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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 10, 2007 0:54:42 GMT -5
I thought Triple H would be too big to do MMA. He's kinda slow and most of what he does don't seem real hard hitting to me. Plus, with his previous quad tear, he wasn't a prime candidate anyway. However, both are 2 horses of a different color(Mickie & Test ;D)
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 10, 2007 1:02:02 GMT -5
Why don't we put it this way, Dan Severn was very successful in mixed martial arts, but he didn't have the personality or charisma to make it into professional wrestling. Both art forms require different strengths and skills. Wrestlers could likely say the same thing for most MMA fighters not being able to be very successful in professional wrestling. that's all good, but charisma and personality are not needed in mma. a plus? sure. but not needed. wrestling training trains you to shoot. you learn amateur skills as well. you learn to legit brawl. learning to bump and sell is only the beginning. you have to be able to fight, because sometimes guys don't wanna do buisness, or hell, they just might not like you, and you have to be able to defend yourself. with that said, there are definitely those who would fare better in mma than others. brian kendrick for example. doesn't stand a chance. triple h i think would be ok however. it all depends on how you came up.
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NIXON
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Post by NIXON on Jan 10, 2007 1:10:25 GMT -5
The only part of this that annoys me is the part about HHH not being an athlete. Ortiz fights 2 or 3 times a year. HHH is out there every friggen night. I recall a time not so long ago when Kurt Angle was considering an MMA career because it would be easier on him physically than a full time wrestling career. Pre Determined or not, there is no denying that wrestlers are athletes.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 10, 2007 1:12:30 GMT -5
yeah, wrestlers don't fight and then rest for 6 months. they take ass kickings every night, and get up to do it again. they really are the toughest athletes in the world.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jan 10, 2007 1:12:52 GMT -5
I thought Triple H would be too big to do MMA. He's kinda slow and most of what he does don't seem real hard hitting to me. Plus, with his previous quad tear, he wasn't a prime candidate anyway. However, both are 2 horses of a different color(Mickie & Test ;D) Ahh c'mon why go there?
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Post by Lord Rahl on Jan 10, 2007 1:27:09 GMT -5
I think it'd be cool to see Tito pull a Shamrock and do the wrestling thing. He has the charisma (I think) and the mic skills. Could be intersting.
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Post by B.A. on Jan 10, 2007 1:49:47 GMT -5
hey tito? how is chuck liddell doing?
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Post by ronsimmons on Jan 10, 2007 2:13:11 GMT -5
And as I said elsewhere that this was posted, pro wrestlers going in to UFC would get destroyed. For the most part anyway. It's true.
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 10, 2007 2:18:14 GMT -5
"tito Ortiz was recently asked in Steppin’ Out Magazine about how a wrestler like Triple H would fare in UFC. Ortiz answered, "I think he would be horrible. He's too stiff and his cardio fitness is horrible. A guy like that isn't an athlete. We're running, lifting, and training every day, not for looks or to show off our bodies, but to fight and last five rounds at full strength". "
Witouht proper training and nice cardio, Tito is right. A wrestler is no better than your average punk into MMA territory, but hey, makes sense right? THese guys dedicate their live for this after all.
An people, remenber, these guys are all blackbelts in Jiu Jitsu. If you don´t know how to properly grond work, I don´t care who you are, you are going to tap out.
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Post by BHB on Jan 10, 2007 2:20:14 GMT -5
Ortiz answered, "I think he would be horrible. He's too stiff and his cardio fitness is horrible. A guy like that isn't an athlete. We're running, lifting, and training every day, not for looks or to show off our bodies, but to fight and last five rounds at full strength". I'd say this is an unfair critique on wrestlers in general but if its just about Triple H, i'd say its pretty accurate considering his phoned in performances/concentration on physique in the last few years.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 10, 2007 2:22:23 GMT -5
From www.lordsofpain.netTito Ortiz was recently asked in Steppin’ Out Magazine about how a wrestler like Triple H would fare in UFC. Ortiz answered, "I think he would be horrible. He's too stiff and his cardio fitness is horrible. A guy like that isn't an athlete. We're running, lifting, and training every day, not for looks or to show off our bodies, but to fight and last five rounds at full strength". There's always the question of context... hard to take what a person means in print... I take this like whenever I heard the word "shoot" these days... I don't necessarily think he's ripping on HHH in particular... i mean, in general he's pretty much right... HHH is a huge guy but you know, no known shoot fight experience... like the others pointed out, apples and oranges... And yeah I agree with the others who say that they can't really get behind mma fighters just because they talk so much shit... it may be true, but still no reason to be cocky... in fact, the fact I know they can kick my ass makes them even more annoying...
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 10, 2007 2:24:53 GMT -5
Rickson Gracie was humble, till he beated the crap of everbody ehehehe...But anyway, much of his gibberdish make sense(even if in an arrogant tone.)
I always loved Ken Shamrock promos, outside and inside of a MMA ring. SOmetimes he says crap, but sometimes he says some nice stuff. If I do recall, when he lost to Chuck Lindell he aknlogedeg the win for the guy, and even said that he was the future, or something.
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Post by gabou142 on Jan 10, 2007 2:25:32 GMT -5
mmm, 2006 HHH would get his ass kick by Tito, that's for sure, the guy is starting to show his age, even his body is not as ripped as it used to be!! 2000 Triple H on the other hand could have given Tito a run for his money..yes Tito may be faster, but HHH sure looked like a hard hitting motherf***er!
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 10, 2007 2:29:19 GMT -5
So he could trow some punches. And? In MMA, punchs and muscles can´t get you anywhere...At least not agains´t Tito. Or Ken Shamrock, or...Er...Every single "main eventer". Since the matches almost always go to the floor, and when it hits the mat, if Trips doesn´t have a grasp in Jiu Jitsu, he would be easily out-techinqued.
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Post by Scott on Jan 10, 2007 2:38:25 GMT -5
Triple H would probably have said the same thing the other way. Not every athlete yearns to be a MMA fighter, but MMA fighters think everyone does because for every fighter serious about competing, you get the misguided guys wanting to be macho or to prove they're tough by overcompensating.
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Post by MadLinus on Jan 10, 2007 2:51:52 GMT -5
hey tito? how is chuck liddell doing? Seriously! I watched that fight on PPV and was even cheering for Tito to pull off the upset. But the reality of the fact was that Tito spent the whole fight backing away from Liddell like a little bitch. He really should worry about himself and his inability to form an offense against the opponent before calling someone else on their lack of abilities. Outside of the UFC ring, I think HHH could whoop some Ortiz ass!
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jan 10, 2007 3:33:59 GMT -5
Some of these MMA guys make me laugh... so Tito Ortiz could beat Lennox Lewis within a round under UFC rules? Great, good for him. How about with the gloves, in a boxing ring, under the Marquis of Queensbury rules? Let me tell you, Tito Ortiz would be out well within a round. Why do they seem to think that MMA is the only show in town?
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Jan 10, 2007 3:37:58 GMT -5
Yeah really.
I know that some wrestlers couldn't beat MMA guys. But I would love for them to face real wrestlers and see how cocky they are afterwords.
Afterall, Muhammad Ali had a hard time with a wrestler.
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Post by BigBadZ on Jan 10, 2007 3:42:02 GMT -5
but still no reason to be cocky... in fact, the fact I know they can kick my ass makes them even more annoying... I also hate how they run their mouths. Going back to the apples and oranges statement, you might as well say "The New York Mets wouldn't last a quarter against New York Giants" or vice versa. Had HHH trained the majority of his life to be an MMA fighter, then ya go ahead and call him out or something. The fact of the matter is HHH is no jui jitsu fighter so no need to talk trash. Worry about getting your title back from Lidell.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 10, 2007 3:44:57 GMT -5
There's only a few select wrestlers who could even be passable in UFC, and obviously, Hunter wouldn't be one of 'em. Neither would Kurt Angle. Seriously I must see Rampage shut Tito's mouth. *Rampage is a former Pro wrestler I loved it when Chuck just destroyed Tito. Tito can take a beating.
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