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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 10, 2007 10:33:13 GMT -5
I'd mark out I know, but do you think you'd wanna see him again, and if so, what would be a good way to bring him back?
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 10, 2007 10:35:20 GMT -5
The best way to bring him back would've been vs Carlito at that "fans pick the face of Foley" match at Taboo Tuesday. I dont see why Mankind won, Dude Love was the obvious choice as he is FAR "cooler" than carlito.
I voted an optomistic yes just because I LOVE the character but I'm sure we'll never see it again.
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Post by Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture on Jan 10, 2007 10:36:12 GMT -5
Agreed. Foley has an intense hatred for Dude Love, so I doub't we'll ever see him again.
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Post by Dynamic Dee on Jan 10, 2007 10:42:17 GMT -5
I loved when Dude went heel and became Mr. McMahon's henchman. The Dude Love/Stone Cold feud lead to some great matches. Especially the Over the Edge 98 main event.
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Post by sthjerzeejohn on Jan 10, 2007 11:18:59 GMT -5
No thanks, never got into Dude Love.
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Jan 10, 2007 11:22:30 GMT -5
I loved when Dude went heel and became Mr. McMahon's henchman. The Dude Love/Stone Cold feud lead to some great matches. Especially the Over the Edge 98 main event. I've watched that event and specifically that match soooo many times. Great main event. I'd love for the Dude to come back, but like others have said Mick hates Dude Love so I doubt its gonna happen
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Post by Gopher Mod on Jan 10, 2007 11:22:36 GMT -5
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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 10, 2007 11:22:51 GMT -5
I musta missed it in one of his books, but I know he was excited when Vince wanted to bring in Dude Love, but when did it go wrong and what turned Mick against it?
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Post by JoshWoodrumGreaterThanHBK on Jan 10, 2007 12:10:55 GMT -5
Good question, why does Mick hate Dude Love?
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 10, 2007 12:15:03 GMT -5
I always heard that Dude Love was Mick's fantasy wrestling character when he was a kid.
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Post by MGH on Jan 10, 2007 12:15:34 GMT -5
Yeah!
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Post by hollywood on Jan 10, 2007 12:28:56 GMT -5
I musta missed it in one of his books, but I know he was excited when Vince wanted to bring in Dude Love, but when did it go wrong and what turned Mick against it? Good question, why does Mick hate Dude Love? I always heard that Dude Love was Mick's fantasy wrestling character when he was a kid. I quoted these cuz I'm going to try to answer all of them. In Mick's first autobiography, 'Have a Nice Day,' he said Dude Love was a fantasy creation he came up with for a short film he and his buddies made while still in college about a pro wrestler in the WWF. Mick played the Dude, and some friends played other wrestlers and commentators like "The Grand Lizard." (it's a reference to something, but I don't recall it) The whole thing ended with the Dude defending his world title in a backyard match (before they became "popular" so to speak) against a guy named Big Dig Zuck, who used wrestling's most devestating finisher "SODOMY." Dude missed the famous dive off the roof, and Dig Zuck got the pin, then doubled him over and sodomized him. Fast forward to the late 90s. Mick mentioned the Dude and allowed the E to use some of the footage (but only very little) during his now famous interview with Jim Ross. And because of the popularity of the character--people were actually bringing Dude Love signs to shows, so Mick says--Vince wanted to bring the Dude in fulltime. The reason Mick never liked the character was because it became so goofy and so cheesy that, despite it's brilliant humor, he felt like a cheap imitation of himself. He was "the Hardcore Legend" and "King of the Deathmatch," but he was dancing around in sagging tights and delivering blatantly stupid finishers like "Sweet Chin Music." He never truly HATED the character, he just felt it kinda cheapened him. He mentions similar reservations for what Mankind became in later years in his second book, 'Foley Is Good,' talking about how he got really out of shape and practically became a "human Muppet." That's part of why he wanted to end is fulltime career as Cactus Jack, by going back to the persona that he made a name for himself with. (I hope that was helpful, and not too longwinded.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 10, 2007 12:34:16 GMT -5
I musta missed it in one of his books, but I know he was excited when Vince wanted to bring in Dude Love, but when did it go wrong and what turned Mick against it? I always heard that Dude Love was Mick's fantasy wrestling character when he was a kid. I quoted these cuz I'm going to try to answer all of them. In Mick's first autobiography, 'Have a Nice Day,' he said Dude Love was a fantasy creation he came up with for a short film he and his buddies made while still in college about a pro wrestler in the WWF. Mick played the Dude, and some friends played other wrestlers and commentators like "The Grand Lizard." (it's a reference to something, but I don't recall it) The whole thing ended with the Dude defending his world title in a backyard match (before they became "popular" so to speak) against a guy named Big Dig Zuck, who used wrestling's most devestating finisher "SODOMY." Dude missed the famous dive off the roof, and Dig Zuck got the pin, then doubled him over and sodomized him. Fast forward to the late 90s. Mick mentioned the Dude and allowed the E to use some of the footage (but only very little) during his now famous interview with Jim Ross. And because of the popularity of the character--people were actually bringing Dude Love signs to shows, so Mick says--Vince wanted to bring the Dude in fulltime. The reason Mick never liked the character was because it became so goofy and so cheesy that, despite it's brilliant humor, he felt like a cheap imitation of himself. He was "the Hardcore Legend" and "King of the Deathmatch," but he was dancing around in sagging tights and delivering blatantly stupid finishers like "Sweet Chin Music." He never truly HATED the character, he just felt it kinda cheapened him. He mentions similar reservations for what Mankind became in later years in his second book, 'Foley Is Good,' talking about how he got really out of shape and practically became a "human Muppet." That's part of why he wanted to end is fulltime career as Cactus Jack, by going back to the persona that he made a name for himself with. (I hope that was helpful, and not too longwinded. Thanks, that did help, and yes Mankind did become aparody, what really sucks to me is after those really great promos he did during his last run, about how he had become a teddy bear, and he was ready to get back to being Cactus Jack and hardcore, he was still pulling out Mr. Socko, and generally doing the same stuff he did before
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Post by Dynamic Dee on Jan 10, 2007 12:39:45 GMT -5
I agree with the "human muppet" thing. His Mankind character became way too goofy in 99. I can see that also with Dude Love as a face back in 1997. It wasn't the crazy, hardcore Mick that we were used to. It worked better when he went heel and became McMahon's lackey.
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Post by hollywood on Jan 10, 2007 12:43:54 GMT -5
Thanks, that did help, and yes Mankind did become aparody, what really sucks to me is after those really great promos he did during his last run, about how he had become a teddy bear, and he was ready to get back to being Cactus Jack and hardcore, he was still pulling out Mr. Socko, and generally doing the same stuff he did before In his defense, that old saying "if it's not broke, don't fix it" kinda applies here. One thing he said was that Socko made a bad match good and a good match great. Whenever the crowd seemed to be dying, he could just pull out the sock, and they'd go crazy again. It was a pretty big asset to have, and it'd be tough to just refuse to ever use it again.
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Post by BHB on Jan 10, 2007 13:57:21 GMT -5
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Jan 10, 2007 14:02:21 GMT -5
People love The Dude.
Dude Love is no more goofy than what Mankind had become.
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