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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 30, 2007 16:25:33 GMT -5
I was just thinking about the time that Marty Jannetty was sent through the glass window of The Barber Shop by Shawn Michaels, and began to wonder if this incident popularized the use of glass panes in wrestling (specifically, deathmatch wrestling). I cannot think of any earlier incidents in which wrestlers used glass to injure one another. To be frank, I almost don't WANT to; I hate seeing wrestlers become legitimately injured, and wrestling with glass is certainly not a good way to avoid injury. As entertaining as Necro Butcher's semifinal match against Nick Gage at CZW's Tournament of Death 3 was, I REALLY wish that glass had no place in wrestling - or, in the worst of scenarios, it'd be used as a mere prop (like when HBK sent Marty Jannetty flying through what was likely a 'fake' glass window). I don't see wrestlers cut up, I don't like to see wrestlers incur scars, and I especially don't like to see wrestlers end matches with chunks of their arm hanging loose (Necro  ). I can't help but wonder if HBK's legendary incident popularized the use of glass in professional wrestling. Any comments? I am aware that Japanese federations like IWA had Glass Deathmatches in the early-to-mid 1990s, but I would like to know if HBK & Jannetty somehow inspired that. |
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 30, 2007 16:40:19 GMT -5
I think Old Westerns with someone getting thrown through the window at a Saloon had more influence on it than HBK did.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 30, 2007 17:02:37 GMT -5
I think Old Westerns with someone getting thrown through the window at a Saloon had more influence on it than HBK did. Hmm... Perhaps. As someone who never cared for Western films, I never considered them as a potential influence. Perhaps Western films influenced HBK to toss Marty Jannetty through a window, which in turn inspired Japanese deathmatch promoters to incorporate it into actual matches, which unfortunately inspired the heavy use of glass in CZW matches in the early half of the new Millennium. |
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Post by paulonorcatto on Jan 30, 2007 17:41:22 GMT -5
nope, in the early 90's when mitsuhiro matsunaga left w*ing and joined fmw. he and atsushi onita were going to have the most dangerous match of all time.
the wonder crush deathmatch, which was an exploding glass cage match. and this would of been real glass. obviously the idea was too insane even for those two and the match was scrapped.
however people still wanted to see a glass deathmatch and it was iwa japan in october 94 who did the first glass deathmatch, with the headhunters taking on hiroshi ono and shoji nakamaki who took the first ever glass bumb.
but i think after a couple of years they realised that real glass was far too dangerous, so bjw started using light tubes instead, which in turn influenced iwa ms and czw to use the same.
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Post by wwerules60 on Jan 30, 2007 18:32:19 GMT -5
Yes, i had never heard of it before
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Post by The"threadicidal"bristolspapa on Jan 30, 2007 18:36:47 GMT -5
Yes, i had never heard of it before Glass? That's the new fangled burnt sand container right? I hope to get one soon. I'm tired of pooring beer on the floor and lapping it up. Plus my dog is faster at it than me. |
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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 30, 2007 18:47:45 GMT -5
Yes, i had never heard of it before Glass? That's the new fangled burnt sand container right? I hope to get one soon. I'm tired of pooring beer on the floor and lapping it up. Plus my dog is faster at it than me. Ha ha ha </sarcasm> I meant glass in the context of wrestling matches, smart guy. I didn't have enough space in the Subject heading to make that specification, and I omitted it from the body of my message, assuming that everyone would know what I was talking about anyway. |
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Post by The"threadicidal"bristolspapa on Jan 30, 2007 18:49:32 GMT -5
Glass? That's the new fangled burnt sand container right? I hope to get one soon. I'm tired of pooring beer on the floor and lapping it up. Plus my dog is faster at it than me. Ha ha ha </sarcasm> I meant glass in the context of wrestling matches, smart guy. I didn't have enough space in the Subject heading to make that specification, and I omitted it from the body of my message, assuming that everyone would know what I was talking about anyway. I know. Sometimes these things just have a life of their own. |
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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 30, 2007 19:00:26 GMT -5
Fair enough.
And yeah, this thread could definitely use the humour, as I find nothing funny about the risks and damage that wrestlers put their bodies through when they incorporate panes of glass into their matches.
In reference to what someone pointed out re: light tubes, I don't mind them as much as giant panes of glass, but I nevertheless wish they'd play a much more minimal role in matches. I wouldn't mind if wrestlers got a tube wacked over their chest / back once or twice, since the damage would be superficial and temporary at worst, but I hate the 'ultraviolent' style in which wrestlers take 200 tube shots per match and don't even sell the impact of those shots.
It's better to have a match with one tube shot and proper selling than a match with 200 tube shots and no selling.
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). I can't help but wonder if HBK's legendary incident popularized the use of glass in professional wrestling.
