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Post by KingPopper on Jan 9, 2007 10:51:14 GMT -5
Besides nobody has ever been bored with Orton, as a heel. Speak for yourself, Orton was awful during his endless fued with Taker last year. Changing shows is one of the only things that has kept him kinda fresh.
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Post by Ken Ivory on Jan 9, 2007 10:55:52 GMT -5
What kind of dusgusting despli...despicable....
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Post by hassanchop on Jan 9, 2007 10:57:32 GMT -5
Can we afford to have Orton change shows and feud with the Undertaker again?
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Post by Ken Ivory on Jan 9, 2007 11:00:25 GMT -5
Edge is oneofthebiggestandhighestratingwwechampionseverinthis...GAH!
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Post by Matt Rogers on Jan 9, 2007 11:01:33 GMT -5
Can we afford to have Orton change shows and feud with the Undertaker again? I DON'T KNOW!
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Post by carter 15 on Jan 9, 2007 11:10:41 GMT -5
I'm pissed now. There's not really any comparison between Luger and Edge. I think his closer to Cena, but cena "made it"....You know, because of the whole next hogan superman push thing?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 9, 2007 11:23:21 GMT -5
I'm pissed now. There's not really any comparison between Luger and Edge. I think his closer to Cena, but cena "made it"....You know, because of the whole next hogan superman push thing? Luger got that push from the WWE too, except people shit all over him when they tried it.
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Post by hassanchop on Jan 9, 2007 11:30:09 GMT -5
I'm pissed now. There's not really any comparison between Luger and Edge. I think his closer to Cena, but cena "made it"....You know, because of the whole next hogan superman push thing? Luger got that push from the WWE too, except people crap all over him when they tried it. To Vince, he was merely an afterthought, and he got all sour grapes and played the victim when Luger left.
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Post by Loki on Jan 9, 2007 11:44:12 GMT -5
I don't get this...
Edge's run with Christian alone is better than Luger's whole career, under every possible aspect.
The fact is, Edge's still getting a lot of bad heat for the Hardy incident... But if you look at his heel run (2004-present) without prejudices, you'll have to admit he's been one of the best characters on RAW, second to Triple H (and maybe HBK) only.
Hell, when he won the belt from Cena, the crowd was extatic, and in a matter of weeks, they were massively pro-Cena again... He did what Jericho and Angle failed to do: bring the crowd back on Cena's side... Not exactly an easy task to accomplish, especially if he was so "meh"...
While his matches non involving ladders, tables, chairs and cages, aren't 5 stars classics, he can hold his own against every type of opponent... He ain't no Bret Hart, but Luger was horrible to watch anyway!
So, the whole comparison is pretty off-target. But hey, I'm a fan of Edge, so I'm probably a bit biased...
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Post by royboy8 on Jan 9, 2007 16:35:20 GMT -5
Please go away. Thats my thought
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Post by Cactus Jack on Jan 9, 2007 16:51:19 GMT -5
Edge > Luger
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Post by balmudo on Jan 9, 2007 17:35:23 GMT -5
Besides nobody has ever been bored with Orton, as a heel. Oh, you're being sarcastic and whacky! That changes everything!
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 9, 2007 17:49:34 GMT -5
All I remember about Luger is riding a bus, and losing, and sorta winning a rumble, and then losing, then going to wcw and losing some more. I know it's not related, but in a Snitsky voice "IT WASN'T HIS FAULT" that McMahon didn't know how to book the guy, and "IT ALSO WASN'T HIS FAULT" that Bischoff never liked him, and just made him lose his titles within a week in controversial finishes. AND "IT WASN'T HIS FAULT" that Billy Whatshisname didn't pay him.
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Post by manx21 on Jan 9, 2007 17:52:19 GMT -5
edge is much better than luger. that is all
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Post by ghettooverlord on Jan 9, 2007 18:14:25 GMT -5
Edge has his ladder matches with Eddie and Flair, the Benoit series, his match with HBK at RR2005, and all his promos after turning heel at Taboo Tuesday were pretty damn good. He tore his own hair out. The guy is far from average. Wow. Good matches with Eddie, Flair, and Benoit? Like I said he niether ruins or makes good wrestling. How many epics has he had with Cena? Luger had good matches with Flair and Steamboat. Let's praise his wrestling talent. I remember Cena and Edge having three very good matches.
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Post by -Lithium- on Jan 9, 2007 18:15:33 GMT -5
Edge is the same way. He pretty much niether make's good or bad wrestling. He's just there, he's a better wrestler than luger, but contributes nothing special really. Just try thinking of a classic promo or match Edge did as a singles star. Yeah right, Edge is 1000x times the overall wrestler Luger was. Luger had a million dollar push and a million dollar look and he couldnt make it work. Early 06 they tried to cut Edges legs off when they jobbed him to Cena three weeks later but even THAT couldnt stop Edge, and he became the MVP of RAW, no question... Now... Classic Promo: The one he did the week after Hardy returned, thats the kinda emotion and intensity that shoulda been in Hardys promo. Classic Match: Flair/Edge TLC, Edge/Foley Wrestlemania, Edge/Cena TLC, Edge/Cena/Triple H at Backlash, and those are all from this year. Sorry, but it looks like your wrong... ;D
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Jan 9, 2007 18:18:14 GMT -5
There are a lot of people in WWE who are like Lex Luger: John Cena, Randy Orton, Bobby Lashley, Batista, Chris Masters. But, Edge isn't one of them. He came in with a cool silent, mysterious gimmick. Then, he joined the Brood. Then, he and Christian becames wacky heels and formed one of the greatest tag teams of all time. He had a good babyface run from the summer of 2001 to February 2003, when he broke his neck. Then, he came back as a good face and then changed into a stressed out, crazed heel. Then, the whole Lita affair came out, which may or not have been a work, and he became more hated. Edge then won the WWE Title and got the crowd to boo John Cena. Now, he's in an okay feud with D-X. Plus, he has had great matches with the Hardy Boyz, the Dudley Boyz, Matt Hardy, Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels, Rob Van Dam, Chris Benoit, Kane, Kurt Angle, Christian, John Cena, Randy Orton, Mic Foley, etc. While most of those matches were stipulation matches like TLC, Hardcore, Last Man Standing, etc., he has also put on some very good regular matches. And, he has done some very good promos.
As for Lex Luger, he had a good run in NWA/WCW. Then, it went all downhill once he joined the WWF. He got stuck with those horrible Narcissist and All-American Boy gimmicks. He was a co-winner of the Royal Rumble and almost got the WWF Title if he hadn't blabbed that he would win it at WM X. Then, he left and went back to WCW, where he jobbed to the nWo a lot, had short title reigns, and was stuck in bad storylines. Today, he is mainly known for that "I DON'T KNOOOOW!!!!" promo. And, he has had some run-ins with the law, especially after Miss Elizabeth's death.
When you look at Edge and Lex Luger side-by-side, there's no real comparison. Lex Luger was okay, but Edge is so much better.
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Post by Will Has 'Til Five, Ref on Jan 9, 2007 18:53:21 GMT -5
Edge: What kind of disgusting, dispic-*sigh*, lack of respect on the part of Suicide What's-His-Name to compare me with Lex Luthor, Senator Dick Luger, I forgot his name, what's he called again? Lex Luger?!?! I'M PISSED NOW!
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 9, 2007 20:03:53 GMT -5
The comparison seems pretty random.
And Luger won't be remembered for that dumb promo. I daresay no one not 'round here is even aware of it.
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Post by carter 15 on Jan 11, 2007 8:40:30 GMT -5
I'm pissed now. There's not really any comparison between Luger and Edge. I think his closer to Cena, but cena "made it"....You know, because of the whole next hogan superman push thing? Luger got that push from the WWE too, except people crap all over him when they tried it. Thats what i ment, they're closer to being the same then Luger and Edge because they got the same kinda've push (i.e..The Hogan Push) It's just that Cenas worked more then Lugers (to an extent).
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