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Post by extremek on Feb 15, 2007 13:16:07 GMT -5
I bet Great Khali could break that hold easily.
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Post by kaseyjakes on Feb 16, 2007 0:32:57 GMT -5
a full nelson is NOT hard to break. i could break the masterlock (dead serious, i'm a 2nd degree black belt). the masterlock challenge pisses me off to no end.
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Post by Garee on Feb 16, 2007 0:34:05 GMT -5
I don't care
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Post by Richard on Feb 16, 2007 0:45:54 GMT -5
Powered out of? Maybe, depends on how good and strong his grip is.
Maneuvered out of? Without a doubt.
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Post by tequilamokinbrd on Feb 16, 2007 0:48:18 GMT -5
The Big Show, The Great Khali, Brock Lesnar, and Bobby Lashley could probably all power out with ease. Especially Big Show, I couldn't see Masters even holding it on him for that long.
For some reason, I could really see Rob Van Dam getting out of it. He seems like he could just slip out.
Actually, the more I think about it, I'm betting half the roster could get out of that thing.
I'm sure Chris Masters is a strong guy(Steroids are a hellava drug) and there are guys on the roster that would have no chance to break it(cough billy kidman cough), but he's not Superman, they're just putting his move over to get HIM over, simple as that.
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Post by angryfan on Feb 16, 2007 0:52:04 GMT -5
Sorry, but when his whole gimmick is based around "let me put my finisher on you, and the rules say you can't fight back until I have it locked in all the way", it's just moronic.
Hell, it's not even heelish, it just screams retarded.
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Post by Hensley on Feb 16, 2007 0:59:32 GMT -5
Maybe not on pure strength alone, but if you swung your leg back and gave him a nice kick in the nuts...you could break it
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Feb 16, 2007 2:24:13 GMT -5
Is the MASTLOCK one of Val Venis's new moves?
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Post by angryfan on Feb 16, 2007 2:26:58 GMT -5
Is the MASTLOCK one of Val Venis's new moves? Nope, that's the Masterc - er, nevermind. |
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Feb 16, 2007 2:47:40 GMT -5
Sorry, but when his whole gimmick is based around "let me put my finisher on you, and the rules say you can't fight back until I have it locked in all the way", it's just moronic. Hell, it's not even heelish, it just screams retarded. It's called the Masterlock Challenge, not The Wrestling Match. The point is to put over that the Masterlock can't be broken. His GIMMICK is that he's an egotistical narcisist who believes he has a hold that cannot be broken. The point of the Masterlock Challenge is showing how egotistical he is and show off his hold. So why would he let anyone do anything before the hold was locked in if they accepted the rules? The concept itself is not stupid. To call it that is to ignore certain points. However it's becoming very tiring. It'd be nice for it to go somewhere and all. I mean, if the soldier in Iraq doesn't count then what will? Not even SuperCena could do it. Probably Bobby Lashley. Hate it when I answer my own questions. |
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Post by kickassforumguyme on Feb 16, 2007 3:11:19 GMT -5
I bet Great Khali could break that hold easily. |
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Post by I Got Heat on Feb 16, 2007 5:34:47 GMT -5
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Post by thesunbeast on Feb 16, 2007 7:33:30 GMT -5
The thing is, is that the masterlock is a swinging version of the full nelson, and the goal for most martial artists is to rverse the moves before they are fully locked on. A move like that would be hard to power out of if it's applied with full force. But it's not like it would work the same in real life as it is on TV.
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Post by odanobunaga on Feb 16, 2007 8:33:43 GMT -5
Reality check time. Do you think that, if Masters REALLY put someone in the Masterlock, anyone could actually break it? I'm talking someone sitting down and Masters putting it on them from behind. Er.. if you know what I mean. According to that IGN interview from a previous thread, he can BENCH PRESS 400 pounds(!) So I really can't imagine someone actually being able to "power out" of his full nelson. Thoughts? Dude it´s a damn "Leigo" !(It´s the term we use in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu about a hold that is easily reversed/A hold that has no place in Brazilian Jiu jitsu because there is another hold that is harder to escape/A hold aplied by someone that doesn´t know what the hell they are doing.) it´s pretty easy to reverse in fact. Now if Masters put someone in a "Mata Leão"(Rear Naked Choke for you in the English language ;D) I doubt any one would escape. Talking with my farther who have a purple belt(One before the black belt; He is retired tought.) in BJJ he told me how to escape the hold. You must cross your hands in your forehead and then use your right(or left) arm against the same arm that is holding, while waling to that way. The position that you put the arm would make him break the hold, because his hands couldn´t reach each other anymore. Full Nelsons are very good if you are small tought, it´s harder to break because your hands would be more together and harder to you break and escape. |
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Post by joeman on Feb 16, 2007 9:04:22 GMT -5
The thing is, is that the masterlock is a swinging version of the full nelson, and the goal for most martial artists is to rverse the moves before they are fully locked on. A move like that would be hard to power out of if it's applied with full force. But it's not like it would work the same in real life as it is on TV. I agree, I mean how the hell would have any time concentrating if you being swung around. I said this in another thread that the Masterlock shouldn't be considered a lame finisher because in real life very few people can get out of it. |
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Post by Shy Guy on Feb 16, 2007 9:19:31 GMT -5
This topic totally reeks of markitude. its a nice change.... |
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Post by joeman on Feb 16, 2007 9:21:24 GMT -5
This topic totally reeks of markitude. its a nice change.... That I can agree on. |
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Post by odanobunaga on Feb 16, 2007 9:31:33 GMT -5
The thing is, is that the masterlock is a swinging version of the full nelson, and the goal for most martial artists is to rverse the moves before they are fully locked on. A move like that would be hard to power out of if it's applied with full force. But it's not like it would work the same in real life as it is on TV. I agree, I mean how the hell would have any time concentrating if you being swung around. I said this in another thread that the Masterlock shouldn't be considered a lame finisher because in real life very few people can get out of it. Read on my last post how to escape a Full Nelson. Swinging or not, it really doesn´t matter. It doesn´t break your focus at all ,since it´s a simple movement to escape. |
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Feb 16, 2007 9:38:43 GMT -5
If he wasn't feeling well, didn't get a good hold, of course.
But if he was pink as a pistol and had a good grip, the only way you'd break it is if you forced him backwards into a wall or something until he released the hold.
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Post by The OP on Feb 16, 2007 9:51:51 GMT -5
I agree, I mean how the hell would have any time concentrating if you being swung around. I said this in another thread that the Masterlock shouldn't be considered a lame finisher because in real life very few people can get out of it. Read on my last post how to escape a Full Nelson. Swinging or not, it really doesn´t matter. It doesn´t break your focus at all ,since it´s a simple movement to escape. I'd like to see you try. My friend who has a lot of kung fu experience and is stronger than me wondered if the swinging would make a difference, so I applied the hold and he tried to break it. The usual method for breaking a full nelson did not work for him. This is only one guy, I realize, but based on our respective size and experience level I'm sure he could have easily gotten out of my regular full nelson. |
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