost it man!
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