Wrestlemania 23 Title Matches

[Rockhound]

I was wondering. So far the current WM23 card has the 2 main events(Cena/Michaels, Batista/Taker) the Trump v. McMahon angle, and the MITB. My question is what other titles will be contested? The IC title hasn't been contested in years and I don't believe the U.S. Title has ever been contested at a WM and it doesn't look very likely it will be this year. You can pretty much rule out the Cruiserweight Title. The RAW tag titles will either be facing each other in the a main event or in the MITB. The SD Tag titles might be in it and hopefully the Women's title won't be but if it is, who will be in it? Do we need to see another Mickie/Melina match? Has this company who supposedly has all of the top talent reduced itself to just the main titles?

Think back a bit to the days of yesteryear. Say, WM14. Look at the lineup:

WWF Light Heavyweight title-Taka v. Aguila

WWF European Title-HHH v. Owen

WWF Tag Title-New Age Outlaws v. Cactus Jack/Terry Funk

WWF Intercontinental Title-Rock v. Shamrock

WWF Heavyweight Title-Michaels v. Austin

Other matches were the Tag Team Battle Royal, Mixed Tag(Luna/TAFKAGD v. Mero/Sable), and Undertaker v. Kane. 8 total matches. 5 were title matches. And they were good matches. All of them. Now we're lucky to get 3 championship matches.

[Big DSR Energy]

I don't believe the U.S. Title has ever been contested at a WM

You missed Cena vs. Big Show, WrestleMania 20.

[Rockhound]

dsr said:

I don't believe the U.S. Title has ever been contested at a WM

You missed Cena vs. Big Show, WrestleMania 20.

Your point being?

[Big DSR Energy]

rockhound said:

dsr said:

You missed Cena vs. Big Show, WrestleMania 20.

Your point being?

My point being that the US title has been contested at Mania.

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dsr said:

I don't believe the U.S. Title has ever been contested at a WM

You missed Cena vs. Big Show, WrestleMania 20.

and JBL vs. Benoit last year.

[Rockhound]

dsr said:

rockhound said:

Your point being?

My point being that the US title has been contested at Mania.

But that ought to tell you something. I watched that 'Mania and didn't remember that match. But thank you for correcting me on that.

[j-man]

The only titles that matter are the WWE championship and World Heavyweight Championship.

Who really cares about the IC, US, Cruiser, or other B/C list belts? The only times those belts ever had any credibility was when someone like a Bret Hart, HBK, or Steve Austin had them. Otherwise they are meaningless and I wouldn't mind if the E just got rid of them. The idea of a second tier belt is kind of ridiculous. The only belt that makes sense is the cruiser title because it represents a weight class, but then again there isn't weight classes in pro wrestling.

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jerger212 said:

I wouldn't mind if the E just got rid of them.

Yeah, cause that went over so well last time. No one out of the main event had anything to do.

[Tim]

jinxed said:

jerger212 said:

I wouldn't mind if the E just got rid of them.

Yeah, cause that went over so well last time. No one out of the main event had anything to do.

Last time? When did they ever do that?

[Big DSR Energy]

tim said:

jinxed said:

Yeah, cause that went over so well last time. No one out of the main event had anything to do.

Last time? When did they ever do that?

You missed the time they unified the hardcore/european/IC titles into the "TRIPLE H IS THE GREATEST WRESTLER EVER" title.

[Tim]

dsr said:

You missed the time they unified the hardcore/european/IC titles into the "TRIPLE H IS THE GREATEST WRESTLER EVER" title.

Ah, that must have been during the 'I don't give a f*** anymore' period of April 2002 - December 2003.

[Banned Member]

jerger212 said:

The only titles that matter are the WWE championship and World Heavyweight Championship.

Who really cares about the IC, US, Cruiser, or other B/C list belts? The only times those belts ever had any credibility was when someone like a Bret Hart, HBK, or Steve Austin had them. Otherwise they are meaningless and I wouldn't mind if the E just got rid of them. The idea of a second tier belt is kind of ridiculous. The only belt that makes sense is the cruiser title because it represents a weight class, but then again there isn't weight classes in pro wrestling.

Ahem HTM, and Mr.Perfect were good heel IC title holders.

[j-man]

jinxed said:

jerger212 said:

I wouldn't mind if the E just got rid of them.

Yeah, cause that went over so well last time. No one out of the main event had anything to do.

There's currently 9 different title belts. That's a little ridiculous. I don't think being IC, Cruiser, or US champion has proven to mean anything. Did Jeff Hardy or Chris Benoit become more over by winning those belts? No. When a majority of guys are walking around with one title or another it weakens all the belts and makes them seem insignificant. Even worse is because there are so many belts there is no way the writers can even get all the champions on TV in active storylines. Just look at the US and Cruiser titles on SD.

I think the E would be better off with no womens/cruiser title and just one second tier and tag belt.

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tim said:

dsr said:

You missed the time they unified the hardcore/european/IC titles into the "TRIPLE H IS THE GREATEST WRESTLER EVER" title.

Ah, that must have been during the 'I don't give a wax anymore' period of April 2002 - December 2003.

Yep, RAW had the WHT and the Women's Title. Smackdown! had the WWE Title, the Crusierweight Title and the Tag Team Title. The was nothing for anyone out of the main event. It was (outside of Trips who is my favorite) an absolute disaster, IMO.

[wwerules60]

Again the brand split screws things up, there are way too many belts for anyone to care about anymore.

[Tim]

jerger212 said:

jinxed said:

Yeah, cause that went over so well last time. No one out of the main event had anything to do.

There's currently 9 different title belts. That's a little ridiculous. I don't think being IC, Cruiser, or US champion has proven to mean anything. Did Jeff Hardy or Chris Benoit become more over by winning those belts? No. When a majority of guys are walking around with one title or another it weakens all the belts and makes them seem insignificant. Even worse is because there are so many belts there is no way the writers can even get all the champions on TV in active storylines. Just look at the US and Cruiser titles on SD.

I think the E would be better off with no womens/cruiser title and just one second tier and tag belt.

Eh, I don't know, I think it could work.

Raw:

WWE Championship

For the true main event players.

Contenders: John Cena, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Randy Orton, Edge, Rob Van Dam

Intercontinental Championship

For the mid to upper midcarders, a few who are on the verge of breaking into the main event scene.

Contenders: Umaga, Carlito, Johnny Nitro, Chris Masters, Jeff Hardy, Kenny Dykstra, Marcus Corvon, Kevin Thorn

Women's Championship:

For the women, what would they do otherwise?

Contenders: Mickie James, Melina, Victoria, Jillian

SmackDown!:

World Heavyweight Championship:

Contenders: Batista, Undertaker, Chris Benoit, Booker T, Kane, Bobby Lashley

United States Championship:

Contenders: Rey Mysterio, Ken Kennedy, Montel Vontavious Porter, Matt Hardy, Finlay, Gregory Helms, C.M. Punk, Elijah Burke

Tag Team Championship:

Contenders: London and Kendrick, World's Greatest Tag Team, Blue Bloods, Cryme Tyme