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Post by MoleMan on Jan 9, 2007 10:25:00 GMT -5
This ignore IDK! for a moment
I know people will bash me for this, but Edge is pretty much the modern day Luger. Luger wasn't piss poor back in his prime. He was pretty much average entertainment wise. He never made good wrestling, and he never made bad wrestling(unless given an awful gimmick), he was just there. Plus whenever Luger was Gone nobody cared. He was out of sight out of mind. The only reason he's remembered is his IDK! promo.
Edge is the same way. He pretty much niether make's good or bad wrestling. He's just there, he's a better wrestler than luger, but contributes nothing special really. Just try thinking of a classic promo or match Edge did as a singles star. I can think of only the live sex show(which any remotely good looking wrestler coulda pulled off) and his Foley match(anyone can have a good hardcore match with Foley). I can't think of anything stand out about Edge, and he's pretty much outta sight outta mind IMO.
Pretty much I think Luger(in his prime) and edge are good for is standing in as part of an angle when no one else is available. They don't ruin it, but they don't make it better.
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Post by EJS on Jan 9, 2007 10:27:59 GMT -5
I think Orton fits this bill far better.
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Post by hassanchop on Jan 9, 2007 10:28:15 GMT -5
Edge never had a tour bus. And never posed in mirrors. I'd say Masters is, in terms of size, gimmick, and the way he is getting pushed.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 9, 2007 10:29:21 GMT -5
Luger was actually a fairly good wrestler before he went to the WBF and roided it up.
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Post by THE REDNECK BADASS on Jan 9, 2007 10:30:04 GMT -5
More like Randy Orton how dare you call Edge the modern day Lex Luger that is just stupid lol
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Post by hassanchop on Jan 9, 2007 10:30:58 GMT -5
Maybe you should RIP HIM APART!
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Post by Matt Rogers on Jan 9, 2007 10:31:04 GMT -5
Edge has his ladder matches with Eddie and Flair, the Benoit series, his match with HBK at RR2005, and all his promos after turning heel at Taboo Tuesday were pretty damn good. He tore his own hair out. The guy is far from average.
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Post by MoleMan on Jan 9, 2007 10:31:50 GMT -5
I think Orton fits this bill far better. regardless Orton's a far better heel than both Luger and Edge. He talks better, he's actually a better worker than people give him credit for. He make's a piss poor face, but good heel. He knows that restholds and stomps annoy fans. He also has rumors spread anout him being a deviant and total jerk to make people hate him. Course, Edge is a real life deviant and nobody cares. |
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Post by MoleMan on Jan 9, 2007 10:33:17 GMT -5
Edge has his ladder matches with Eddie and Flair, the Benoit series, his match with HBK at RR2005, and all his promos after turning heel at Taboo Tuesday were pretty damn good. He tore his own hair out. The guy is far from average. Wow. Good matches with Eddie, Flair, and Benoit? Like I said he niether ruins or makes good wrestling. How many epics has he had with Cena? Luger had good matches with Flair and Steamboat. Let's praise his wrestling talent. |
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 9, 2007 10:33:43 GMT -5
Luger was a himbo known only for having a great body.
Edge is a good wrestler with no ass who banged his friend's woman.
I also think that he's far better on the mic than Luger.
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Post by Matt Rogers on Jan 9, 2007 10:34:33 GMT -5
Edge has his ladder matches with Eddie and Flair, the Benoit series, his match with HBK at RR2005, and all his promos after turning heel at Taboo Tuesday were pretty damn good. He tore his own hair out. The guy is far from average. Wow. Good matches with Eddie, Flair, and Benoit? Like I said he niether ruins or makes good wrestling. How many epics has he had with Cena? Edge has had more good matches with Cena than anyone has, actually. Their match at Tribute to the Troops was fine. And the one after the Battle Royal was very enjoyable. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 9, 2007 10:35:12 GMT -5
I think Orton fits this bill far better. regardless Orton's a far better heel than both Luger and Edge. He talks better, he's actually a better worker than people give him credit for. He make's a piss poor face, but good heel. He knows that restholds and stomps annoy fans. He also has rumors spread anout him being a deviant and total jerk to make people hate him. Course, Edge is a real life deviant and nobody cares. I don't think those were rumors, he went to some counseling as I recall, postWM22 and even talked about it an interview either with WWE magazine or some other publication, he was a jerk and a deviant. |
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Post by MoleMan on Jan 9, 2007 10:35:36 GMT -5
Luger was a himbo known only for having a great body. Edge is a good wrestler with no ass who banged his friend's woman. I also think that he's far better on the mic than Luger. Personally he does generic stuff he might as well say, "I'm a jerk and I treat people like crap!!!!!!" |
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Post by Ratings on Jan 9, 2007 10:35:40 GMT -5
Edge is awesome. Straight simple.
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Post by THE REDNECK BADASS on Jan 9, 2007 10:35:52 GMT -5
Also Edge is not affraid to blade which Luger is because I read in the Stone Cold book that when Austin and Dustin Rhodes done a blade job at like at a house show and when they came back to the lockerroom Luger freaked out
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Post by MoleMan on Jan 9, 2007 10:36:26 GMT -5
regardless Orton's a far better heel than both Luger and Edge. He talks better, he's actually a better worker than people give him credit for. He make's a piss poor face, but good heel. He knows that restholds and stomps annoy fans. He also has rumors spread anout him being a deviant and total jerk to make people hate him. Course, Edge is a real life deviant and nobody cares. I don't think those were rumors, he went to some counseling as I recall, postWM22 and even talked about it an interview either with WWE magazine or some other publication, he was a jerk and a deviant. I've heard it was all a work. Besides nobody has ever been bored with Orton, as a heel. |
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Post by MoleMan on Jan 9, 2007 10:39:07 GMT -5
Also Edge is not affraid to blade which Luger is because I read in the Stone Cold book that when Austin and Dustin Rhodes done a blade job at like at a house show and when they came back to the lockerroom Luger freaked out I'm not saying Edge has the same style as Luger. I'm saying he and Luger(of the past) do not wrong or right. They're mediocre and an average guy could do the same with the gimmick and air time. He doesn't suck, but he's not world class. |
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Post by KingPopper on Jan 9, 2007 10:46:18 GMT -5
Luger's last years was made people forget about him, thats how WCW was booked, remember anything Bret Hart did in WCW? Not really. WCW never had major storylines, and just based the company on huge mainevents on free tv. But after while all the maineventers and the mainevents never went anywhere, and were pretty much based on who wasn't sitting home at the time.
Edge on the other hand has a had a great run in WWE for almost ten years. He came in with the awesome silent charater, and then joined his brother as part of the brood, of course him and christian became one of the best tagteams in wwe history, and the TLC matches will live on forever. The days of E&C ran their course and Edge made the better babyface at the time, he will always be remembered as the guy that turned Kurt Angle bald. Then he got injured, came back and had one hell of a heel turn thanks to Lita and Matt Hardy, won the world title off Cena, and had a better fued with Cena that only Jericho could come close to.
Edge has had a great run, always keeping his charater fresh, he hasnt had a huge list of big matches, but to put him and Luger in the same boat is a load of crap. All I remember about Luger is riding a bus, and losing, and sorta winning a rumble, and then losing, then going to wcw and losing some more.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 9, 2007 10:47:51 GMT -5
I always liked Luger, I haven't really studied his matches, and I don't care if he put on a clinic every time he stepped into the ring. He had exciting feuds with Flair and the Horsemen, and definetly had the look and pretty good charisma too.
Edge I liked when he was doing comedy with Christian and Foley. Lot of great charisma, and people will be talking about his ladder matches for a long time to come. I can't stand him as a heel though, and I don't mean that in a good way-he's not a heel I love to hate, I just hate him.
So for me, I don't think of Edge as anyone but himself, Luger on the other hand, had more things going for him IMO.
P.S. and this may have something to do with it, but when I think of Lex Luger, I think almost exclusively of his early NWA/WCW run-NOT anything of his WWF/WBF run-not dismissing it entirely, I just don't think about it much.
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Post by hassanchop on Jan 9, 2007 10:50:25 GMT -5
All I remember about Luger is riding a bus, and losing, and sorta winning a rumble, and then losing, then going to wcw and losing some more. I know it's not related, but in a Snitsky voice "IT WASN'T HIS FAULT" that McMahon didn't know how to book the guy, and "IT ALSO WASN'T HIS FAULT" that Bischoff never liked him, and just made him lose his titles within a week in controversial finishes. |
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